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Jun 30, 2019 20:24:51   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
What,,,, pull weeds in my garden.... why do you always get the good sound bites.. darn...


I planted weeds this year. I found some wild carrot last year, collected the seed heads and threw them in my garden . Wild carrot is a weed in my area and now I have a garden full of them. It is an experiment. I do have a few tomato plants and some parsnip.

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Jun 30, 2019 21:50:19   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
crime and gangs in the city are "special interests"... would you explain that one please....

Want to know the real reason crime is so high in the cities??

I kid you not,, that is where the money is.. why would a criminal go elsewhere??


Permi, you made the new guy's point for him with this post.
These violent cities are all run by wealthy democrats who don't give a squirt about those that they are supposed to represent.

You can argue against it all day long, but you can't get around the fact that the most dangerous, violent cities in this nation are controlled by wealthy democrats.

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Jun 30, 2019 23:17:35   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
dalethorn wrote:
I'm Dale, I'm generally conservative, but I have a few classic liberal leanings where those leanings have a long-term viability in the U.S., and are supported by the type of people who believe in the Bill of Rights - particularly the First and Second Amendments. We see both being attacked by liberal fascists and Democrats today.


Welcome Dale...

I'm Kyle, and a Canadian, but also a Conservative...

Hope you enjoy yourself on the OPP...plenty of great folk here... Lefties and Righties...

Take care and play nice

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Jul 1, 2019 08:35:03   #
dalethorn
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Welcome Dale... I'm Kyle, and a Canadian, but also a Conservative... Hope you enjoy yourself on the OPP...plenty of great folk here... Lefties and Righties... Take care and play nice


Thanks! The best I can hope for is to learn new things I didn't know before now.

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Jul 1, 2019 10:57:54   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
dalethorn wrote:
And what money are you talking about? The cities are full of poor people. The rich and upper middle class live in the 'burbs, and employ police who keep them safe.



No, the cities also have people with walking around money..

so many in fact that street crime still goes on , even with the assault by the white collar criminals in our offices everywhere..

Police--- yes, they are the need, I am surprised to hear you mention them..

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Jul 1, 2019 11:09:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
archie bunker wrote:
Permi, you made the new guy's point for him with this post.
These violent cities are all run by wealthy democrats who don't give a squirt about those that they are supposed to represent.

You can argue against it all day long, but you can't get around the fact that the most dangerous, violent cities in this nation are controlled by wealthy democrats.




crips archie... of course you are correct about the crime, but the mayor being democrat has nothing to do with it.

Yes, some cities have had criminals in charge, but it was not because the were dems, then would have been criminal no matter what label the carried..

https://www.thetrace.org/2016/11/homicide-rates-spike-major-cities-democrat-republican-mayors/

Breitbart and other right-leaning outlets have seized on this narrative, with stories that ascribe the surge in violence specifically to Democratic mayoral control.

Some perspective: National murder rates are at their lowest levels in decades. Since 2010, the number of homicides per 100,000 people in the nation has remained steady, fluctuating between a low of 4.4 and and a high of 4.9, year after year. Yet it is also true that after a long decline, murder rates have shot up in many urban areas, including Chicago, Houston, and Baltimore.

So what relationship, if any, is there between the political affiliation of a city’s mayor and the local homicide rate? The Trace examined five years of murder statistics from the 60 largest U.S. cities with populations that exceed 250,000. The analysis found that cities under Republican control were slightly less likely to have experienced an increase in homicides than those run by Democrats — but that the percentage difference, factoring in the very small sample size, is not significant.

Of the cities examined by The Trace, 44 were led by Democratic mayors. Twenty-six, or 59 percent, experienced a spike in their murder rates over that time period. Of the 14 big cities run by Republican mayors, half recorded an increase in homicide rates.

Our dataset excludes any city that had both a Democratic and a Republican mayor over the five-year period, from 2010 to 2015.

