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Jul 11, 2019 19:20:38   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Seth Rich is now known as "Russia".
This murder of Seth Rich is as taboo among the lefties as Obama's birth certificate and the Vince Foster murder...er...suicide.
Strange that the Capitol police were told to stand down on the Seth Rich murder case. Guess there was nothing to investigate.



Seth Rich parents sued Fox news for stories just like your tale..

Yet your people keep pushing the plan...

what your aim now is, i am not sure.

Lady Hillary is no longer in politics..



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Jul 11, 2019 19:23:20   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
working class stiff wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-conspiracy-a-yahoo-news-investigation-100000831.html

This is interesting, considering how many times I've read about the Clintons murdering Mr. Rich on this forum. Oh well....sometimes dreams don't come true.


So the Russians killed him to get Trump elected. So just how does killing Seth Rich, get Trump elected?

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Jul 11, 2019 19:24:13   #
working class stiff (a regular here)
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
It's funny, you Trump haters say Trump is like a mob boss or something similar and yet, those are the tactics of the mob "bosses." And you're going after him like he's a mob boss. You can't get him for the big Russia thing so now you're wanting to get into his taxes and get him of tax evasion just like with Al Capone, right? LOL!

Read about what Donna Brazille said about Seth's murder. It's give you chills. She said she feared for her life! Why? Said she felt responsible for his murder. Why?? Said his murder would haunt them all! Why??

Conspiracy? Shot twice in the back and it's a botched robbery? More like he'd given someone something and was leaving. Nothing taken. No witnesses. Not even someone nearby. No explanation about why he was there. Was he out jogging? Out for a walk? Did he often go there? Nothing for the public ass regards to any of that. A black hole. Botched robbery. Right.
It's funny, you Trump haters say Trump is like a m... (show quote)


I had no idea that we were talking about Trump.

The questions you raise in no way imply assassination. You are left with the same questions as every victim's family...why? Doesn't mean the Clintons killed him.

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Jul 11, 2019 19:25:34   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I like those theories that say that a person committed suicide....................................by multiple gunshots.


Even better is that after they kill themselves, they dispose of the weapon. Maybe since zombie movies are so popular among the left, that actually makes sense to them.

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Jul 11, 2019 19:27:02   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Whatever it is, the Russians did it. Thanks Yahoo 'news', once again you reinforce my preconceived notion of your unflinching neutrality in reporting the 'news'.


No you've confused me. I thought it was Trump at fault for everything since the founding of this country, and maybe before.

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Jul 11, 2019 19:27:04   #
working class stiff (a regular here)
 
JoyV wrote:
So the Russians killed him to get Trump elected. So just how does killing Seth Rich, get Trump elected?


The title is a teaser....the Russians perpetrated the conspiracy that Rich was killed by the Clintons.

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Jul 11, 2019 19:35:42   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
An interesting take on that story. I read that story too and do not recall anywhere in there that the Russians killed Seth, they just merely started pushing the conspiracy theory that a "Hillary Clinton hit squad killed him".

Even though that story doesn't say anything akin to "The Russians killed Seth", I am just now after reading your take on the story left to wonder, is it possible that they did? What better way to get a nasty conspiracy theory smear campaign going on someone you NEVER want to see as president? Kill someone connected with them, start a smear campaign alleging that the person has a "kill squad" and that the "kill squad" killed the victim and let it snowball on the internet. Something to think about, just not too hard or it could drive you as insane as all these Trumpsters.




Edit: Sorry, I read a bit beyond your post then went back and replied to yours first somehow thinking you suggested the Russians killed Seth.



Edit #2: Oh wait, the title.
An interesting take on that story. I read that sto... (show quote)


It's what the article alleges. But isn't it a stretch to think that if they kill a little known DNC worker, it could be made into a huge conspiracy campaign? They's also have to have the police in their back pocket to rule a killing as a suicide with enough clues it wasn't in the hopes that someone would pick up on it and jump to the conclusion he was killed by a Hillary hit squad. If they were going to manufacture such a conspiracy, and didn't mind killing to do so; aren't there better targets which would have raised a greater outcry? And if they could get the cops to go along with them, why not plant some evidence which would be more sure to lead people to the conclusions they wanted? Then add the attempted murder of Jack Burkman who was investigating the Seth Rich murder. And though Rich's 'family' self assigned spokesman, Brad Bauman of MediaMatters, say they stand behind the official report, his father said, " “If it was a robbery — it failed because he still has his watch, he still has his money — he still has his credit cards, still had his phone so it was a wasted effort except we lost a life.”" And in an interview, Julian Assange said, Julian Assange: Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material and often very significant risks. As a 27 year-old, works for the DNC, was shot in the back, murdered just a few weeks ago for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington."

Reporter: That was just a robbery, I believe. Wasn’t it?

Julian Assange: "No. There’s no finding. So… I’m suggesting that our sources take risks."

