Who knew the Russians k**led Seth Rich? (Page 2): With so many theories bandied about and with the MSM not doing its job properly, who knows what the t***h really is?

Rose42

working class stiff wrote:

That's not at all what I read.

The article doesn't claim a Russian k**led Rich....it states that the conspiracy theory (Clintons k**led Rich) was planted by the Russians.

I find it odd that the conspiracy theory is planted so deeply that it no longer is seen to be a fabrication, but accepted as fact by those who choose to believe it....almost like religion.

With so many theories bandied about and with the MSM not doing its job properly, who knows what the t***h really is?

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

proud republican wrote:

Yes i did...I still think its ridiculous to blame Russians for everything...Maybe you will blame Russians for JFK DEATH TOO???

Oswald was a KGB asset, you didn't know?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/16/foul-t*****r-new-jfk-assassination-records-reveal-kgb-defectors-three-year-interrogation/?noredirect=on

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

working class stiff wrote:

That's not at all what I read.

The article doesn't claim a Russian k**led Rich....it states that the conspiracy theory (Clintons k**led Rich) was planted by the Russians.

I find it odd that the conspiracy theory is planted so deeply that it no longer is seen to be a fabrication, but accepted as fact by those who choose to believe it....almost like religion.

It's not so much that there is a specific conspiracy theory that people believe. We just don't buy into the botched robbery theory when all of the other bits of the circumstances are considered.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

I agree, nothing taken and it's called a robbery, if nothing was taken it's called a k*****g!

nwtk2007 wrote:

It's not so much that there is a specific conspiracy theory that people believe. We just don't buy into the botched robbery theory when all of the other bits of the circumstances are considered.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

bmac32 wrote:

I agree, nothing taken and it's called a robbery, if nothing was taken it's called a k*****g!

Actually, it's murder, not k*****g. K*****g is done judiciously, murder is done in the commission of a crime.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Larry the Legend wrote:

Actually, it's murder, not k*****g. K*****g is done judiciously, murder is done in the commission of a crime.

Either way, you both are correct!

F.D.R.

working class stiff wrote:

Didn't even look at the article, did you?

I read the article. Now I don't know who k**led Seth Rich but I wouldn't put my faith in Yahoo News for sure.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Splint any fine hairs lately?

Larry the Legend wrote:

Actually, it's murder, not k*****g. K*****g is done judiciously, murder is done in the commission of a crime.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

bmac32 wrote:

Splint any fine hairs lately?

I won't try stopping you from lumping them together, just hope you don't find yourself on the wrong side of the definition you reject.

Common_Sense_Matters

working class stiff wrote:

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-conspiracy-a-yahoo-news-investigation-100000831.html

This is interesting, considering how many times I've read about the Clintons murdering Mr. Rich on this forum. Oh well....sometimes dreams don't come true.

An interesting take on that story. I read that story too and do not recall anywhere in there that the Russians k**led Seth, they just merely started pushing the conspiracy theory that a "Hillary Clinton hit squad k**led him".

Even though that story doesn't say anything akin to "The Russians k**led Seth", I am just now after reading your take on the story left to wonder, is it possible that they did? What better way to get a nasty conspiracy theory smear campaign going on someone you NEVER want to see as president? K**l someone connected with them, start a smear campaign alleging that the person has a "k**l squad" and that the "k**l squad" k**led the victim and let it snowball on the internet. Something to think about, just not too hard or it could drive you as insane as all these Trumpsters.

Edit: Sorry, I read a bit beyond your post then went back and replied to yours first somehow thinking you suggested the Russians k**led Seth.

Edit #2: Oh wait, the title.

Common_Sense_Matters

lpnmajor wrote:

I like those theories that say that a person committed suicide....................................by multiple gunshots.

Hey, if you are going to take the time to train as a contortionist so that you can shoot yourself in the back or the back of the head, why not keep shooting until you succeed?