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Jul 1, 2019 11:10:16   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
I planted weeds this year. I found some wild carrot last year, collected the seed heads and threw them in my garden . Wild carrot is a weed in my area and now I have a garden full of them. It is an experiment. I do have a few tomato plants and some parsnip.


do not know if we have that wild carrot up here,, must have, we have everyother weed that ever grew..

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Jul 1, 2019 11:15:32   #
dalethorn
 
permafrost wrote:
No, the cities also have people with walking around money..

so many in fact that street crime still goes on , even with the assault by the white collar criminals in our offices everywhere..

Police--- yes, they are the need, I am surprised to hear you mention them..


There are matters of principle and matters of fact. My experience with Leftists is they are quick with facts but short on principles. For example, no real concern about preventable crime.

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Jul 1, 2019 11:17:23   #
dalethorn
 
permafrost wrote:
crips archie... of course you are correct about the crime, but the mayor being democrat has nothing to do with it.

Yes, some cities have had criminals in charge, but it was not because the were dems, then would have been criminal no matter what label the carried..

https://www.thetrace.org/2016/11/homicide-rates-spike-major-cities-democrat-republican-mayors/

Breitbart and other right-leaning outlets have seized on this narrative, with stories that ascribe the surge in violence specifically to Democratic mayoral control.

Some perspective: National murder rates are at their lowest levels in decades. Since 2010, the number of homicides per 100,000 people in the nation has remained steady, fluctuating between a low of 4.4 and and a high of 4.9, year after year. Yet it is also true that after a long decline, murder rates have shot up in many urban areas, including Chicago, Houston, and Baltimore.

So what relationship, if any, is there between the political affiliation of a city’s mayor and the local homicide rate? The Trace examined five years of murder statistics from the 60 largest U.S. cities with populations that exceed 250,000. The analysis found that cities under Republican control were slightly less likely to have experienced an increase in homicides than those run by Democrats — but that the percentage difference, factoring in the very small sample size, is not significant.

Of the cities examined by The Trace, 44 were led by Democratic mayors. Twenty-six, or 59 percent, experienced a spike in their murder rates over that time period. Of the 14 big cities run by Republican mayors, half recorded an increase in homicide rates.

Our dataset excludes any city that had both a Democratic and a Republican mayor over the five-year period, from 2010 to 2015.
crips archie... of course you are correct about th... (show quote)


If any of that were true, what is the raíson d'etre for Black Lives Matter?

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Jul 1, 2019 13:40:49   #
jSmitty45
 
dalethorn wrote:
I'm Dale, I'm generally conservative, but I have a few classic liberal leanings where those leanings have a long-term viability in the U.S., and are supported by the type of people who believe in the Bill of Rights - particularly the First and Second Amendments. We see both being attacked by liberal fascists and Democrats today.


Welcome Dale, hope you won’t be offended by some of the looney liberals on here. Most of them are way off base anyhow, and still howling at the moon cause Hillary lost.
We will welcome your input.

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Jul 1, 2019 13:48:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
dalethorn wrote:
There are matters of principle and matters of fact. My experience with Leftists is they are quick with facts but short on principles. For example, no real concern about preventable crime.



Where in the world do you get such ideas???


got a link??



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Jul 1, 2019 13:51:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
dalethorn wrote:
If any of that were true, what is the raíson d'etre for Black Lives Matter?




What do you know about "black lives matter"? Do you think they do?



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Jul 1, 2019 14:13:13   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
permafrost wrote:
What do you know about "black lives matter"? Do you think they do?


No, we did not need NeoNazi rallies because the behavior of the progressive Marxist who have taken over the Democrat party were very much in line with the beliefs of them so protest rallies were not necessary.

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Jul 1, 2019 15:14:10   #
dalethorn
 
permafrost wrote:
Where in the world do you get such ideas???
got a link??


So you don't understand the difference between facts and principles?

Maybe Plato, Aristotle, Jesus et al should have had to provide links? I think they had good documentation regardless.

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Jul 1, 2019 15:15:36   #
dalethorn
 
permafrost wrote:
What do you know about "black lives matter"? Do you think they do?


I know quite a bit. They're basically commies.

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