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Jul 10, 2019 16:47:18   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Meme - Illegal immigrants commit less crime than citizens. Wrong. Illegal immigrants commit a crime every day by being where they do not belong, very much against the law of the land. Without even considering the plethora of other crimes these illegals commit every day, to include robbery, rape, human and drug trafficking, murder, theft, and many. many more. No, they commit much, much more crime than any American citizen would ever consider, and that on a daily basis.




those misdemeanor add up don`t they..

When will we surpass the billion in cost the trump family has cost us up to now..



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Jul 10, 2019 16:51:22   #
nwtk2007 (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Robbed someone, that would be this morning..

trump is 3rd generation crime.. his living has been via crime and he will never every be anything better then a gutter criminal..

Rape,,,could have been last night of when ever he was last able to function..

Drugs.... he gave the green light to big pharma last year and the drugs have been priced ever higher...

vandalize... his presence in the white house vandalizes the entire nation..

Schools...put his cash cow, Betsy DeVos in charge of destruction of our education is over ran by any standard.. shows what he will do for a few hundred million dollars..

free healthcare.. he only wants for himself and the very rich, the rest of us can die in the streets..

taxes.... he has not paid taxes for years...

illegals.... he uses them to staff his resorts and golf clubs..


Since the election Trump has made a multitude of mistakes, horrific actions, embarrassing statements and all but crippled the country’s progress further. Many conservatives I know that simply backed their party’s primary pick have expressed regrets and bailed from the bandwagon. But there are still plenty of people that stayed on and somehow changed the narrative in their head that the bad things happening are good. As Giuliani said, to them “truth isn’t truth”.

Personally, I was appalled that anyone would back Trump to begin with. But I realize most people didn’t do honest research and gave him an extreme amount of leeway on what he said & did because it felt “honest”. At this point, anyone that still supports him are willfully ignorant or outright mean spirited people. None of his remaining supporters that I’ve met can have an honest conversation about Trump without resorting to: 1) What-about-ism, 2) Claiming we “must respect” the sitting president (*cough cough* Obama? *cough cough*), 3) Claiming that the Mueller report somehow clears Trump when it clearly indicates he committed several crimes including Obstruction of Justice.
Robbed someone, that would be this morning.. br ... (show quote)


Great fake news and hardly worth responding to.

I will address one point, and that is how Obama allowed Big pharma to be unchallenged by outside drug companies. He needed their support for Obamacare and that was the price for their support. No outside competition from other drug companies. Also, education oversight at the federal level has been destroying education our schools nationwide for 50 years. Hasn't violated any tax laws; simply takes the deductions and depreciation's he is entitled to. If you don't, you're stupid. He and all rich people pay for their healthcare; probably a lot more than you or I. Vandalize the nation? It is booming in leaps and bounds. LOL!

Figure it out.

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Jul 10, 2019 16:52:38   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
byronglimish wrote:
What do you have going on?


Sitting around on an infected foot.. 2 different invections and did not go see the Doc when I should.

Now the say problems, resistant bugs and fear of amputation..

Spos to stay off the foot for 4 more weeks..

Doctors are nuts.. feel fine, foot hurts only a bit..

But sure puts me in a lousy mood..

Had this right/left countries going for a bit, then had to check for the lean of nations..

lists by the experts are all mixed up.. US is right leaning nation.. differing all over the charts, depending on the expert..

I can not gain in this game.. darn...

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Jul 10, 2019 16:59:25   #
The Critical Critic (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Sitting around on an infected foot.. 2 different invections and did not go see the Doc when I should.

Now the say problems, resistant bugs and fear of amputation..

Spos to stay off the foot for 4 more weeks..

Doctors are nuts.. feel fine, foot hurts only a bit..

But sure puts me in a lousy mood..

Had this right/left countries going for a bit, then had to check for the lean of nations..

lists by the experts are all mixed up.. US is right leaning nation.. differing all over the charts, depending on the expert..

I can not gain in this game.. darn...
Sitting around on an infected foot.. 2 different i... (show quote)


Permafrost, that sucks! I’m so sorry that happened to you. I hope the docs figure something out so you get to keep your foot. If not, you can always get a job at IHOP as a waiter. (Just trying to lighten your mood)

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Jul 10, 2019 17:01:38   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Then why wouldn’t they organize in their own country and attempt to change their country to be more like America?


For the simple reason that their country no longer functions..

only crime cartels, corrupt politicians and war.. dying from climate change if you hide..

No government to engage in for forcing change.. done, gone, unmade, no more, hopeless, no road to wellness.

So, try America, the greatest nation ever..

But they find is was in the past, they missed the boat and the next one sailed..



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Jul 10, 2019 17:04:11   #
nwtk2007 (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
For the simple reason that their country no longer functions..

only crime cartels, corrupt politicians and war.. dying from climate change if you hide..

No government to engage in for forcing change.. done, gone, unmade, no more, hopeless, no road to wellness.

So, try America, the greatest nation ever..

But they find is was in the past, they missed the boat and the next one sailed..


"dying from climate change"????????????

Who is dying from climate change. I know Beto said they were migrating here because of the climate change WE caused. LOLOL! But you don't actually believe his do you??

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Jul 10, 2019 17:04:38   #
The Critical Critic (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
For the simple reason that their country no longer functions..

only crime cartels, corrupt politicians and war.. dying from climate change if you hide..

