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Trump lies about everything, but for today it is Puerto Rico aid and Omar
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Jul 18, 2019 22:38:09   #
rumitoid
 
TRUMP quotes Omar as saying: "You don't say 'America' with this intensity. You say 'al-Qaida,' it makes you proud. Al-Qaida makes you proud. You don't speak that way about America."

THE FACTS: This is a wholly distorted account of what the Minnesota Democrat said. She did not voice p***e in the terrorist group.

Trump is referring to an interview Omar gave in 2013. In it, she talked about studying terrorism history or theory under a professor who dramatically pronounced the names of terrorist groups, as if to emphasize their evil nature.

"The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said 'al-Qaida,' he sort of like — his shoulders went up" and he used a menacing, intense tone, she said. Her point was that the professor was subtly rousing suspicions of Muslims with his theatrical presentation, while pronouncing "America" without the intensity he afforded the names of terrorist groups.

At no point did she say "al-Qaida" should be uttered with intensity or p***e and that "America" shouldn't.



Donald Trump’s hostility to the island of Puerto Rico may have helped stall two congressional bills that would have allocated more aid for the hurricane-devastated island. On Monday, the Senate failed to pass either a Republican bill that included $600 million in food aid to Puerto Rico, or a $14.3 billion bill that wrapped additional assistance for the island into unrelated legislation. Puerto Rico’s governor, Ricardo Rosselló, told Reuters that though the territory needed the food aid, the amount allocated in the Republican bill still fell short of the island’s actual needs.

The discrepancy between Puerto Rico’s needs and what the U.S. government is willing to provide isn’t a recent development, but it has widened under Trump. The Washington Post reported in March that Trump seems to have a vendetta against the island and its elected officials, who criticized the administration’s slow response to Hurricane Maria. The president is willing to provide nothing beyond some further food assistance to Puerto Rico, and in a series of tweets sent on Monday evening and Tuesday morning, Trump reiterated that position:

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Jul 18, 2019 22:46:16   #
Iliamna1
 
Garbage! We've sent 91 BILLIONS dollars to Puerto Rico for hurricane relief which comes to over $27,000 per man, woman and child, the vast proportion of which was unaccounted for, or wasted on food and medications left in warehouses to rot, thanks to the grossly corrupt government down there. Compare that to what was sent to Texas and Florida. He's not hostile to the Puerto Ricans: he's hostile to the mismanagement of relief efforts!

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Jul 18, 2019 23:09:52   #
markc Loc: Tennessee
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Garbage! We've sent 91 BILLIONS dollars to Puerto Rico for hurricane relief which comes to over $27,000 per man, woman and child, the vast proportion of which was unaccounted for, or wasted on food and medications left in warehouses to rot, thanks to the grossly corrupt government down there. Compare that to what was sent to Texas and Florida. He's not hostile to the Puerto Ricans: he's hostile to the mismanagement of relief efforts!


Not true.
“So far, the nine projects the Trump administration has OK'd total about $13.3 million, according to Puerto Rico's Central Office for Recovery, Reconstruction, and Resilience.”
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1758820001

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Jul 18, 2019 23:10:36   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
rumitoid wrote:
TRUMP quotes Omar as saying: "You don't say 'America' with this intensity. You say 'al-Qaida,' it makes you proud. Al-Qaida makes you proud. You don't speak that way about America."

THE FACTS: This is a wholly distorted account of what the Minnesota Democrat said. She did not voice p***e in the terrorist group.

Trump is referring to an interview Omar gave in 2013. In it, she talked about studying terrorism history or theory under a professor who dramatically pronounced the names of terrorist groups, as if to emphasize their evil nature.

"The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said 'al-Qaida,' he sort of like — his shoulders went up" and he used a menacing, intense tone, she said. Her point was that the professor was subtly rousing suspicions of Muslims with his theatrical presentation, while pronouncing "America" without the intensity he afforded the names of terrorist groups.

At no point did she say "al-Qaida" should be uttered with intensity or p***e and that "America" shouldn't.



Donald Trump’s hostility to the island of Puerto Rico may have helped stall two congressional bills that would have allocated more aid for the hurricane-devastated island. On Monday, the Senate failed to pass either a Republican bill that included $600 million in food aid to Puerto Rico, or a $14.3 billion bill that wrapped additional assistance for the island into unrelated legislation. Puerto Rico’s governor, Ricardo Rosselló, told Reuters that though the territory needed the food aid, the amount allocated in the Republican bill still fell short of the island’s actual needs.

