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Americans Shocked, Angered: Trump’s Latest GMO Executive Order
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Jul 9, 2019 06:41:04   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
You are basically right AND wrong at the same time. That site IS garbage but it is extreme right wing, NOT left wing.


Why do you continually insist on "attacking the messenger" and not the message?

Whether the site may have a "right wing" or "left wing" slant is irrelevant if what is being reported is accurate.

What do you factually dispute in the following statement made by the Center for Food Safety? - http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/press-releases/5624/cfs-statement-trump-signs-executive-order-to-further-gut-federal-gmo-oversight

"CFS Statement: Trump Signs Executive Order to Further Gut Federal GMO Oversight

Washington, D.C.—On Tuesday, President Trump signed an executive order (EO) directing federal agencies to scale back regulation of genetically engineered organisms, popularly known as GMOs. The EO directs agencies to exempt many GMOs from regulation, and as a result, an increasing number of GMO crops and animals will not be subject to scientific review by any federal agencies. Trump's EO comes just one week after the U.S. Department of Agriculture issued a proposed rule to sharply limit and otherwise weaken regulation of GMOs that fall under its jurisdiction. It also marks the first time President Trump has publicly aligned himself with pesticide-seed companies to promote the cultivation of GMO crops."

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Jul 9, 2019 08:58:42   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
ACP45 wrote:
Richard Rowland brought this article to my attention in his post "5G and Now This". http://newswithviews.com/americans-shocked-angered-trumps-latest-gmo-executive-order/

I don't want to duplicate his efforts, but I felt that a large number of people on OPP who are concerned about GMO's may miss his post.

V*****es, GMO's, 5G.... "Americans have shown time and time again they don’t want GMO garbage and they don’t want to be Monsanto’s guinea pigs.

Remember how when Trump was running for president, he met with Robert F. Kennedy and said he would have him chair a commission to investigate v*****e safety?

Just as with his promised executive order on birthright citizenship before the midterms, his promised v*****e safety commission never materialized."
Richard Rowland brought this article to my attenti... (show quote)




I read about Monsanto long before Trump became president ( No...I'm not taking up for him). What I didn't like was this...a farmer did not want to use GMO seed on his farm. The farm across the street did. Some of the Monsanto seed blew onto the first farms property and grew. Monsanto sued the first farmer and now he MUST buy seed from Monsanto, it being illegal not to. That's un-American to me.
As for Trump, I've always said that if he did anything I didn't like I would say so. I would like more facts about it but I see no way for this to have been a good decision...in other words, I DON'T like it that he signed this bill.
He has satisfied me in the rest of his tenure so I can't condemn him for this one. No president has ever made everybody happy all the time, not by a long shot. I still support him 100%.

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Jul 9, 2019 11:05:15   #
Rose42
 
maximus wrote:
I read about Monsanto long before Trump became president ( No...I'm not taking up for him). What I didn't like was this...a farmer did not want to use GMO seed on his farm. The farm across the street did. Some of the Monsanto seed blew onto the first farms property and grew. Monsanto sued the first farmer and now he MUST buy seed from Monsanto, it being illegal not to. That's un-American to me.


Its not just un-American - its downright criminal and immoral on Monsanto's part.

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Jul 9, 2019 11:05:43   #
Carol Kelly
 
woodguru wrote:
This type of coverage about executive orders and gutting regulations is easy to check and real. It's up to people to check rather than taking the attitude that it might or must be a smear so ignore it. Ignorance is the zone Trump operates in because of people who won't respond to reality we should be worried about.

This is damage Trump is doing to this country and people by undoing regulations meant to keep people safe, there is no reason to allow chemical companies to use the things that are dangerous.
This type of coverage about executive orders and g... (show quote)


The Trump h**ers are destroying this country because they are fueled by h**e. I’m not joining the Trump H**ers and I keep an open mind on every article I read.

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Jul 9, 2019 11:07:07   #
Carol Kelly
 
maximus wrote:
I read about Monsanto long before Trump became president ( No...I'm not taking up for him). What I didn't like was this...a farmer did not want to use GMO seed on his farm. The farm across the street did. Some of the Monsanto seed blew onto the first farms property and grew. Monsanto sued the first farmer and now he MUST buy seed from Monsanto, it being illegal not to. That's un-American to me.
As for Trump, I've always said that if he did anything I didn't like I would say so. I would like more facts about it but I see no way for this to have been a good decision...in other words, I DON'T like it that he signed this bill.
He has satisfied me in the rest of his tenure so I can't condemn him for this one. No president has ever made everybody happy all the time, not by a long shot. I still support him 100%.
I read about Monsanto long before Trump became pre... (show quote)


It’s not all on President Trump, is it?

