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Jul 12, 2019 09:10:19   #
byronglimish (a regular here)
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I agree, the kommiecrats would kill Trump if they have a chance.


Ol perm would love to break out the old sniper gear.

I heard a reprobate speak of using a drone to assassinate the President.

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Jul 12, 2019 09:15:48   #
Seth (a regular here)
 
working class stiff wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-conspiracy-a-yahoo-news-investigation-100000831.html

This is interesting, considering how many times I've read about the Clintons murdering Mr. Rich on this forum. Oh well....sometimes dreams don't come true.


I recently uninstalled my Yahoo! app and sent changes to everyone I corresponded with there, directing them to one of my other email addresses, because I got tired of having that phony, fake, bogus, one-sided news they post every day showing up to waste my time.

It is interesting, though, that you "liberals" were a lot friendlier to Russia during its Communist years. 🤔

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Jul 12, 2019 09:18:18   #
byronglimish (a regular here)
 
Seth wrote:
I recently uninstalled my Yahoo! app and sent changes to everyone I corresponded with there, directing them to one of my other email addresses, because I got tired of having that phony, fake, bogus, one-sided news they post every day showing up to waste my time.

It is interesting, though, that you "liberals" were a lot friendlier to Russia during its Communist years. 🤔




Hear, Hear!!

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Jul 12, 2019 09:35:31   #
Mikeyavelli (a regular here)
 
byronglimish wrote:
Hear, Hear!!


Here Here!🍾🥂👍😁

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Jul 12, 2019 09:37:16   #
lindajoy (a regular here)
 
badbob85037 wrote:
No Bill and hillary killed him too.



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Jul 12, 2019 09:38:41   #
lindajoy (a regular here)
 
Seth wrote:
I recently uninstalled my Yahoo! app and sent changes to everyone I corresponded with there, directing them to one of my other email addresses, because I got tired of having that phony, fake, bogus, one-sided news they post every day showing up to waste my time.

It is interesting, though, that you "liberals" were a lot friendlier to Russia during its Communist years. 🤔


Have never used yahoo for the very reasons you bring up here!!

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Jul 12, 2019 09:39:34   #
lindajoy (a regular here)
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Here Here!🍾🥂👍😁


Hey, heyyyyyyy 💫😘

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Jul 12, 2019 09:43:00   #
byronglimish (a regular here)
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Here Here!🍾🥂👍😁


Hey.. over here, over there.

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Jul 12, 2019 10:24:44   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Ignore the facts and don't listen to your inner voice. Fine.

As for Trump, he is not shielded. There is nothing preventing him from being indicted OR impeached. Go for it, I say. It won't stick and that's a fact. There simply is no case.





https://time.com/5573289/robert-mueller-trump-obstruction-charges/

Special Counsel Robert Mueller found significant evidence that Donald Trump may have obstructed justice, but he declined to charge him based on his view of how the law should work.

In a 400-page report sent to Congress Thursday, the former FBI director spelled out a view of the constitutional limitations placed on prosecutors which guided his decision-making in not charging Trump.

At the same time, he plainly stated that if he could have said that Trump was innocent of obstruction of justice, he would have done so.

“The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intents present difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred,” Mueller wrote. “Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

The report details several examples of conduct which might be considered obstruction of justice, including Trump pressuring FBI Director James Comey to drop an investigation into his national security advisor, firing Comey, attempting to urge Attorney General Sessions to undo his recusal from the investigation and attempting to fire Mueller, among other things.


A sitting president cannot be indicted
Mueller began by noting that the Office of Legal Counsel in the White House wrote in a 2000 memo that sitting presidents can’t be indicted because it would undermine their ability to oversee the nation’s criminal justice system. But he adds that doesn’t mean that a special counsel couldn’t investigate a presidential actions, since charges could be brought after they’ve left office.

“Given those considerations, the facts known to us, and the strong public interest in safeguarding the integrity of the criminal justice system, we conducted a thorough factual investigation in order to preserve the evidence when memories were fresh and documentary materials were available,” he wrote.

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Jul 12, 2019 10:33:34   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
proud republican wrote:
What you mean if he lives long enough to leave office standing???Is this some kind of threat,Permy???



Mostly nothing,, what was on my mind, the last video i watched of him leaving the helicopter , he stumbled a couple time, reached for the rail walking down steps..

One of my fellow republican watchers, voiced the thought that all the cheeseburgers were making a comment..

He is not a trump fan.. resents voting for him.. also a lousy golfer..



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Jul 12, 2019 12:05:16   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://bylinetimes.com/2019/04/20/mueller-report-assange-spread-seth-rich-conspiracy-theory-to-cover-for-russia/


Assange cover for Russia???? There is no evidence that Assange ever provided any assistance to the Russian government, knowingly or unknowingly. In fact, WikiLeaks has published hundreds of thousands of documents pertaining to Russia, has made critical comments about the Russian government and defended dissident Russian activists, and in 2017 published an entire trove called the Spy Files Russia exposing Russian surveillance practices. Does that sound like being pro Russia let alone covering for them?