The discrepancy between Puerto Rico’s needs and what the U.S. government is willing to provide isn’t a recent development, but it has widened under Trump. The Washington Post reported in March that Trump seems to have a vendetta against the island and its elected officials, who criticized the administration’s slow response to Hurricane Maria. The president is willing to provide nothing beyond some further food assistance to Puerto Rico, and in a series of tweets sent on Monday evening and Tuesday morning, Trump reiterated that position:
TRUMP quotes Omar as saying: "You don't say '... (show quote)


We have spent far more on Puerto Rico than the treasury has received. It's along the line of Russia propping-up Cuba. Why don't they declare their independence and go it alone?

Besides, I thought you lefties wanted to end deficits. What benefits are you socialist willing to cut to pay for it? Healthcare, Education, etc.? How about Foreign Aide?

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Jul 18, 2019 23:11:38   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Garbage! We've sent 91 BILLIONS dollars to Puerto Rico for hurricane relief which comes to over $27,000 per man, woman and child, the vast proportion of which was unaccounted for, or wasted on food and medications left in warehouses to rot, thanks to the grossly corrupt government down there. Compare that to what was sent to Texas and Florida. He's not hostile to the Puerto Ricans: he's hostile to the mismanagement of relief efforts!


Thank you!!!!!.....

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Jul 18, 2019 23:14:42   #
rumitoid
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Garbage! We've sent 91 BILLIONS dollars to Puerto Rico for hurricane relief which comes to over $27,000 per man, woman and child, the vast proportion of which was unaccounted for, or wasted on food and medications left in warehouses to rot, thanks to the grossly corrupt government down there. Compare that to what was sent to Texas and Florida. He's not hostile to the Puerto Ricans: he's hostile to the mismanagement of relief efforts!


No, we did not send 91 billion. Congress has allocated $42.5 billion to disaster relief for Puerto Rico, according to federal data, but the island had received less than $14 billion through May. Wake up to that liar Trump.The president says it is a corrupt nation out of h**e for the governor's criticism.

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Jul 18, 2019 23:17:00   #
rumitoid
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Garbage! We've sent 91 BILLIONS dollars to Puerto Rico for hurricane relief which comes to over $27,000 per man, woman and child, the vast proportion of which was unaccounted for, or wasted on food and medications left in warehouses to rot, thanks to the grossly corrupt government down there. Compare that to what was sent to Texas and Florida. He's not hostile to the Puerto Ricans: he's hostile to the mismanagement of relief efforts!


We did not! That is total BS! Congress approved 42.5 billion. ye they by May have received less that that amount.

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Jul 18, 2019 23:18:04   #
rumitoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
We have spent far more on Puerto Rico than the treasury has received. It's along the line of Russia propping-up Cuba. Why don't they declare their independence and go it alone?


Wow what?

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Jul 18, 2019 23:19:56   #
rumitoid
 
proud republican wrote:
Thank you!!!!!.....
Thank you!!!!!..... img src="https://static.onepo... (show quote)


Total lie, pr. Start to learn how to probe the internet. Your world will unfortunately expand.

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Jul 18, 2019 23:21:30   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
rumitoid wrote:
We did not! That is total BS! Congress approved 42.5 billion. ye they by May have received less that that amount.


It doesn't matter how often you say it?

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Jul 18, 2019 23:25:21   #
rumitoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
It doesn't matter how often you say it?


hahahaha, obviously.

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Jul 18, 2019 23:32:30   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
rumitoid wrote:
Wow what?


1999 GDP was $38 Billion, 2003 GDP $47.4 Billion.
Revenue 2002: $10.5 Billion;
Taxes: 62.6%

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Jul 18, 2019 23:39:45   #
rumitoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
1999 GDP was $38 Billion, 2003 GDP $47.4 Billion.
Revenue 2002: $10.5 Billion;
Taxes: 62.6%


Okay. Go figure.

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Jul 19, 2019 00:12:45   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Sorry, this was cut off. Puerto Rico's problems are a result of their own doing.

rumitoid wrote:
Wow what?


1999 GDP was $38 Billion, 2003 GDP $47.4 Billion.

Revenue 2002: $10.5 Billion;
Taxes: 62.6%
Income tax: 46.5%
Excise tax: 14.1%
Federal Grants: 19.0%
Non-tax revenue: 18.4%
Expenditures: $10.5 Billion
Public debt (outstanding; 1999): $22.7 Billion

Welfare: 22.3%
Education: 22.3%

Foreign Trade (2002-2003): (its dependence on imports)
Imports: 33.8 Billion
Exports: 55.2 Billion
(their Trade Surplus is enough to erase their debt)

Economy
The economy of Puerto Rico is classified as a high-income economy by the World Bank and as the most competitive economy in Latin America by the World Economic Forum but Puerto Rico currently has a public debt of $72.204 billion (equivalent to 103% of GNP), and a government deficit of $2.5 billion. According to the World Bank, gross national income per capita of Puerto Rico in 2013 is $23,830, ranked as 63rd among all sovereign and dependent territories entities in the world.