No government to engage in for forcing change.. done, gone, unmade, no more, hopeless, no road to wellness.

So, try America, the greatest nation ever..

But they find is was in the past, they missed the boat and the next one sailed..


Imagine if colonial America held the same sentiment when King George was running the show.

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Jul 10, 2019 17:04:47   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
No. Not even remotely like that. The statue, when originally given, had absolutely nothing to do with immigration. There was no poem originally part of the statue. Whereas the words to the pledge has always had something to with this country, just as the country had always had to do with a Divine Providence.


And yet it is a world wide symbol, calling for people of other lands to come to the land of the free..

twist as much as you like, that is what the statue is. No matter the original intent..

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Jul 10, 2019 17:07:19   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
byronglimish wrote:
Nicaragua, Honduras.



Estonia, Romania...

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Jul 10, 2019 17:11:00   #
byronglimish (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Estonia, Romania...


California...Oregon.

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Jul 10, 2019 17:11:04   #
Hug (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Sitting around on an infected foot.. 2 different invections and did not go see the Doc when I should.

Now the say problems, resistant bugs and fear of amputation..

Spos to stay off the foot for 4 more weeks..

Doctors are nuts.. feel fine, foot hurts only a bit..

But sure puts me in a lousy mood..

Had this right/left countries going for a bit, then had to check for the lean of nations..

lists by the experts are all mixed up.. US is right leaning nation.. differing all over the charts, depending on the expert..

I can not gain in this game.. darn...
Sitting around on an infected foot.. 2 different i... (show quote)

Hey Frosty, please get a second opinion. Don't just believe one doctor. My doctor is wrong most of the time.

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Jul 10, 2019 17:11:21   #
Larai (a regular here)
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Great fake news and hardly worth responding to.

I will address one point, and that is how Obama allowed Big pharma to be unchallenged by outside drug companies. He needed their support for Obamacare and that was the price for their support. No outside competition from other drug companies. Also, education oversight at the federal level has been destroying education our schools nationwide for 50 years. Hasn't violated any tax laws; simply takes the deductions and depreciation's he is entitled to. If you don't, you're stupid. He and all rich people pay for their healthcare; probably a lot more than you or I. Vandalize the nation? It is booming in leaps and bounds. LOL!

Figure it out.
Great fake news and hardly worth responding to. br... (show quote)


I wonder how much longer that poor donkey pullin that Lib cart can go on.. they all believe their own rhertoric as gospel.. I find it moderately amusing that they swear and be damned Trump doesn't pay taxes.. Just like us... he takes what ever right offs he can..oh and by the way.. perma.. The man has accountants for that 1) and 2) he does not HAVE to provide his tax returns.. just because some do there is no law for that!..

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Jul 10, 2019 17:11:23   #
The Critical Critic (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
And yet it is a world wide symbol, calling for people of other lands to come to the land of the free..

twist as much as you like, that is what the statue is. No matter the original intent..


Me twist!? Lol

That’s precisely what you liberals have done with the statue. Tell a lie often enough, as it’s said.... good Lord.

No different than what y’all do with the Constitution....

Tell me.... in the early days of immigration, did people arrive at Liberty Island, or Ellis Island?

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Jul 10, 2019 17:21:36   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Great fake news and hardly worth responding to.

I will address one point, and that is how Obama allowed Big pharma to be unchallenged by outside drug companies. He needed their support for Obamacare and that was the price for their support. No outside competition from other drug companies. Also, education oversight at the federal level has been destroying education our schools nationwide for 50 years. Hasn't violated any tax laws; simply takes the deductions and depreciation's he is entitled to. If you don't, you're stupid. He and all rich people pay for their healthcare; probably a lot more than you or I. Vandalize the nation? It is booming in leaps and bounds. LOL!

Figure it out.
Great fake news and hardly worth responding to. br... (show quote)




Interesting, do you have a source for your contention on President Obama and big Pharma?

education....how and what do you feel should be included or removed from education.
do you think we should have standers which would make education in every state similar if not
equal?

tax laws are written by the rich for the rich.. the new tax "reform" was for the top of the money heap, one section for real-estate added for the orange con..

Yes, everyone should take advantage of the law.. but the law is for the enrichment of the rich.. not for the middle class..

the changes for the lower and unwashed will be gone in 2025, some before that..
How do you see the nation recovering from that fantastic deficit at that time?

health care, again the bottom pay to balance the need not paid by the rich..

Booming in leaps and bounds.. like that..

so why is that? it is a continuous road created by President Obama. trump gave a mountain of money to himself and the very rich. they used nearly all of it on the stock buy backs.. so he gets the stock market champion which 80% of those stocks are owned by 12% of our population..

Investment and wages.. about 8% of the money used so far..

LOL that off...



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Jul 10, 2019 17:24:36   #
Larry the Legend (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
those misdemeanor add up don`t they..

When will we surpass the billion in cost the trump family has cost us up to now..

What does a silly meme (from facebook, no less) about food stamps have to do with criminal illegal alien activity? Deflecting much? And yes, they do add up, just like any other criminal activities, they are cumulative. As for how much the Trump family has cost 'us' (just who is 'us'?), don't you worry your empty head about it. He has paid more into the Federal coffers over the years than you could make in a hundred lifetimes.

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