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Jul 12, 2019 12:10:01   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
Seth wrote:
I recently uninstalled my Yahoo! app and sent changes to everyone I corresponded with there, directing them to one of my other email addresses, because I got tired of having that phony, fake, bogus, one-sided news they post every day showing up to waste my time.

It is interesting, though, that you "liberals" were a lot friendlier to Russia during its Communist years. 🤔


I am not very computer or tech literate. But speaking of yahoo, maybe you could give me a clue why starting this month when I try to use google to look anything up, the list of sites that come up are in yahoo, not google? I have never used yahoo on this computer for anything.

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Jul 12, 2019 12:17:14   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
https://time.com/5573289/robert-mueller-trump-obstruction-charges/

Special Counsel Robert Mueller found significant evidence that Donald Trump may have obstructed justice, but he declined to charge him based on his view of how the law should work.

In a 400-page report sent to Congress Thursday, the former FBI director spelled out a view of the constitutional limitations placed on prosecutors which guided his decision-making in not charging Trump.

At the same time, he plainly stated that if he could have said that Trump was innocent of obstruction of justice, he would have done so.

“The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intents present difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred,” Mueller wrote. “Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

The report details several examples of conduct which might be considered obstruction of justice, including Trump pressuring FBI Director James Comey to drop an investigation into his national security advisor, firing Comey, attempting to urge Attorney General Sessions to undo his recusal from the investigation and attempting to fire Mueller, among other things.


A sitting president cannot be indicted
Mueller began by noting that the Office of Legal Counsel in the White House wrote in a 2000 memo that sitting presidents can’t be indicted because it would undermine their ability to oversee the nation’s criminal justice system. But he adds that doesn’t mean that a special counsel couldn’t investigate a presidential actions, since charges could be brought after they’ve left office.

“Given those considerations, the facts known to us, and the strong public interest in safeguarding the integrity of the criminal justice system, we conducted a thorough factual investigation in order to preserve the evidence when memories were fresh and documentary materials were available,” he wrote.
https://time.com/5573289/robert-mueller-trump-obst... (show quote)


Not according to his own report. If it were a case of not charging him because he was a sitting President, the evidence would still be listed in the report along with all the frivolous evidence such as "Trump said nice things about Flynn." and "...Manafort." which was under Mueller's list of evidence of obstruction. This is something the media has reported as if fact ever since the Mueller report didn't pan out as they wanted. It is a fantasy. An MSM wet dream. That a sitting president can't be indicted is NOT evidence of guilt!

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Jul 12, 2019 12:19:27   #
77Reaganite
 
working class stiff wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-conspiracy-a-yahoo-news-investigation-100000831.html

This is interesting, considering how many times I've read about the Clintons murdering Mr. Rich on this forum. Oh well....sometimes dreams don't come true.


You can go ahead and believe that the Russians killed Seth Rich all you want to but it was the Clinton crime syndicate that killed Seth rich just like the Clinton crime syndicate killed Vince Foster and placed his body next to a Confederate statue to make it look like he killed himself but when you get to the crime scene there's no gun residue on mr. Foster's hand and there's no brain matter left around the area where he was supposedly shot himself but what you do find is that there is a lot of cotton fibers on his clothing which means he was rolling a carpet and dunk at the scene to make it look like he killed himself because even the cia's old autopsy report rules out suicide so I don't know where this is going but it's not the Russians who killed Seth Rich let me be perfectly clear what did Seth Rich release it was everything that the DNC had on their servers about Hillary Clinton and also shed light on the podesta brothers in there pedophilia that's what it shed light on that's the reason why he was killed because you don't go against the clintons! All you got to do is just look up the body count from when they were in office there in Arkansas when Bill was governor that's all you got to do you'll be astonished my friend out of all the people that have gotten killed working in and around the clintons! The only reason why the clintons don't get prosecuted is because Bill is the son of Nelson Rockefeller that's it because the Rockefeller name is still strong here in America they're still the strongest and wealthiest family in the world other than the Rothschilds second date their lineage all the way back to the beginning of Jerusalem that's no joke! They're basically royalty around the world! And they're all part of this Global destruction of the world known as globalism they are the biggest globalists known to man it was Hillary and Bill that gave the launch codes to China One bill was president can you can really look that up a really did give China our launch codes

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Jul 12, 2019 12:24:08   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
JoyV wrote:
Not according to his own report. If it were a case of not charging him because he was a sitting President, the evidence would still be listed in the report along with all the frivolous evidence such as "Trump said nice things about Flynn." and "...Manafort." which was under Mueller's list of evidence of obstruction. This is something the media has reported as if fact ever since the Mueller report didn't pan out as they wanted. It is a fantasy. An MSM wet dream. That a sitting president can't be indicted is NOT evidence of guilt!
Not according to his own report. If it were a cas... (show quote)



The fantasy you trump supporters live in is a match for Grimms fairy tales. Do you look at nothing but right wing fish wrap??

https://www.apnews.com/e0d125d737be4a21a81bec3d9f1dffd8


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The 10 instances of possible obstruction in Mueller report
By MARK SHERMAN
April 18, 2019

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Attorney General William Barr speaks alongside Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, right, and acting Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General Edward O'Callaghan, left, about the release of a redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller's report during a news conference, Thursday, April 18, 2019, at the Department of Justice in Washington. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)
WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election identified 10 instances of possible obstruction of justice by President Donald Trump. Mueller said in his report that he could not conclusively determine that Trump had committed a crime or that he hadn’t.

