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Jul 16, 2019 08:36:08   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
Deb, as soon as we get rid of the orange curse now occupying the white house, we will start rebuilding and healing the destruction done by a fool in orange..

We will fix trumps damage faster then the Ronald Reagan direction change we are still paying for.


I have to disagree with that. I live in Illinois and we now have a dem supermajority. In the 5 months since they were sworn in they've legalized full term a******n , recreational and retail sales of pot, raised sales tax, gas tax, registration costs, some by 100%, expanded gambling 4 fold. NONE of these things are good for the people of Illinois, but are destructive and just line the pols pockets. I shudder to think how bad it would be if they had control of the whole country.

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Jul 16, 2019 08:41:20   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
debeda wrote:
I have to disagree with that. I live in Illinois and we now have a dem supermajority. In the 5 months since they were sworn in they've legalized full term a******n , recreational and retail sales of pot, raised sales tax, gas tax, registration costs, some by 100%, expanded gambling 4 fold. NONE of these things are good for the people of Illinois, but are destructive and just line the pols pockets. I shudder to think how bad it would be if they had control of the whole country.



You overlook the fact that someone has to pay for government services and if not corps and the wealthy, it will be the middle class..

You should reread that a******n bill. by yourself, not simply what some fish wrap media told you it said.
they lie to you..



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Jul 16, 2019 10:05:36   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
You overlook the fact that someone has to pay for government services and if not corps and the wealthy, it will be the middle class..

You should reread that a******n bill. by yourself, not simply what some fish wrap media told you it said.
they lie to you..


I have read it, I have talked to people. It's an obscene, vicious act of inhumanity. And some celebrate its passage. D********g, brainwashed zombies. And my point about Illinois was that not ONE thing passed is beneficial, and most are harmful. Illinois is broke because of IMRF and TRS pensions. After 20 years these people get 80% of the average of their last 3 years worked as a pension. Of COURSE that's not sustainable!! And it makes the rest of us dumb Joes less able to save for our own retirements. Which is usually a third or less than what we made when working

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Jul 16, 2019 11:05:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
debeda wrote:
I have read it, I have talked to people. It's an obscene, vicious act of inhumanity. And some celebrate its passage. D********g, brainwashed zombies. And my point about Illinois was that not ONE thing passed is beneficial, and most are harmful. Illinois is broke because of IMRF and TRS pensions. After 20 years these people get 80% of the average of their last 3 years worked as a pension. Of COURSE that's not sustainable!! And it makes the rest of us dumb Joes less able to save for our own retirements. Which is usually a third or less than what we made when working
I have read it, I have talked to people. It's an o... (show quote)


The a******n bill in Illinois seems to be a reaction to the extreme repression of the red states and the possable outcome of a court system which McConnoll stacks with more and more radical right winger rather then constitutional directed Justices..

The lose of women's health issues should be a grave concern to all Americans..

considering that you are so distressed by your state laws, you should consider a move..

I bet that Oklahoma would be much more comfortable for you..

Set up a move ASAP. you will love it..



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Jul 16, 2019 11:58:33   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
permafrost wrote:
The a******n bill in Illinois seems to be a reaction to the extreme repression of the red states and the possable outcome of a court system which McConnoll stacks with more and more radical right winger rather then constitutional directed Justices..

The lose of women's health issues should be a grave concern to all Americans..

considering that you are so distressed by your state laws, you should consider a move..

I bet that Oklahoma would be much more comfortable for you..

Set up a move ASAP. you will love it..
The a******n bill in Illinois seems to be a reacti... (show quote)


