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Jun 27, 2019 00:59:38   #
fredlott63
 
It’s all about ideas

Our ability to perceive reality is not under our control.
O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Jeremiah 10:23
God and satan can put thoughts in your mind. God appeals to intellect and never contradicts His word. satan appeals to emotion and always opposes God’s word. That is why we should think before we speak or act. Once we say something, it can’t be unsaid. Once we do something, it can’t be undone. How can there be gays and lesbians inside the church? God says in Leviticus 18:22 that men should not have sex. Nature should teach us. The only species of life that practices same sex relationships are humans. There are no gay lions, lesbian tigers, or homosexual gorillas. No one has ever seen two male dogs stuck. Read the 10 commandments in the 20th chapter of Exodus.satan has us believing grace frees us from obeying the law, so it is okay to steal, murder, and commit adultery. But grace doesn’t free us from paying tithes. What’s ironic is tithing is not a commandment.

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Jun 27, 2019 02:58:35   #
PeterS
 
fredlott63 wrote:
It’s all about ideas

Our ability to perceive reality is not under our control.
O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Jeremiah 10:23
God and satan can put thoughts in your mind. God appeals to intellect and never contradicts His word. satan appeals to emotion and always opposes God’s word. That is why we should think before we speak or act. Once we say something, it can’t be unsaid. Once we do something, it can’t be undone. How can there be gays and lesbians inside the church? God says in Leviticus 18:22 that men should not have sex. Nature should teach us. The only species of life that practices same sex relationships are humans. There are no gay lions, lesbian tigers, or homosexual gorillas. No one has ever seen two male dogs stuck. Read the 10 commandments in the 20th chapter of Exodus.satan has us believing grace frees us from obeying the law, so it is okay to steal, murder, and commit adultery. But grace doesn’t free us from paying tithes. What’s ironic is tithing is not a commandment.
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God appeals to intellect? To believe in god one must believe in the supernatural, not the natural. You can't do that by appealing to one's intellect but purely to faith and the HOPE that what you are being told is True. If it's not true then you are screwed. As for homosexual, you can find that in everything from humans to ducks. Man didn't start anything that hasn't been part of nature since day one...

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Jun 27, 2019 03:29:16   #
fredlott63
 
PeterS wrote:
God appeals to intellect? To believe in god one must believe in the supernatural, not the natural. You can't do that by appealing to one's intellect but purely to faith and the HOPE that what you are being told is True. If it's not true then you are screwed. As for homosexual, you can find that in everything from humans to ducks. Man didn't start anything that hasn't been part of nature since day one...


I bet you think you are intelligent. Do you do anything for anyone else.

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Jun 27, 2019 05:47:47   #
PeterS
 
fredlott63 wrote:
I bet you think you are intelligent. Do you do anything for anyone else.

My, my, how quickly we shift the topic and start attacking your opponents. This isn't a question of my intelligence or my benevolence but according to your topic--humans are the only species that display homosexual behavior. And for the record, an idiot can use google and find out that homosexual behavior is common amongst all life forms on this planet. So you apparently have capabilities below that of an idiot else you wouldn't make such claims as "The only species of life that practices same-sex relationships are humans."

Snip>>Six unrelated male gorillas formed an all-male group within the Virunga mountain gorilla population. Frequent homosexual interactions characterized the high cohesiveness of this group. Such homosexual behavior reduced the inter-individual distances and increased the social tension between the two silverbacks in the group. The silverbacks retained “ownership” of the homosexual partners, but competed and fought with each other violently when the partners avoided or ignored their courtship. Neither submissive nor reassurance behavior was noted between the silverbacks. Thus, their relationships may not be explained in terms of dominance and subordinacy. However, the loser-support and mediating behavior observed in the group prevented them from engaging in severe fights...

Had you bothered to use google you would have found out that homosexual behavior is common amongst all primates and since you claim that your god created all life than it is he who is responsible for homosexual behavior displayed by those life forms. So why then do you so-called Christians discriminate against those whom your god created?

In the future why don't you spend less time attacking your opponents and more time attacking their arguments? If you did so that would make you appear more intelligent...

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Jun 27, 2019 06:20:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PeterS wrote:
My, my, how quickly we shift the topic and start attacking your opponents. This isn't a question of my intelligence or my benevolence but according to your topic--humans are the only species that display homosexual behavior. And for the record, an idiot can use google and find out that homosexual behavior is common amongst all life forms on this planet. So you apparently have capabilities below that of an idiot else you wouldn't make such claims as "The only species of life that practices same-sex relationships are humans."

Snip>>Six unrelated male gorillas formed an all-male group within the Virunga mountain gorilla population. Frequent homosexual interactions characterized the high cohesiveness of this group. Such homosexual behavior reduced the inter-individual distances and increased the social tension between the two silverbacks in the group. The silverbacks retained “ownership” of the homosexual partners, but competed and fought with each other violently when the partners avoided or ignored their courtship. Neither submissive nor reassurance behavior was noted between the silverbacks. Thus, their relationships may not be explained in terms of dominance and subordinacy. However, the loser-support and mediating behavior observed in the group prevented them from engaging in severe fights...

