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The First Truly American Firearm
Jul 5, 2019 18:36:04   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
According to the American Rifleman, the American long rifle, was also known as the “Pennsylvania” rifle because Lancaster and other towns were the “Silicon Valley” of gun innovation during the 1700s, and as the “Kentucky” rifle, because “Kentucky” was the catch-all word used to refer to Virginia’s backcountry.

"Frontiersmen demanded gunsmiths make changes so they were better suited for hunting and for protection, which produced the version of the rifle that became valuable to soldiers." Considering the huge disparity between the British 'Brown Bess' smoothbore musket and the much superior American long rifle, it's hardly surprising that British officers dreaded sk**led American riflemen, who were known to take out targets at 300 yards with the superior weapon, reportedly calling them “widow-makers.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/04/gun-independence-day/

“I never in my life saw better rifles (or men who shot better) than those made in America,” said British Col. George Hanger, who served in South Carolina.

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Jul 5, 2019 19:34:35   #
Candy dog
 
I have shot those weapons 300 yards is stretching things,but they sure a thousand times better than the Bess. They were used in European war ware they stood in rank on the battlefield 50 yards apart and fired at each other till the general's got tired.

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Jul 5, 2019 21:33:01   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
According to the American Rifleman, the American long rifle, was also known as the “Pennsylvania” rifle because Lancaster and other towns were the “Silicon Valley” of gun innovation during the 1700s, and as the “Kentucky” rifle, because “Kentucky” was the catch-all word used to refer to Virginia’s backcountry.

"Frontiersmen demanded gunsmiths make changes so they were better suited for hunting and for protection, which produced the version of the rifle that became valuable to soldiers." Considering the huge disparity between the British 'Brown Bess' smoothbore musket and the much superior American long rifle, it's hardly surprising that British officers dreaded sk**led American riflemen, who were known to take out targets at 300 yards with the superior weapon, reportedly calling them “widow-makers.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/04/gun-independence-day/

“I never in my life saw better rifles (or men who shot better) than those made in America,” said British Col. George Hanger, who served in South Carolina.
According to the American Rifleman, the American l... (show quote)


Don't forget the plainer, more serviceable "Tennessee Rifle" which developed about the same time and was in places more common than the fancier Pennsylvania version.

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Jul 5, 2019 22:31:52   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
According to the American Rifleman, the American long rifle, was also known as the “Pennsylvania” rifle because Lancaster and other towns were the “Silicon Valley” of gun innovation during the 1700s, and as the “Kentucky” rifle, because “Kentucky” was the catch-all word used to refer to Virginia’s backcountry.

"Frontiersmen demanded gunsmiths make changes so they were better suited for hunting and for protection, which produced the version of the rifle that became valuable to soldiers." Considering the huge disparity between the British 'Brown Bess' smoothbore musket and the much superior American long rifle, it's hardly surprising that British officers dreaded sk**led American riflemen, who were known to take out targets at 300 yards with the superior weapon, reportedly calling them “widow-makers.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/04/gun-independence-day/

Go here:https://archive.org/stream/historyofrocki00wayl/historyofrocki00wayl_djvu.txt


“I never in my life saw better rifles (or men who shot better) than those made in America,” said British Col. George Hanger, who served in South Carolina.
According to the American Rifleman, the American l... (show quote)


Interestingly enough, I am descended from a family of gunmakers first in PA then in VA. Google Pennybackers gun smiths.

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Jul 5, 2019 22:41:27   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
Interestingly enough, I am descended from a family of gunmakers first in PA then in VA. Google Pennybackers gun smiths.

Ha! Found 'em! In Rockingham at Brock’s Gap. Hey, alright!

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Jul 5, 2019 23:30:16   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Ha! Found 'em! In Rockingham at Brock’s Gap. Hey, alright!


Delighted to help. My paternal great grandmother was a Pennybacker from Rockingham County, VA .

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Jul 6, 2019 16:23:25   #
GmanTerry
 
Google sure prefers "Pennypacker". Very interesting, thanks.
Semper Fi

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Jul 6, 2019 18:55:04   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
GmanTerry wrote:
Google sure prefers "Pennypacker". Very interesting, thanks.
Semper Fi


Very interesting observation. The progenitor of the Penny bunch in the US spelled his name 'Pannebecker'. There are at least 41 known variations of the name. The Pennybackers migrated first to VA then to TN via WV. There were gun builders in both PA and VA. The family originated in the Netherlands where the name was derived from "tile maker". Hendrick came over from Germany having been born in Flomborn in 1674. He was one of the earliest settlers in Germantown, PA.

It seems like the ones who stayed in PA sort of migrated to the spelling Pennepacker. A governor of PA was Samuel W. Pennypacker. There are thousands of descendents of Hendrick Pannebecker and his spouse Eve Umstat.
You might guess you accidentally hit on one of my main hobbies, genealogy. Have a data base of over 47,000 kinfolks either blood or by marriage. Happy to share any info I might have.

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