You seem to have a one track mind. You keep posting that every person that doesn't agree with your beliefs they are far right wing. That is far from the t***h. Just because the conservative Supreme Judges don't believe in the way you do, they are radical. They adhere to the Constitution and not by radical liberal thoughts such as the liberal judges. Most of the time, liberals, they v**e by party lines and not by the Constitution. The same type of liberal judges on the district courts don't go by the Constitution. The court of appeals are supposed to go by the Constitution, which doesn't allow them to make decisions about changing laws made by Congress and P**********l executive orders, which the president has the legal right to do. But when a Dem President had done the same by using the executive order, it is just fine with you. Obama had said many times "I don't have the authority to make a law to help the illegal children who were brought into this country, by their parents" that was just paraphrased by me. Then he does just that. Since it was an executive order any future President can, if they so desire, remove that executive order with their, pen as Obama had said before. Please inform us where women have lost their health issues? The Constitution doesn't give anyone the right to an a******n with federal money. By federal law, a woman has the right to have an a******n but that doesn't give the right to have it paid for by the American people.
As for people moving, those that don't like the laws passed by Congress and legal laws by executive order, they should be the one's that should move to another country. How about all of the liberals that said "they would move to Canada or other countries around the world if T***p w*n. It seem that those were a hollow threat, since they really know this country can't be beat by any other country.

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Jul 16, 2019 12:39:55   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
The a******n bill in Illinois seems to be a reaction to the extreme repression of the red states and the possable outcome of a court system which McConnoll stacks with more and more radical right winger rather then constitutional directed Justices..

The lose of women's health issues should be a grave concern to all Americans..

considering that you are so distressed by your state laws, you should consider a move..

I bet that Oklahoma would be much more comfortable for you..

Set up a move ASAP. you will love it..
The a******n bill in Illinois seems to be a reacti... (show quote)


Cant move. Gotta work, not portable. A******n is NOT health care, FYI

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Jul 16, 2019 15:56:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Gosh that is dumb..

The work of Prsident Obama set records for 8 years, did wonders for our recovery. Led the western world in that recovery..

trump lumbered in, did nothing but give the very rich a mountain of money, that was used for stock buy back and drove the stock market, making ever more money for the 6% which own 90% of the nations stock.

The rest of our economy continued the trend of 8 years and you think the orange con did something for you? He did not..

thumps stupid trade and tariffs are a set back which will last years.

Looking at the long term more damage then can be repaired in decades..
Gosh that is dumb.. br br The work of Prsident Ob... (show quote)


LOL! Yes, things have really gone down hill since Trump came in. Obama was a continuation of the years of no inc in wages and the slowest recovery in the history of the plant. If you want to go back to the Obama style recovery, v**e your liberals back in.

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Jul 16, 2019 15:56:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Louie27 wrote:
You seem to have a one track mind. You keep posting that every person that doesn't agree with your beliefs they are far right wing. That is far from the t***h. Just because the conservative Supreme Judges don't believe in the way you do, they are radical. They adhere to the Constitution and not by radical liberal thoughts such as the liberal judges. Most of the time, liberals, they v**e by party lines and not by the Constitution. The same type of liberal judges on the district courts don't go by the Constitution. The court of appeals are supposed to go by the Constitution, which doesn't allow them to make decisions about changing laws made by Congress and P**********l executive orders, which the president has the legal right to do. But when a Dem President had done the same by using the executive order, it is just fine with you. Obama had said many times "I don't have the authority to make a law to help the illegal children who were brought into this country, by their parents" that was just paraphrased by me. Then he does just that. Since it was an executive order any future President can, if they so desire, remove that executive order with their, pen as Obama had said before. Please inform us where women have lost their health issues? The Constitution doesn't give anyone the right to an a******n with federal money. By federal law, a woman has the right to have an a******n but that doesn't give the right to have it paid for by the American people.
As for people moving, those that don't like the laws passed by Congress and legal laws by executive order, they should be the one's that should move to another country. How about all of the liberals that said "they would move to Canada or other countries around the world if T***p w*n. It seem that those were a hollow threat, since they really know this country can't be beat by any other country.
You seem to have a one track mind. You keep postin... (show quote)




Why did you not move the heck out of the country when President Obama was helping the nation and ruining your life?

The long attempt to remove women's rights over their own body in fully underway, the states countering the removal of rights are doing so in the best manner possable..

The justices and judges hand chosen by trump and pushed by McConnell are chosen to protect trump not have any positive affect on our nation..



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Jul 16, 2019 16:00:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
LOL! Yes, things have really gone down hill since Trump came in. Obama was a continuation of the years of no inc in wages and the slowest recovery in the history of the plant. If you want to go back to the Obama style recovery, v**e your liberals back in.


that is dumb..nwtk, you know for ages i will v**e 100% democrat at every opportunity..