Puerto Rico experienced a recession from 2006 to 2011, interrupted by 4 quarters of economic growth, and entered into recession again in 2013, following growing fiscal imbalance and the expiration of the IRS Section 936 corporate incentives that the U.S. Internal Revenue Code had applied to Puerto Rico. This IRS section was critical to the economy, as it established tax exemptions for U.S. corporations that settled in Puerto Rico, and allowed their insular subsidiaries to send their earnings to the parent corporation at any time, without paying federal tax on corporate income. Puerto Rico has surprisingly been able to maintain relatively low inflation in the past decade while maintaining a purchasing power parity per capita higher than 80% of the rest of the world.

most of Puerto Rico's economic woes stem from its inability to become self-sufficient and self-sustainable throughout history; its highly politicized public policy which tends to change whenever a political party gains power; as well as its highly inefficient local government which has accrued a public debt equal to 68% of its gross domestic product throughout time.

The heavy debt load of their own creation.
In early 2017, the Puerto Rican government-debt crisis posed serious problems for the government which was saddled with outstanding bond debt that had climbed to $70 billion at a time with a 45 percent poverty rate and 12.4% unemployment that is more than twice the mainland U.S. average. The debt had been increasing during a decade long recession.

The Commonwealth had been defaulting on many debts, including bonds, since 2015. With debt payments due, the governor was facing the risk of a government shutdown and failure to fund the managed health care system. "Without action before April, Puerto Rico's ability to execute contracts for Fiscal Year 2018 with its managed care organizations will be threatened, thereby putting at risk beginning July 1, 2017 the health care of up to 900,000 poor U.S. citizens living in Puerto Rico", according to a letter sent to Congress by the Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Health and Human Services. They also said that "Congress must enact measures recommended by both Republicans and Democrats that fix Puerto Rico's inequitable health care financing structure and promote sustained economic growth."

Initially, the oversight board created under PROMESA called for Puerto Rico's governor Ricardo Rosselló to deliver a fiscal turnaround plan by January 28. Just before that deadline, the control board gave the Commonwealth government until February 28 to present a fiscal plan (including negotiations with creditors for restructuring debt) to solve the problems. A moratorium on lawsuits by debtors was extended to May 31. It is essential for Puerto Rico to reach restructuring deals to avoid a bankruptcy-like process under PROMESA. An internal survey conducted by the Puerto Rican Economists Association revealed that the majority of Puerto Rican economists reject the policy recommendations of the Board and the Rosselló government, with more than 80% of economists arguing in favor of auditing the debt.

In early August 2017, the island's financial oversight board (created by PROMESA) planned to institute two days off without pay per month for government employees, down from the original plan of four days per month; the latter had been expected to achieve $218 million in savings. Governor Rossello rejected this plan as unjustified and unnecessary. Pension reforms were also discussed including a proposal for a 10% reduction in benefits to begin addressing the $50 billion in unfunded pension liabilities.

Public finances
Puerto Rico has an operating budget of about U.S.$9.8 billion with expenses at about $10.4 billion, creating a structural deficit of $775 million (about 7.9% of the budget). The practice of approving budgets with a structural deficit has been done for 19 consecutive years starting in 2000. Throughout those years, including the present time, all budgets contemplated issuing bonds to cover these projected deficits rather than making structural adjustments. This practice increased Puerto Rico's cumulative debt, as the government had already been issuing bonds to balance its actual budget for four decades since 1973.

The consolidated budget is usually thrice the size of the general budget; currently $29B and $9.0B respectively. Almost one out of every four dollars in the consolidated budget comes from U.S. federal subsidies while government-owned corporations compose more than 31% of the consolidated budget.

The local government of Puerto Rico has requested several times to the U.S. Congress to exclude Puerto Rico from the Jones Act restrictions without success. These measures have always received support from all the major local political parties.

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Jul 19, 2019 00:23:44   #
rumitoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Sorry, this was cut off. Puerto Rico's problems are a result of their own doing.