And what about the other whistleblowers on the DNC who also wound up dead. All of either natural causes or suicide in a six-week period who were all connected to Hillary in some way. If the Russians were just exploiting a sudden death to spread conspiracy theories, these would sure give them plenty of ammo. The others were:

Victor Thorn, a 54-year-old Clinton researcher who wrote several books on Bill Clinton’s sexual assaults and drug running through Mena, Arkansas. He was found dead from a gunshot wound on a mountaintop near his home. He once said, “if anyone tells you I committed suicide, don’t believe them. I would never commit suicide.”

The very next day Shawn Lucas, a prominent lawyer who delivered a subpoena to Debbie Wasserman Shultz in a class action lawsuit on the primaries being rigged against Sanders was found dead on his bathroom floor faced down. Medical examiners tried to say it was a heart attack, but his girlfriend said he was in perfect health.

Joe Montano a Filipino American and aide to Sen.Tim Kaine died at age 47 of a heart attack a week before the Democrat convention and right before the Wikileaks e-mails came out.

United Nations official John Ash died when a barbell fell on his neck right before he was to testify against Hillary in a bribery scandal and was connected to a Chinese official who was being tried on smuggling in millions of dollars to here. He had been previously connected to Bill and Hillary in the Chinagate scandal when Bill was president. Ash’s death was first ruled a heart attack but later changed to a barbell accident just like in the plot of a Columbo episode.

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Jul 11, 2019 19:42:32   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
There is the beginning of the article, I wanted to do the entirety of the article but it wouldn't fit. That doesn't matter, I have read the whole article twice now and nowhere in that article does it say that the Russians killed Seth. I pointed out with bold text and in one spot, colored text, the pertinent facts that show that the story IS NOT claiming the Russians KILLED seth, merely that they jumped on the opportunity of his death to smear Hillary. Please feel free to direct me to any portion of the article, short form or long form, that proves my reading of this article was inadequate and that the article DOES say that the Russians actually killed him.
There is the beginning of the article, I wanted to... (show quote)


No but it is strongly implied. The Hillary angle broke very quickly after his death. So if the scenario Yahoo is proposing were true, the Russians would have had to have had a story ready to go about his death by the hit squad before or immediately after his death BEFORE the police investigation was completed. As when I first read that Seth might be one of the many people killed by Hillary or her agents; the police investigation was still underway.

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Jul 11, 2019 20:00:48   #
nwtk2007 (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
If trump lives long enough to leave office standing, then he will not be protected by the position of President and will well face indictment he now is insulated from..


You sorta live for these conspiracy plots don`t you..


Ignore the facts and don't listen to your inner voice. Fine.

As for Trump, he is not shielded. There is nothing preventing him from being indicted OR impeached. Go for it, I say. It won't stick and that's a fact. There simply is no case.

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Jul 11, 2019 20:09:09   #
byronglimish (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Seth Rich parents sued Fox news for stories just like your tale..

Yet your people keep pushing the plan...

what your aim now is, i am not sure.

Lady Hillary is no longer in politics..


Perm, what is the prog reasoning for avoiding the fact that the downloaded info off of Hillary's computers, was downloaded too fast for a outside hack.?

I say Hillary's computers because she had total and complete control of every aspect of the DNC.

And why wouldn't Hillary give the FBI forensic team access to the computers.

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Jul 11, 2019 20:32:02   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Seth Rich parents sued Fox news for stories just like your tale..

Yet your people keep pushing the plan...

what your aim now is, i am not sure.

Lady Hillary is no longer in politics..


Yup. One week his father Joel is pushing for an investigation into the death of his son and giving interviews, and suddenly you hear nothing from Joel or anyone else but a recently hired spokesman for the family and founder of a left wing opinion paper. And the family does an about face and no longer want any investigation into their son's death or any pro-Seth/anti-Hillary publicity.

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Jul 11, 2019 20:35:18   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Since I don't track conspiracy theories, I can not say when the "Clinton deathsquad" theory came into existence and what deaths were accredited to it as it's inception so I can't really comment much about that theory other than it may have been built upon the claims arising from the Seth Rich killing.





P.S. No problem, I have jumped to conclusions myself at times, usually when I see an article on what I consider to be a shady site.


Don't know when but years before Seth Rich' death. I remember such stories when Clinton was president.

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Jul 11, 2019 20:45:18   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
working class stiff wrote:
So why is it that so many right wingers are sure that the Clintons are murderers?

Much more likely is that many on the right got snookered by Russian disinformation, took that disinformation to heart, and are now unable to face the reality of how badly they got bamboozled. So they continue to smear the Clintons as murderers, all based on Russian disinformation.


Retroactively?

This list is out of date and ends at Seth rich. But it should give the idea.

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes” on Sept. 11, 1998 in solitary confinement.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

Not Included in this list are the 4 men killed in Benghazi.

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Jul 11, 2019 20:48:30   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
We might have mentioned this. It's my understanding that the computer has never been examined by any one, not even the FBI and yet they say it was hacked by Russians.


Yup. And it is taken as proven fact by the anti-Trumpers.

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Jul 11, 2019 20:50:26   #
JoyV (a regular here)
 
kemmer wrote:
The police reports say neither Clinton nor the Russians had anything to do with the murder. The Russians afterwards planted conspiracy theories all over the social media they had access to.


So did the Russians have a time machine to plant conspiracy theories in the 80s if they started this after Seth's death?

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