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Jun 1, 2014 14:53:00   #
joe1941
 
Think what labor unions could for their members, with money they give to democrat politicians, if they just invested it and loaned proceeds to their members! Unions GAVE over a billion dollars to democrat politicians in 2012, just think how many low interests loans they could have made to their members or scholarships to some of their members children. They could even have a membership drawing every few years and make a member a millionaire.
As it is their members get next to nothing for the money they give to politicians and the country just keeps getting worse at least this way some members would benefit. Maybe something like this would cause more people to want a union.

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Jun 1, 2014 14:58:36   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
joe1941 wrote:
Think what labor unions could for their members, with money they give to democrat politicians, if they just invested it and loaned proceeds to their members! Unions GAVE over a billion dollars to democrat politicians in 2012, just think how many low interests loans they could have made to their members or scholarships to some of their members children. They could even have a membership drawing every few years and make a member a millionaire.
As it is their members get next to nothing for the money they give to politicians and the country just keeps getting worse at least this way some members would benefit. Maybe something like this would cause more people to want a union.
Think what labor unions could for their members, w... (show quote)


Say, Joe. Is what you are smoking available to the general public? Unions are about more & more power and money for the Union Bosses. The members are just a means to an end. The poor boobs think their money is going to get themselves higher wages & more benefits but that is all window dressing. It's all about the Union Steward's next Caddie.

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Jun 1, 2014 15:08:54   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Say, Joe. Is what you are smoking available to the general public? Unions are about more & more power and money for the Union Bosses. The members are just a means to an end. The poor boobs think their money is going to get themselves higher wages & more benefits but that is all window dressing. It's all about the Union Steward's next Caddie.


Caddie automobile or gold caddie? Or perhaps both?

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Jun 1, 2014 15:18:25   #
moldyoldy
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Caddie automobile or gold caddie? Or perhaps both?


Unions are fighting the republicans who support big business, in thier effort to destroy the middle class, keep wages low, and shop all over the world for the lowest labor costs.

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Jun 1, 2014 15:34:08   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Unions are fighting the republicans who support big business, in thier effort to destroy the middle class, keep wages low, and shop all over the world for the lowest labor costs.


Unions are fighting to retain their power over their serfs.

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Jun 1, 2014 15:35:05   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Unions are fighting the republicans who support big business, in thier effort to destroy the middle class, keep wages low, and shop all over the world for the lowest labor costs.


The unions and democrats sure did a mighty fine job on gm and Detr**t didn't they?

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Jun 1, 2014 15:39:04   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
archie bunker wrote:
The unions and democrats sure did a mighty fine job on gm and Detr**t didn't they?


:thumbup:

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Jun 1, 2014 15:50:50   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvl5Gan69Wo



archie bunker wrote:
The unions and democrats sure did a mighty fine job on gm and Detr**t didn't they?

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Jun 1, 2014 16:12:19   #
moldyoldy
 
archie bunker wrote:
The unions and democrats sure did a mighty fine job on gm and Detr**t didn't they?


The management lined thier pockets, without modernizing the production floor. They needed to copy the toyota sustem, which was developed in america, but not adopted by our companies until too late.

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Jun 1, 2014 16:18:36   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Caddie automobile or gold caddie? Or perhaps both?


I v**e for "both"! :!: :!:

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Jun 1, 2014 16:22:16   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Unions are fighting the republicans who support big business, in thier effort to destroy the middle class, keep wages low, and shop all over the world for the lowest labor costs.


Well obviously those dastardly conservative Wall Street Bankers and Hollywood Media Moguls, who through $35,000 per plate dinners for Democrats are just not "big business", correct? Unions are not fighting to do a thing except get more money for their salaries. The last list I saw, every single union "boss" was in triple digits for salary. I wonder how many of their members are.

As to your comment... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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Jun 1, 2014 16:23:06   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Unions are fighting to retain their power over their serfs.


To quote someone from earlier today, :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jun 1, 2014 16:25:03   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The management lined thier pockets, without modernizing the production floor. They needed to copy the toyota sustem, which was developed in america, but not adopted by our companies until too late.


You are now using a nonunion shop as your criteria. Wow...does what Toyota accomplishes, with non union, give you a message. Next up would be VW, Nissan, and Honda.

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Jun 1, 2014 16:40:31   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
To the Japanese automobile manufacturers, unions are the plague. And the United Auto Workers (UAW) admit to having a tough time getting new union members when they visit Japanese manufacturers' plants (called 't***splants') in the U.S. "People just aren’t interested," said one union organizer.The Japanese auto makers in the U.S. seem to be winning their battle with the UAW because the people they employ seem convinced that the benefits are good and that the union couldn't do any better. Moreover, these auto makers tend to build plants in the U.S. in areas that have a low average wage for laborers. Worse, conditions are better in t***splants in some areas. An example of a happy plant of workers is in the Toyota plant in Georgetown, Kentucky. The workers are now being paid more and getting better bonuses than UAW workers average at domestic plants. Yet the UAW continues to try. It attempted to organize the workers at the Subaru plant in Lafayette at least three times. The result? Nada, nothing. The plant will be producing Camrys (pictured) in a joint venture with Toyota in April. Our take? The strength of the UAW has ebbed substantially. In 1979 the union had a membership of 1.5 million. By 2005 it had plunged to 600,000. Unless the t***splants do something real stupid like slashing wages in half or eliminating medical benefits, we see union membership continue to dwindle.

http://www.automotive.com/news/uaw-and-why-honda-and-toyota-workers-are-not-interested-1478/

AuntiE wrote:
You are now using a nonunion shop as your criteria. Wow...does what Toyota accomplishes, with non union, give you a message. Next up would be VW, Nissan, and Honda.

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Jun 1, 2014 16:45:59   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
AuntiE wrote:
You are now using a nonunion shop as your criteria. Wow...does what Toyota accomplishes, with non union, give you a message. Next up would be VW, Nissan, and Honda.


I understand that the employees in these non-union shops are happy with thier wage/benefit packages, workplace safety, etc. AND they make a quality product; AND the companys they work for don't owe the American taxpayers billions that will never be repaid. All without union "protection." Go figure.

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