Common_Sense_Matters

Pennylynn wrote:

I read the article and it seems to be missing some... (show quote)

Quote:

WASHINGTON — In the summer of 2016, Russian intelligence agents secretly planted a f**e report claiming that Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was gunned down by a squad of assassins working for Hillary Clinton, giving rise to a notorious conspiracy theory that captivated conservative activists and was later promoted from inside President Trump’s White House, a Yahoo News investigation has found.

Russia’s foreign intelligence service, known as the SVR, first circulated a phony “bulletin” — disguised to read as a real intelligence report —about the alleged murder of the former DNC staffer on July 13, 2016, according to the U.S. federal prosecutor who was in charge of the Rich case. That was just three days after Rich, 27, was k**led in what police believed was a botched robbery while walking home to his group house in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Washington, D.C., about 30 blocks north of the Capitol.

The purported details in the SVR account seemed improbable on their face: that Rich, a data director in the DNC’s v**er protection division, was on his way to alert the FBI to corrupt dealings by Clinton when he was slain in the early hours of a Sunday morning by the former secretary of state’s hit squad.

Yet in a graphic example of how f**e news infects the internet, those precise details popped up the same day on an obscure website, whatdoesitmean.com, that is a frequent vehicle for Russian propaganda. The website’s article, which attributed its claims to “Russian intelligence,” was the first known instance of Rich’s murder being publicly linked to a political conspiracy.

“To me, having a foreign intelligence agency set up one of my decedents with lies and planting false stories, to me that’s pretty outrageous,” said Deborah Sines, the former assistant U.S. attorney in charge of the Rich case until her retirement last year. “Maybe other people don’t think it’s that outrageous. I did ... once it became clear to me that this was coming from the SVR, then that triggers a lot of very serious [questions about] ‘What do I do with this?’”

The previously unreported role of Russian intelligence in creating and fostering one of the most insidious conspiracy theories to arise out of the 2016 e******n is disclosed in “Yahoo News presents: Conspiracyland,” a six-part series by the news organization’s podcast “Skullduggery” that debuts this week on the third anniversary of Rich’s murder.

WASHINGTON — b In the summer of 2016, color=red ... (show quote)

There is the beginning of the article, I wanted to do the entirety of the article but it wouldn't fit. That doesn't matter, I have read the whole article twice now and nowhere in that article does it say that the Russians k**led Seth. I pointed out with bold text and in one spot, colored text, the pertinent facts that show that the story IS NOT claiming the Russians K**LED seth, merely that they jumped on the opportunity of his death to smear Hillary. Please feel free to direct me to any portion of the article, short form or long form, that proves my reading of this article was inadequate and that the article DOES say that the Russians actually k**led him.

Common_Sense_Matters

nwtk2007 wrote:

It's not so much that there is a specific conspiracy theory that people believe. We just don't buy into the botched robbery theory when all of the other bits of the circumstances are considered.

I don't recall the specific details that came out immediately following his death but as for botched robberies, if someone happens along while another is robbing a man, the robber may decide to scrap the robbery and bail rather than have to keep k*****g everyone that happens along. Like I said, I can't recall the details of the reports immediately following his death but a botched robbery is definitely not off the table, it does happen.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

I don't recall the specific details that came out immediately following his death but as for botched robberies, if someone happens along while another is robbing a man, the robber may decide to scrap the robbery and bail rather than have to keep k*****g everyone that happens along. Like I said, I can't recall the details of the reports immediately following his death but a botched robbery is definitely not off the table, it does happen.

Which happens most often? Botched robbery or just plain murder??

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

I don't recall the specific details that came out immediately following his death but as for botched robberies, if someone happens along while another is robbing a man, the robber may decide to scrap the robbery and bail rather than have to keep k*****g everyone that happens along. Like I said, I can't recall the details of the reports immediately following his death but a botched robbery is definitely not off the table, it does happen.

Also, he was found dead, not reported to have been seen getting shot by anyone. No suspects based upon a witness.