Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

The last census was long and detailed, as I recall. My answers were short and simple. 3, 2 male, 1 female. 2 adults, 1 child. Done. This guy came knocking on the door about four weeks later telling me I didn't complete the census and that there was a government mandate... I told him I had his mandate - right here. He left and didn't return.

Rose42

Lol. There’s no need for a lot of the questions.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

It wanted to know what race we were, how much our incomes were, disabilities, education, how many rooms in our house, rent or buy, on and on. My answer? Nunya. Nunya bidnis. Swivel.

Common_Sense_Matters

And that form had the citizenship question, kind of a moot point, it acted as the long form. The short form is available every year that the census is taken and always has pretty much the same number of questions and the same questions.

Common_Sense_Matters

I did read through that article, it didn't include the 2010 census form PERIOD! they showed from 1870 to 1990. Please tell me where 2010 fits into that time frame. If you had read the article, you would have known that from 2009 to 2016 the American Community Survey DID contain the citizenship question and that was an annual survey, meaning yearly, so was that question needed on the short form census report? The short form was the only form they sent out that year and it NEVER has the citizenship question.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Sorry, I was very tired and sleepy.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

So now, asking if one is a citizen is a r****t thing? Nancy Pelosi says it is Trumps effort to make America white again. How STUPID. Like photo ID's i guess. LOL!!

Carol Kelly

The census is supposed to be a census of citizens. Trump is sooo right on this issue.
I stand by my vow to throw the census in the garbage if citizenship is not required.
It contains statement of race, why not citizenship?

JoyV

Even by their own words, the reason they want the question off the census is clear. "put “more than 4 million people at risk of being undocumented.”" It isn't the question which will make them undocumented. No citizen will loose their citizenship by being asked if they are a citizen. The number of undocumented won't change due to the question. Nor would this question help ICE to locate i******s. The census report will not provide name and addresses but only raw numbers. And just how would the question cause an under count of black or Hispanic citizens?

Are they saying b****s and Hispanics are either ashamed of being citizens so won't answer? Or is the left again making r****t implications that minorities are too stupid to understand that the question will not harm them; just as the left tries to say b****s are less capable of understanding how to go about getting an ID? It is either that or they imply you can't be a citizen if you are a minority. As a minority (American Indian) I am sick and tired of the Democrats patronizing r****t implications that being a member of my race means I am dumb or childishly incapable of taking care of myself! And long gone is the time when Democrats have the law behind them in relegating minorities to a subhuman class!!!!!!!

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

You go, girl!

JoyV

So you too think only certain races are US citizens? Or that only certain races come here illegally? Sorry but it is that attitude which is r****t, NOT the question. And IF the left were really worried about r****t questions in the census, why leave in questions such as Are you Hispanic? What is your ancestry? What language do you speak? And most importantly, "What race are you?" But no, the left says those are not r****t but Are you a citizen? is r****t!

Actually the court rejected the arguments presented by the left as to why the question should not be allowed. But since the question had already been removed, they said the administration would need a more compelling reason to change it <back> than they gave. They left the door open to the administration providing such a reason.

If the removal of the question had been brought before SCOTUS, their response they gave would have denied such a removal. But it is the left who are prone to litigation as a first resort so the removal of the question was not challenged in the Supreme Court. Only the restoration of the question was challenged. But even with the effective outcome, SCOTUS did NOT rule in favor of the arguments against the question. If this ruling had been months before the census forms needed to be printed, it would be considered a loss for the left as their would be time for the administration to meet the requirements of SCOTUS.

JoyV

You wrote, "Adversely affected would be the black conservative v**ers, and conservative b****s running for e******n. " Actually minorities on the left, middle, and right are all adversely affected. This question does not only affect v****g; but schools, taxes, public health, education and infrastructure, and more. State and local funds are often distributed based on population, meaning that every person is important when advocating for funding. The strength of census statistics and data also helps inform many public policy proposals at all levels of government.

It affects reapportionment. Without the question, some states will unfairly lose seats in the House while others unfairly gain seats. Ohio, New York, and Rhode Island will probably lose 2 seats each. Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Minnesota, and Missouri; will probably lose 1 seat each. South Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Utah, Nevada, and Washington; will probably gain a seat. Florida should gain 2 seats. And Texas will gain 4 seats! [Note that many states who will lose seats are against the question, while some, such as TX and AZ; which will gain seats are for the question. Just goes to show that intelligence is not a common trait of governors or politicians as a general rule.]

http://www.yourv**eyourvoicemn.org/future/horizon/census-2020

JoyV

Are you sure you weren't looking at the 2000 alternative experimental form?

Look at question 13 of the 2000 Census questionnaire.
13-- Is this person a CITIZEN of the United States?
Yes, born in the United States → Skip to 15a
Yes, born in Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands,
or Northern Marianas
Yes, born abroad of American parent or parents
Yes, a U.S. citizen by naturalization
No, not a citizen of the United States
https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/d02p.pdf

JoyV

So if it wasn't removed, why the Supreme Court case on whether it could be returned to the census????

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

At the risk of sounding dumb, what does one's race have to do with answering that question??