My v****g is because I love my country, not because I h**e some black guy..

Last republican I v**ed for was better then most and still had to resign to avoid indictment.



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Jul 16, 2019 16:12:55   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
permafrost wrote:
Why did you not move the heck out of the country when President Obama was helping the nation and ruining your life?

The long attempt to remove women's rights over their own body in fully underway, the states countering the removal of rights are doing so in the best manner possable..

The justices and judges hand chosen by trump and pushed by McConnell are chosen to protect trump not have any positive affect on our nation..


I never said that I would move out of the country and still thought Obama was our President. I just didn't think his policies would help this country. He stated he wanted to change this country and I thought that wasn't necessary even with the faults our country has. I never said at any time my life was ruined by Obama. I just hoped we would be able to become free from his agenda of free things and Obama Care which caused most of American's to have much higher rates for health insurance. Which included very high deductible's, some weren't able to pay. The judges appointed by President Trump are judges that adhere to the Constitution and not to the party. Their positive effect will be what our country needs at this moment in time. You are just upset because the liberal judges will be outnumbered and will not be able to go with their parties agenda.

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Jul 16, 2019 16:34:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Louie27 wrote:
I never said that I would move out of the country and still thought Obama was our President. I just didn't think his policies would help this country. He stated he wanted to change this country and I thought that wasn't necessary even with the faults our country has. I never said at any time my life was ruined by Obama. I just hoped we would be able to become free from his agenda of free things and Obama Care which caused most of American's to have much higher rates for health insurance. Which included very high deductible's, some weren't able to pay. The judges appointed by President Trump are judges that adhere to the Constitution and not to the party. Their positive effect will be what our country needs at this moment in time. You are just upset because the liberal judges will be outnumbered and will not be able to go with their parties agenda.
I never said that I would move out of the country ... (show quote)



the party pushing an agenda is the republicans via Mitch McConnell..

blocking of 100s of judges placement by Obama and now blocking nearly all legislation other the placing biased judges at every level.

It is not a coincidence that women's right are being removed at such a fevered pace in so many red states. they know the strategy of the McConnell republicans and expect the full removal of women's right to choose.

Millions of people will be without insurance if trump gets his way.

then you will find yourself paying more for the last second effort to slow the dying then you would just by paying insurance..



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Jul 16, 2019 17:22:13   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
permafrost wrote:
the party pushing an agenda is the republicans via Mitch McConnell..

blocking of 100s of judges placement by Obama and now blocking nearly all legislation other the placing biased judges at every level.

It is not a coincidence that women's right are being removed at such a fevered pace in so many red states. they know the strategy of the McConnell republicans and expect the full removal of women's right to choose.

Millions of people will be without insurance if trump gets his way.

then you will find yourself paying more for the last second effort to slow the dying then you would just by paying insurance..
the party pushing an agenda is the republicans via... (show quote)


What rights of women are being removed? Please inform us.

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Jul 16, 2019 17:43:01   #
debeda
 
Louie27 wrote:
I never said that I would move out of the country and still thought Obama was our President. I just didn't think his policies would help this country. He stated he wanted to change this country and I thought that wasn't necessary even with the faults our country has. I never said at any time my life was ruined by Obama. I just hoped we would be able to become free from his agenda of free things and Obama Care which caused most of American's to have much higher rates for health insurance. Which included very high deductible's, some weren't able to pay. The judges appointed by President Trump are judges that adhere to the Constitution and not to the party. Their positive effect will be what our country needs at this moment in time. You are just upset because the liberal judges will be outnumbered and will not be able to go with their parties agenda.
I never said that I would move out of the country ... (show quote)



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Jul 16, 2019 17:43:58   #
debeda
 
Louie27 wrote:
What rights of women are being removed? Please inform us.


I think hes referring to the right to infanticide

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Jul 16, 2019 17:51:17   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
debeda wrote:
I think hes referring to the right to infanticide


He probable doesn't know what their rights are at this time.

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