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Jul 9, 2019 11:44:58   #
kemmer
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
The Trump h**ers are destroying this country because they are fueled by h**e. I’m not joining the Trump H**ers and I keep an open mind on every article I read.

You have that exactly backwards.

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Jul 9, 2019 12:45:52   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
woodguru wrote:
Fear of the unknown is not unfounded fear.

Anyone who doesn't fear a plant that sucks up pesticide and thrives on it is a pure fool. That plants take in nutrients and things in the soil is pure common sense even i***ts can understand. The reason a person who cares about what they eat needs to know whether a product is GMO free is because people should worry about pesticide loving food plants. Anyone who gets into gardening and growing vegetables and fruit usually knows the difference between organic and chemical supplemented produce.

People who care about what they eat should not be at the mercy of i***ts that don't.
Fear of the unknown is not unfounded fear. br br ... (show quote)


Amen brother, preach it.

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Jul 9, 2019 13:05:58   #
JoyV
 
ACP45 wrote:
Richard Rowland brought this article to my attention in his post "5G and Now This". http://newswithviews.com/americans-shocked-angered-trumps-latest-gmo-executive-order/

I don't want to duplicate his efforts, but I felt that a large number of people on OPP who are concerned about GMO's may miss his post.

V*****es, GMO's, 5G.... "Americans have shown time and time again they don’t want GMO garbage and they don’t want to be Monsanto’s guinea pigs.

Remember how when Trump was running for president, he met with Robert F. Kennedy and said he would have him chair a commission to investigate v*****e safety?

Just as with his promised executive order on birthright citizenship before the midterms, his promised v*****e safety commission never materialized."
Richard Rowland brought this article to my attenti... (show quote)


A totally disingenuous relating of what the Executive Order 13874 of June 11, 2019 (not June 12) is about. The title is, "Modernizing the Regulatory Framework for Agricultural Biotechnology Products" It says, "The United States must employ a science-based regulatory system that evaluates products based on human health and safety and potential benefits and risks to the environment." In other words, up to date regulating of the GMOs to take into account modern technology. How well could we regulate GMOs by regulations written for 20th century technology for companies on the cutting edge of modern technology. If you want to prevent companies from finding naively dated loopholes to exploit, you'd be in favor of the EO.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/06/14/2019-12802/modernizing-the-regulatory-framework-for-agricultural-biotechnology-products

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Jul 9, 2019 13:08:17   #
JoyV
 
woodguru wrote:
This type of coverage about executive orders and gutting regulations is easy to check and real. It's up to people to check rather than taking the attitude that it might or must be a smear so ignore it. Ignorance is the zone Trump operates in because of people who won't respond to reality we should be worried about.

This is damage Trump is doing to this country and people by undoing regulations meant to keep people safe, there is no reason to allow chemical companies to use the things that are dangerous.
This type of coverage about executive orders and g... (show quote)


So check it out instead of relying on any article.

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Jul 9, 2019 13:11:16   #
JoyV
 
woodguru wrote:
Fear of the unknown is not unfounded fear.

Anyone who doesn't fear a plant that sucks up pesticide and thrives on it is a pure fool. That plants take in nutrients and things in the soil is pure common sense even i***ts can understand. The reason a person who cares about what they eat needs to know whether a product is GMO free is because people should worry about pesticide loving food plants. Anyone who gets into gardening and growing vegetables and fruit usually knows the difference between organic and chemical supplemented produce.

People who care about what they eat should not be at the mercy of i***ts that don't.
Fear of the unknown is not unfounded fear. br br ... (show quote)


I thought the left was suppose to be pro science. Do you really think companies engineer food plants to suck up pesticides? For what reason? How would it profit them? But that is the sort of education the colleges are giving to the educated left.

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Jul 9, 2019 13:15:14   #
JoyV
 
ACP45 wrote:
Read the Associated Press article - https://www.apnews.com/2895e0f0ef344d16bfcf6f457ed2e759 or the Natural News article - https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-06-12-trump-signs-executive-order-genetically-engineered-food.html

Now are you going to use the "attack the messenger" argument and dismiss those sites as being l*****t slanted, or will you deal with the issue at hand?

"Under the new rules, modern-day GMO corn and soybean crops would have never been subjected to safety testing at all. As AP reports:

Last week, the U.S. Department of Agriculture proposed changing its regulations in a way that would mean much of the genetically modified corn and soy grown in the U.S. today would not necessarily have been subject to special oversight."
Read the Associated Press article - https://www.ap... (show quote)


Don't read ANY article whether left or right if you want to know what is in the EO. Instead of whose story will I willingly be fed whole cloth, READ the EO itself! Is that so hard a concept? Executive Order 13874 of June 11, 2019.