A look at the 10 instances:

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PRESSURE ON COMEY TO END PROBE OF MICHAEL FLYNN

This includes the president’s statement to then-FBI Director James Comey regarding the investigation of then-national security adviser Michael Flynn. Trump told Comey: “I hope you can see your way to letting this go.”


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PRESIDENT’S REACTION TO THE CONTINUING RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

Among the evidence is the president telling then-White House counsel Don McGahn to stop Attorney General Jeff Sessions from recusing himself from the Russia investigation and Trump’s subsequent anger at Sessions. Trump also contacted Comey and other intelligence agency leaders to ask them to push back publicly on the suggestion that Trump had any connection to the Russian election-interference effort.

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FIRING OF COMEY AND AFTERMATH

Mueller’s report says “substantial evidence” indicates Trump’s decision to fire Comey in May 2017 was the result of the FBI director’s unwillingness to say publicly that Trump was not personally under investigation. On the day after Trump fired Comey, the president told Russian officials that he had “faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

Attorney General William Barr says special counsel Robert Mueller's report recounts 10 episodes involving President Donald Trump that were investigated as potential acts of criminal obstruction of justice. (April 18)
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APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL AND EFFORTS TO REMOVE HIM

Trump reacted to news of Mueller’s appointment by telling advisers that it was “the end of his presidency.” The president told aides that Mueller had conflicts of interest and should have to step aside. His aides told Trump the asserted conflicts were meritless. Following media reports that Mueller’s team was investigating whether the president had obstructed justice, Trump called then-White House counsel Don McGahn at home and directed him to have Mueller removed. McGahn refused.

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FURTHER EFFORTS TO CURTAIL THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’s INVESTIGATION

Trump instructed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to have Sessions publicly announce that, notwithstanding his recusal from the Russia investigation, the investigation was “very unfair” to the president, the president had done nothing wrong, and Sessions planned to meet with Mueller to limit him to “investigating election meddling for future elections.”


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EFFORTS TO PREVENT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF EVIDENCE

In summer of 2017, Trump learned that the news media planned to report on the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower between senior campaign officials and Russians offering derogatory information about Hillary Clinton. The president directed aides not to publicly disclose the emails setting up the meeting. Before the emails became public, the president also edited a press statement for Donald Trump Jr. by deleting a line that acknowledged that the meeting was “with an individual who (Trump Jr.) was told might have information helpful to the campaign.”

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ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO HAVE SESSIONS TAKE CONTROL OF INVESTIGATION

At several points in between July 2017 and December 2017, Trump tried to get Sessions to declare that he was no longer recused from the Russia investigation and would assert control over it. The report says there’s evidence that one purpose of asking Sessions to step in was so that the attorney general would restrict the investigation’s scope.

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TRUMP ORDERS WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO DENY THAT PRESIDENT TRIED TO FIRE MUELLER

In an Oval Office meeting in February 2018, Trump told McGahn to “correct” a New York Times story that reported Trump had earlier instructed McGahn to fire Mueller. Trump also asked why McGahn had told Mueller’s investigators about the directive to remove Mueller. McGahn told Trump he had to tell the investigators the truth.

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TRUMP’S ACTIONS TOWARD, FLYNN, MANAFORT AND OTHER POSSIBLE WITNESSES

Mueller looked at whether Trump’s sympathetic messages to Flynn, former campaign manager Paul Manafort and others were intended to limit their cooperation with Mueller’s investigation. When Flynn began cooperating with prosecutors, Trump passed word through his lawyer that he still had warm feeling for Flynn and asked for a “heads up” if Flynn knew of information implicating Trump. Trump praised Manafort during and after his criminal convictions, and refused to rule out a pardon for his former campaign chairman.

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TRUMP ACTIONS TOWARD MICHAEL COHEN

Mueller noted that Trump’s conduct toward Cohen, a former Trump Organization executive, changed from praise to castigation after Cohen began cooperating with prosecutors. The evidence could “support an inference that the president used inducements in the form of positive messages in an effort to get Cohen not to cooperate, and then turned to attacks and intimidation to deter” cooperation and undermine Cohen’s credibility, Mueller wrote.

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For complete coverage of the Mueller report, go to https://www.apnews.com/TrumpInvestigations

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