Had you bothered to use google you would have found out that homosexual behavior is common amongst all primates and since you claim that your god created all life than it is he who is responsible for homosexual behavior displayed by those life forms. So why then do you so-called Christians discriminate against those whom your god created?

In the future why don't you spend less time attacking your opponents and more time attacking their arguments? If you did so that would make you appear more intelligent...
My, my, how quickly we shift the topic and start a... (show quote)


If I may...

Homosexuality is not common amongst all primates.. Although homosexual behavior is...

Primates like gorillas are family oriented (pack) but only have one dominant male per group.. With a harem of wives...

Other males are forced out of the pack and turn to homosexual actions to release sexual tension...

This is true of numerous mammals that engage in similar pack behaviors...

There has never been a documented case of homosexuality (where two of animals of the same sex prefer each other over members of the opposite sex) in nature....

Sexual aggressiveness amongst social outcasts should not be mistaken for homosexuality...


Hope you are well Peter... Has been a while

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Jun 27, 2019 08:45:26   #
fredlott63
 
PeterS wrote:
My, my, how quickly we shift the topic and start attacking your opponents. This isn't a question of my intelligence or my benevolence but according to your topic--humans are the only species that display homosexual behavior. And for the record, an idiot can use google and find out that homosexual behavior is common amongst all life forms on this planet. So you apparently have capabilities below that of an idiot else you wouldn't make such claims as "The only species of life that practices same-sex relationships are humans."

Snip>>Six unrelated male gorillas formed an all-male group within the Virunga mountain gorilla population. Frequent homosexual interactions characterized the high cohesiveness of this group. Such homosexual behavior reduced the inter-individual distances and increased the social tension between the two silverbacks in the group. The silverbacks retained “ownership” of the homosexual partners, but competed and fought with each other violently when the partners avoided or ignored their courtship. Neither submissive nor reassurance behavior was noted between the silverbacks. Thus, their relationships may not be explained in terms of dominance and subordinacy. However, the loser-support and mediating behavior observed in the group prevented them from engaging in severe fights...

Had you bothered to use google you would have found out that homosexual behavior is common amongst all primates and since you claim that your god created all life than it is he who is responsible for homosexual behavior displayed by those life forms. So why then do you so-called Christians discriminate against those whom your god created?

In the future why don't you spend less time attacking your opponents and more time attacking their arguments? If you did so that would make you appear more intelligent...
My, my, how quickly we shift the topic and start a... (show quote)


The anus doesn't self lubricate. Anal sex without lube is painful. Some lying pervert writes that there are gay animals and you believe him with no proof. You are a useless internet troll. Your arguments are dumb.

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Jun 27, 2019 09:34:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
fredlott63 wrote:
The anus doesn't self lubricate. Anal sex without lube is painful. Some lying pervert writes that there are gay animals and you believe him with no proof. You are a useless internet troll. Your arguments are dumb.


If I may...

The male also produces lubricant.. Often called pre-sperm... Exuded from the tip of the penis... Some evolutionists have theorized that this is to make intercourse easier even when the female is unwilling...

While it can be uncomfortable, anal sex has been documented in a number of species... All mammals... All sexually aggressive...

And Peter's arguments are never dumb... He has a sharp mind... And knows how to form an argument... Although we rarely agree on things

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Jun 28, 2019 21:44:45   #
PeterS
 
fredlott63 wrote:
The anus doesn't self lubricate. Anal sex without lube is painful. Some lying pervert writes that there are gay animals and you believe him with no proof. You are a useless internet troll. Your arguments are dumb.

You believe in a supernatural god, a god who created everything...but, according to you, not homosexuality. The Greeks speak of homosexuality, the Egyptians speak of homosexuality, the Romans speak of homosexuality. Homosexuality has been with us since we first crawled out of the muck...but according to you, it isn't a creation of your god. Very well, since your god is of your creation you might as well have created one that hates homosexuals just as you. This way, your discrimination against homosexuals isn't because of your dislike of them but because it was predicted by your god...

Your god is nothing more than a cover for your bigotry and that's just sad...

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Jun 28, 2019 23:53:11   #
fredlott63
 
PeterS wrote:
You believe in a supernatural god, a god who created everything...but, according to you, not homosexuality. The Greeks speak of homosexuality, the Egyptians speak of homosexuality, the Romans speak of homosexuality. Homosexuality has been with us since we first crawled out of the muck...but according to you, it isn't a creation of your god. Very well, since your god is of your creation you might as well have created one that hates homosexuals just as you. This way, your discrimination against homosexuals isn't because of your dislike of them but because it was predicted by your god...

Your god is nothing more than a cover for your bigotry and that's just sad...
You believe in a supernatural god, a god who creat... (show quote)


Is that all you got?

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