The Census Citizenship Question (Page 2): Yep, this is the t***h of it that is never openly told. It begs the question "why don't the dem's and the left want to know how many citizens...

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

ACP45 wrote:

"NPR, quoting the Urban Institute, says the c... (show quote)

Yep, this is the t***h of it that is never openly told. It begs the question "why don't the dem's and the left want to know how many citizens there are versus non-citizens. it might be correct that many will refrain from answering the census because they are non-legals but then, are we supposed to provide services for i******s? Should we?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

PeterS wrote:

The only reason for the citizenship question is to force an undercount of minorities living in the United States. It is a question directed at race and why it was squashed by the Supreme Court. It would seem not all of the Conservatives on the court are as r****t as those in the remainder of the country...thank god!

So then, every president except for Obama has been r****t?? I don't think so.

Smedley_buzkill

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Interesting, so, the census taken in 2000 doesn't count? Or was the citizenship question being left off the short form Obama's fault as well? I found the 2000 U.S. census form on the census.gov website, it too doesn't include a citizenship question on the short form. Looks as though NPR didn't get it wrong, zerohedge did.

Source: https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/2000_short_form.pdf

The citizenship question was on the 1950, 1970, 1980, 1990, and 2000 census long form all had the citizenship question and it was never a problem until CA Democraps figured out they could get a couple of more reps in the House at the expense of red states because they have at least 2.8 million wetbacks living there.

Rose42

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Interesting, so, the census taken in 2000 doesn't count? Or was the citizenship question being left off the short form Obama's fault as well? I found the 2000 U.S. census form on the census.gov website, it too doesn't include a citizenship question on the short form. Looks as though NPR didn't get it wrong, zerohedge did.

Source: https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/2000_short_form.pdf

No they didn't get it wrong though they did omit some information like not saying which form they were addressing. There was no long form which had the citizenship question in 2010 and thus no citizenship question. From the npr article -

"Sanders said that in 2010 the citizenship question was removed. In fact, there was no long form that year — it had been replaced by the annual American Community Survey. The decennial census form asked just 10 questions."

Radiance3

nwtk2007 wrote:

Yep, this is the t***h of it that is never openly told. It begs the question "why don't the dem's and the left want to know how many citizens there are versus non-citizens. it might be correct that many will refrain from answering the census because they are non-legals but then, are we supposed to provide services for i******s? Should we?

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That is what's happening now. We provides them food, clothing, medical, and shelter, shelter, security, for the new coming i******s about $70,000/year. How many of them since Jan 2019, about 1 million.

Those already in the US before 2019 about 22 million cost taxpayers estimate of $338 billion per year.

https://www.bdtonline.com/opinion/columns/costs-of-illegal-immigration-demand-significant-reform-measures/article_f3b1cb53-f975-5b00-8fde-a1f71a3eaec6.html

OPINION: WASHINGTON SECRETS
Border surge highest since 2011, currently each i*****l i*******t costs $70,000, 7x deportation price

PeterS

maximus wrote:

I worked in a hotel turned section 8 housing that had a bit over 200 units. ALL of those people had a photo ID. It was no problem for them to get the ID. In fact, a visitor had to have a photo ID just to get into the building. So, what you say is just not true.

Read what I said and then tell me how what you just said was connected? I was talking about the citizenship question, not ID's or section 8 housing. If you want to debate that's fine with me but I can't debate that which makes no sense. Remember that when you reply...

PeterS

nwtk2007 wrote:

Yep, this is the t***h of it that is never openly told. It begs the question "why don't the dem's and the left want to know how many citizens there are versus non-citizens. it might be correct that many will refrain from answering the census because they are non-legals but then, are we supposed to provide services for i******s? Should we?

I would love to know how many i******s reside in this country but if people don't answer--which is what is going to happen--how will we know the number of i******s who reside in our country? As for providing services...the federal government provides nothing for i*****l i*******ts other than what you see being provided at the border right now. If the receive any type of benefit after they have migrated into this country it will be provided at the state level--usually some form of healthcare, education, food stamps, and such. Should they be provide this? It's up to each state to determine what they get if anything. Every state provides something if for no other reason it is to our benefit to have the children of i******s educated and more capable of contributing to our economy.

PeterS

nwtk2007 wrote:

So then, every president except for Obama has been r****t?? I don't think so.

And who said every president was a r****t? This president is a r****t and he is trying to appeal the r****ts who reside in the Republican party.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Interesting, so, the census taken in 2000 doesn't count? Or was the citizenship question being left off the short form Obama's fault as well? I found the 2000 U.S. census form on the census.gov website, it too doesn't include a citizenship question on the short form. Looks as though NPR didn't get it wrong, zerohedge did.

Source: https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/2000_short_form.pdf

CSM - I think you misread the article. It stated that for almost the last 200 years, the census had a question regarding citizenship until President Obama did not include it in the 2010 census. If you read thru the article, you can see the pictures of the various census forms for a number of those years, except 2010.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

PeterS wrote:

And who said every president was a r****t? This president is a r****t and he is trying to appeal the r****ts who reside in the Republican party.

Those who claim the question is r****t, that's who.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

PeterS wrote:

I would love to know how many i******s reside in t... (show quote)

How is the census linked to those who answer the questions? I think name only and that doesn't ID anyone. I'm sure phone number would be optional, don't you? Why wouldn't i******s answer? Their failure to answer would mean less free stuff for i******s, wouldn't it??

Rose42

PeterS wrote:

I would love to know how many i******s reside in t... (show quote)

A lot of people don't bother answering the census. I'd like to know the stats on that too.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

ACP45 wrote:

You do realize that it is already illegal for a non-citizen to v**e in a p**********l e******n, correct? Is that what is really worrying you?

That's what's worrying a lot of Democrats in Washington, for sure. Without the 'illegal' v**e, they'd be sunk.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Rose42 wrote:

A lot of people don't bother answering the census. I'd like to know the stats on that too.

Conservatives mostly.

Rose42

nwtk2007 wrote:

Conservatives mostly.

That wouldn't surprise me.