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Jul 9, 2019 13:16:17   #
JoyV
 
ACP45 wrote:
Why do you continually insist on "attacking the messenger" and not the message?

Whether the site may have a "right wing" or "left wing" slant is irrelevant if what is being reported is accurate.

What do you factually dispute in the following statement made by the Center for Food Safety? - http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/press-releases/5624/cfs-statement-trump-signs-executive-order-to-further-gut-federal-gmo-oversight

"CFS Statement: Trump Signs Executive Order to Further Gut Federal GMO Oversight

Washington, D.C.—On Tuesday, President Trump signed an executive order (EO) directing federal agencies to scale back regulation of genetically engineered organisms, popularly known as GMOs. The EO directs agencies to exempt many GMOs from regulation, and as a result, an increasing number of GMO crops and animals will not be subject to scientific review by any federal agencies. Trump's EO comes just one week after the U.S. Department of Agriculture issued a proposed rule to sharply limit and otherwise weaken regulation of GMOs that fall under its jurisdiction. It also marks the first time President Trump has publicly aligned himself with pesticide-seed companies to promote the cultivation of GMO crops."
Why do you continually insist on "attacking t... (show quote)


Yes I dispute it because I read the EO.

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Jul 9, 2019 13:19:10   #
JoyV
 
maximus wrote:
I read about Monsanto long before Trump became president ( No...I'm not taking up for him). What I didn't like was this...a farmer did not want to use GMO seed on his farm. The farm across the street did. Some of the Monsanto seed blew onto the first farms property and grew. Monsanto sued the first farmer and now he MUST buy seed from Monsanto, it being illegal not to. That's un-American to me.
As for Trump, I've always said that if he did anything I didn't like I would say so. I would like more facts about it but I see no way for this to have been a good decision...in other words, I DON'T like it that he signed this bill.
He has satisfied me in the rest of his tenure so I can't condemn him for this one. No president has ever made everybody happy all the time, not by a long shot. I still support him 100%.
I read about Monsanto long before Trump became pre... (show quote)


It's not a bill but an EO. How do you know you don't like him signing it if you hadn't read it? And I'd love to see the court case of your story. Something smells fishy to me for this to happen in the US.

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Jul 9, 2019 14:00:10   #
Auntie Lulu
 
woodguru wrote:
Fear of the unknown is not unfounded fear.

Anyone who doesn't fear a plant that sucks up pesticide and thrives on it is a pure fool. That plants take in nutrients and things in the soil is pure common sense even i***ts can understand. The reason a person who cares about what they eat needs to know whether a product is GMO free is because people should worry about pesticide loving food plants. Anyone who gets into gardening and growing vegetables and fruit usually knows the difference between organic and chemical supplemented produce.

People who care about what they eat should not be at the mercy of i***ts that don't.
Fear of the unknown is not unfounded fear. br br ... (show quote)


Amen and amen! I agree, let the i***ts eat the tainted food, not force everyone to eat it.

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Jul 9, 2019 15:46:35   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
ACP45 wrote:
Why do you continually insist on "attacking the messenger" and not the message?

Whether the site may have a "right wing" or "left wing" slant is irrelevant if what is being reported is accurate.

What do you factually dispute in the following statement made by the Center for Food Safety? - http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/press-releases/5624/cfs-statement-trump-signs-executive-order-to-further-gut-federal-gmo-oversight

"CFS Statement: Trump Signs Executive Order to Further Gut Federal GMO Oversight

Washington, D.C.—On Tuesday, President Trump signed an executive order (EO) directing federal agencies to scale back regulation of genetically engineered organisms, popularly known as GMOs. The EO directs agencies to exempt many GMOs from regulation, and as a result, an increasing number of GMO crops and animals will not be subject to scientific review by any federal agencies. Trump's EO comes just one week after the U.S. Department of Agriculture issued a proposed rule to sharply limit and otherwise weaken regulation of GMOs that fall under its jurisdiction. It also marks the first time President Trump has publicly aligned himself with pesticide-seed companies to promote the cultivation of GMO crops."
Why do you continually insist on "attacking t... (show quote)


I actually don't care if the site is right leaning or left leaning honestly. It is when they aren't factual that I have issues with them. Natural News is another such example of a "garbage" site as they report f**e news too. I will have to read the AP article though.

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