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Jul 13, 2019 09:14:22   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
Sure, and like anything else they can use to gain more power, watch how fast they use their non-citizens to try multiplying their power in Congress.

New York, for example, actually issues people the city knows to be i******s an official "New York City I.D." that entitles them to everything a citizen is eligible for.

You think DeBlasio and Cuomo aren't going to capitalize on that?

\\Good morning Seth...,,


Think how illogical your idea is.

Getting tens of thousands of people to risk deportation to v**e a single time..

v**er suppression is far more effective and easier..

got a link for the "new York City ID"?? and its use..



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Jul 13, 2019 10:11:41   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
\\Good morning Seth...,,


Think how illogical your idea is.

Getting tens of thousands of people to risk deportation to v**e a single time..

v**er suppression is far more effective and easier..

got a link for the "new York City ID"?? and its use..


https://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page

I lived there before it was introduced, during the time they were promoting it and after they had begun issuing them. They blatantly advertised it on subway ads (those poster-style ads you see lining subway cars near ceiling level) and other public places as I.D. everyone in the five boroughs, regardless of citizenship or "other" immigrant status, could obtain that would give them the same rights and privileges of all New Yorkers.

Now, I know you folks over there on the port side are enamored of telling us supposedly less smart folk (after all how could anyone who loves America and our Constitution be as smart as those of you who want to tear the country down and the Constitution up?) that since certain things are illegal, no Democrat would even think of doing them, but that premise has been proven rather absurd by events... Just like your reasoning that ... "Why would they risk deportation just to v**e once?" says it all.

You say something couldn't be happening in a way that takes logic into account when logic is nowhere in play. For example, mass i*****l i*********n is a Homeland Security concern, which gives the federal government the final word on the subject, yet there are sanctuary cities and states.

Also, unless the federal government has people actually dissecting local v**er rolls and checking the v**ers against immigration files, there is no actual way to determine which v**ers are actually eligible to v**e.

Example: During the infamous Bush H*****g Chad Debacle®, while the MSM and the Democrats made much hay, few noticed that of the usual myriad expatriot New Yorker retirees in Florida, thousands were v****g in Florida while double dipping by v****g in New York by absentee b****t, and since states don't share their e******n systems with one another, that (mostly) escaped notice and, at the revelation, the MSM pretended they'd heard nothing of the sort, which was good enough for Democrats, since as long as their heroes in the Propaganda Ministry "liberal" media ignore something, the Democrats don't need to "officially" know it -- so the narrative du jour remained centered exclusively around the dreaded h*****g chads.

So sorry, Mr. Frost, but the denizens of the left side of the American political equation are, at best, as untrustworthy and Macchiavellan a lot as any entity that is attempting to promote a change that the majority of those affected would not want any part of, and must therefore be decieved into 😎.

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Jul 13, 2019 12:22:53   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page

I lived there before it was introduced, during the time they were promoting it and after they had begun issuing them. They blatantly advertised it on subway ads (those poster-style ads you see lining subway cars near ceiling level) and other public places as I.D. everyone in the five boroughs, regardless of citizenship or "other" immigrant status, could obtain that would give them the same rights and privileges of all New Yorkers.

Now, I know you folks over there on the port side are enamored of telling us supposedly less smart folk (after all how could anyone who loves America and our Constitution be as smart as those of you who want to tear the country down and the Constitution up?) that since certain things are illegal, no Democrat would even think of doing them, but that premise has been proven rather absurd by events... Just like your reasoning that ... "Why would they risk deportation just to v**e once?" says it all.

You say something couldn't be happening in a way that takes logic into account when logic is nowhere in play. For example, mass i*****l i*********n is a Homeland Security concern, which gives the federal government the final word on the subject, yet there are sanctuary cities and states.

Also, unless the federal government has people actually dissecting local v**er rolls and checking the v**ers against immigration files, there is no actual way to determine which v**ers are actually eligible to v**e.

Example: During the infamous Bush H*****g Chad Debacle®, while the MSM and the Democrats made much hay, few noticed that of the usual myriad expatriot New Yorker retirees in Florida, thousands were v****g in Florida while double dipping by v****g in New York by absentee b****t, and since states don't share their e******n systems with one another, that (mostly) escaped notice and, at the revelation, the MSM pretended they'd heard nothing of the sort, which was good enough for Democrats, since as long as their heroes in the Propaganda Ministry "liberal" media ignore something, the Democrats don't need to "officially" know it -- so the narrative du jour remained centered exclusively around the dreaded h*****g chads.

So sorry, Mr. Frost, but the denizens of the left side of the American political equation are, at best, as untrustworthy and Macchiavellan a lot as any entity that is attempting to promote a change that the majority of those affected would not want any part of, and must therefore be decieved into 😎.
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/index.page br br ... (show quote)




I only asked for alink, most of the time, right wingers fail to be on money as to what the bill, act, law is doing.. I find it important to check the version from the right.

As I would expect the right to check the version of the left..



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Jul 13, 2019 12:27:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
permafrost wrote:
I only asked for alink, most of the time, right wingers fail to be on money as to what the bill, act, law is doing.. I find it important to check the version from the right.

As I would expect the right to check the version of the left..




Not sure what to say about this..

if it works, we see more cities doing the same..

I will have to pay a little attention..

thanks for the link..



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