Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yeah, Jesus warned us about "wolves in sheep's clothing", but what was it about these wolves that He should sound the alarm? I'll give you a hint: They are not men or women who commit forgivable sins.

Accusing president Trump of r****m is a false accusation.
Accusing him of discrimination is also a false accusation.
Accusing him of separation is ambiguous. What exactly do you mean?
Adultery, lying, and money laundering are forgivable sins.
Accusing him of "a host of other negative things" is meaningless.

There is only one sin that cannot be forgiven.

JediKnight

You are sorely confused if you think its okay to continue committing sins because they are "forgiveable" -that's not how God works. "Do not be deceived for God is not mocked. Wh**ever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."- Galatians 6
-Witnessing Trump calling African countries "s**t holes" and claiming "Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers" is definitely r****m
-Witnessing Trump banning people of color because they worship Islam is definitely discrimination
-Witnessing Trump separate parents and children at the border is both r****m and discrimination
-Adultery, lying, and money laundering are all sins...just because they can be forgiven (which takes serious repentance <which means working very hard not to do those sins again) doesn't make it okay to do them...especially deliberately.
Blade - I understand your thought process, unfortunately, it is horribly skewed. sad.

Hug

DO NOT AGREE!

JediKnight

Cool....isn't it nice to live in a 'free' country where two can disagree?

Hug

Yes it is. I bet you would be a good neighbor.

JediKnight

My neighbors think so....I try very hard to be the example of what I wish to see in others.

Hug

It's fun discussing issues when folks can respectfully disagree, but it is not fun when folks degenerate into the gutter and use disrespectful names for our leaders. I never used foul names for Obama and I get turned off when folks call TRUMP foul names.

JediKnight

Hug: I seriously understand your point. However, I have found, especially on this site, that many seem unable to express themselves without going to the juvenile level -which in turn can cause others to respond in kind....I admit I have been guilty of doing just that...although, I try very hard not too, however, emotions can run deep. Would you believe that every time, right before I open this site I tell myself "stay positive"(?) -and often still find myself slipping. Thank you for the reminder; I don't have to resort to the name calling just because someone else did it....thank you!

Hug

Jedi, I slip all too often and then ask God to forgive me. Lets try to set a good example. Great knowing you.

JediKnight

Yes, once again you are correct! I thank God that He knows my heart, and forgives me my faults when I seriously repent and ask forgiveness. Wishing peace and prosperity for you and your family Hug!

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

The apostle John wrote these verses, I ask that you reflect on them;

1st John 1:8 “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the t***h is not in us.”
1st John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1st John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
If any man sins, he CAN be forgiven.

9,10, and 11 are self explainatory.
1st John 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and h**eth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
1st John 2:10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
1st John 2:11 But he that h**eth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

JediKnight,
Though you have not said so, I assume that you are a Christian. If so, you are my Christian brother. God does not want us to antagonize each other but to respect and love each other. I won't be differing with you any more. As Christians we have much more in common than not.
I'll instead be praying for your health and well being and asking for blessings upon you.
Maximus
David

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

What you are saying then is Jesus' sacrifice on the cross was all for nought.

Do you understand the Messianic prophesies of Isaiah? Do you understand the Seven Words of Jesus as he hung on the Cross? Do you even understand the true heart and soul of Jesus' teachings and his spiritual mission on earth?

Let me put it this way, in a nutshell, God has forgiven men and women far, far worse than Donald Trump. Are you aware of the thousands of prayer groups across America who pray daily for president Trump? Are you aware that president Trump has spoken of our Judeo-Christian God more often in his speeches than any president since Reagan? Surely you must know why president Trump made the historical decision to move the American embassy to the the capitol of Israel.


FYI: If anything is skewed here it is your subjective opinions on the "witnessing" of Trump's sins. In these, you have made some outrageously non-contextual assumptions and you have committed any number of logical fallacies--argumentum ad populum, argumentum ad ignorantiam, ad hominem.

JediKnight

I agree with what you posted. Also, please understand that the bible teaches that we are to "help those in need." The bible further teaches that sometimes we have to 'reprove' our brothers -always in love -not h**e. So, when I disagree with those who post here, I often use biblical verses to try and illustrate my point. I am not God, just fortunate to be called a "son of God." Unfortunately, many will take "help" or "difference of opinion" as criticism -no matter how you phrase it. Jesus warned us that will sometimes be the case -but we are expected to persevere and continue leaning on Him -not our own understanding. Yes, if you are a believer and follower of Christ, you are indeed my brother -and I am happy to meet you! May the grace and peace of Jesus Christ be with you and yours until He returns again!

JediKnight

Blade: I understand a lot more about Scripture than you are aware of. It appears that you and I differ in our understanding of how God views sin. Yes, we all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Yes, MOST sin can be forgiven when the person sincerely repents and makes a concerted effort to not repeat that particular sin. However, many make the mistake of thinking that just because God is gracious and promised to forgive us our sins when we ask that we can just keep on sinning indiscriminately as if we have a free pass to do so. When Trump deliberately utters lie after lie -where is the repentance? When Trump (or anyone for that matter) deliberately uses his people to commit crimes, and then lie, or refuse to testify to cover it up -where is the remorse for defying the laws of God? When Trump discriminates against people of color -even when they are trying to conform to our laws like checking in at the border to request asylum - where is the love and respect for God in that? Are you a member of the Catholic faith by chance? And regarding your final FYI comment, I submit that Trump himself is a fallacy...a strawman and red herring combined....and that sir is sad.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

God does not look favorably upon those who condemn others with highly prejudiced and error ridden accusations. Every accusation you make here is politically biased, obviously driven by ideological dogma. There is nothing spiritual or even decent in it.

If you were a true Christian, one who truly embraces the teachings of Jesus, you would be praying for the leader of our nation, you would be seeking God's forgiveness of the man, you would be appealing to the Holy Spirit to guide him. You would not pass subjective judgement upon him.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."