1999 GDP was $38 Billion, 2003 GDP $47.4 Billion.

Revenue 2002: $10.5 Billion;
Taxes: 62.6%
Income tax: 46.5%
Excise tax: 14.1%
Federal Grants: 19.0%
Non-tax revenue: 18.4%
Expenditures: $10.5 Billion
Public debt (outstanding; 1999): $22.7 Billion

Welfare: 22.3%
Education: 22.3%

Foreign Trade (2002-2003): (its dependence on imports)
Imports: 33.8 Billion
Exports: 55.2 Billion
(their Trade Surplus is enough to erase their debt)

Economy
The economy of Puerto Rico is classified as a high-income economy by the World Bank and as the most competitive economy in Latin America by the World Economic Forum but Puerto Rico currently has a public debt of $72.204 billion (equivalent to 103% of GNP), and a government deficit of $2.5 billion. According to the World Bank, gross national income per capita of Puerto Rico in 2013 is $23,830, ranked as 63rd among all sovereign and dependent territories entities in the world.

Puerto Rico experienced a recession from 2006 to 2011, interrupted by 4 quarters of economic growth, and entered into recession again in 2013, following growing fiscal imbalance and the expiration of the IRS Section 936 corporate incentives that the U.S. Internal Revenue Code had applied to Puerto Rico. This IRS section was critical to the economy, as it established tax exemptions for U.S. corporations that settled in Puerto Rico, and allowed their insular subsidiaries to send their earnings to the parent corporation at any time, without paying federal tax on corporate income. Puerto Rico has surprisingly been able to maintain relatively low inflation in the past decade while maintaining a purchasing power parity per capita higher than 80% of the rest of the world.

most of Puerto Rico's economic woes stem from its inability to become self-sufficient and self-sustainable throughout history; its highly politicized public policy which tends to change whenever a political party gains power; as well as its highly inefficient local government which has accrued a public debt equal to 68% of its gross domestic product throughout time.

The heavy debt load of their own creation.
In early 2017, the Puerto Rican government-debt crisis posed serious problems for the government which was saddled with outstanding bond debt that had climbed to $70 billion at a time with a 45 percent poverty rate and 12.4% unemployment that is more than twice the mainland U.S. average. The debt had been increasing during a decade long recession.

The Commonwealth had been defaulting on many debts, including bonds, since 2015. With debt payments due, the governor was facing the risk of a government shutdown and failure to fund the managed health care system. "Without action before April, Puerto Rico's ability to execute contracts for Fiscal Year 2018 with its managed care organizations will be threatened, thereby putting at risk beginning July 1, 2017 the health care of up to 900,000 poor U.S. citizens living in Puerto Rico", according to a letter sent to Congress by the Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Health and Human Services. They also said that "Congress must enact measures recommended by both Republicans and Democrats that fix Puerto Rico's inequitable health care financing structure and promote sustained economic growth."

Initially, the oversight board created under PROMESA called for Puerto Rico's governor Ricardo Rosselló to deliver a fiscal turnaround plan by January 28. Just before that deadline, the control board gave the Commonwealth government until February 28 to present a fiscal plan (including negotiations with creditors for restructuring debt) to solve the problems. A moratorium on lawsuits by debtors was extended to May 31. It is essential for Puerto Rico to reach restructuring deals to avoid a bankruptcy-like process under PROMESA. An internal survey conducted by the Puerto Rican Economists Association revealed that the majority of Puerto Rican economists reject the policy recommendations of the Board and the Rosselló government, with more than 80% of economists arguing in favor of auditing the debt.

In early August 2017, the island's financial oversight board (created by PROMESA) planned to institute two days off without pay per month for government employees, down from the original plan of four days per month; the latter had been expected to achieve $218 million in savings. Governor Rossello rejected this plan as unjustified and unnecessary. Pension reforms were also discussed including a proposal for a 10% reduction in benefits to begin addressing the $50 billion in unfunded pension liabilities.

Public finances
Puerto Rico has an operating budget of about U.S.$9.8 billion with expenses at about $10.4 billion, creating a structural deficit of $775 million (about 7.9% of the budget). The practice of approving budgets with a structural deficit has been done for 19 consecutive years starting in 2000. Throughout those years, including the present time, all budgets contemplated issuing bonds to cover these projected deficits rather than making structural adjustments. This practice increased Puerto Rico's cumulative debt, as the government had already been issuing bonds to balance its actual budget for four decades since 1973.

The consolidated budget is usually thrice the size of the general budget; currently $29B and $9.0B respectively. Almost one out of every four dollars in the consolidated budget comes from U.S. federal subsidies while government-owned corporations compose more than 31% of the consolidated budget.

The local government of Puerto Rico has requested several times to the U.S. Congress to exclude Puerto Rico from the Jones Act restrictions without success. These measures have always received support from all the major local political parties.
Sorry, this was cut off. Puerto Rico's problems a... (show quote)


And how does all that deflecting info mitigate or annul Trump's blatant lies about aid money? Puerto Rico only got 42.5 billion and almost half has been withheld, not 91.2 billion trump trumpeted. But I am truly impressed at the lengths you went to to try and alleviate his guilt.

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