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AP FACT CHECK: The silent partner in Trump's boasts
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Jun 22, 2019 23:14:47   #
rumitoid
 
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has a silent partner behind several of the accomplishments he likes to boast about: Barack Obama.

Despite assailing his Democratic predecessor for waging a "cruel and heartless war on American energy," for example, Trump can brag about U.S. energy supremacy thanks to the sector's growth in the Obama years.

And the Obama-Trump decade is soon to yield an economic record if things stay on track a little longer — the most sustained expansion in U.S. history. Though Trump claims all the credit, the expansion started in Obama's first year, continued through his presidency and has been maintained under Trump.

There are no fist bumps in the offing, however.

The past week saw the kickoff of Trump's 2020 campaign with a rally in Florida. That and other events provided Trump a platform that he used to exaggerate what he's done, take some factually challenged swipes at Obama and Democrats at large, and make promises that will be hard to keep. Read here for the complete report: https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html

A sampling:

MIGRANTS

TRUMP, on separating children from adults at the Mexican border: "When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn't have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I'm the one that brought 'em together. Now, I said something when I did that. I'm the one that put people together. ... They separated. I put 'em together.' — interview with Telemundo broadcast Thursday.

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, interviewer: "You did not."

THE FACTS: Trump is not telling the t***h. The separation of thousands of migrant children from their parents resulted from his "zero tolerance" policy. Obama had no such policy. After a public uproar and under a court order, Trump ceased the separations.

Zero tolerance meant that U.S. authorities would criminally prosecute all adults caught crossing into the U.S. illegally. Doing so meant detention for adults and the removal of their children while their parents were in custody. During the Obama administration, such family separations were the exception. They became the practice under Trump's policy, which he suspended a year ago.

Before Trump's zero-tolerance policy, migrant families caught illegally entering the U.S. were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation, unless they were known to have a criminal record. Then and now, immigration officials may take a child from a parent in certain cases, such as serious criminal charges against a parent, concerns over the health and welfare of a child or medical concerns.

___

TRUMP on detention centers at the border: "President Obama is the one that built those prison cells." — Telemundo interview.

THE FACTS: He has a point. Whether they are called prison cells or something else, Obama held children in temporary, ill-equipped facilities and built a large center in McAllen, Texas, that is used now.

Democrats routinely and inaccurately blame Trump for creating "cages" for children. They are actually referring to chain-link fencing inside the McAllen center — Obama's creation.

Conditions for detained migrants deteriorated sharply during a surge of Central American arrivals under Trump, particularly in El Paso, Texas.

___

TRADE

TRUMP: "This will be the largest trade deal ever made, and it won't even be close. If you take a look at the numbers, second is so far away, you don't even call it second. So it's very exciting. And very exciting for Mexico; very exciting for Canada." — remarks Thursday with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

THE FACTS: That's wrong, simply by virtue of the number of trade partners involved.

The proposed new agreement, replacing the North American Free Trade agreement, covers the same three countries. The T***s-Pacific Partnership, negotiated by the Obama administration, included the three NAFTA partners — United States, Canada and Mexico — plus Japan and eight other Pacific Rim countries. Trump withdrew the United States from the pact on his third day in office.

Even the Pacific deal pales in comparison with one that did go into effect with the U.S. on board, the Uruguay Round. Concluded in 1994, the round of negotiations created the World Trade Organization and was signed by 123 countries. The Federal Reserve Bank of Boston said the WTO's initial membership accounted for more than 90 percent of global economic output.

___

TRUMP on his tariffs: "We are taking in billions and billions of dollars into our treasury. ... We have never taken 10 cents from China." — rally Tuesday in Orlando, Florida.

THE FACTS: It's false to say the U.S. never collected a dime in tariffs on Chinese goods before he took action. They are simply higher in some cases than they were before. It's also wrong to suggest that the tariffs are being paid by China. Tariff money coming into the treasury is mainly from U.S. businesses and consumers, not from China. Tariffs are primarily if not entirely a tax paid domestically.

___

IRAN

TRUMP: "President Obama made a desperate and terrible deal with Iran - Gave them 150 Billion Dollars plus I.8 Billion Dollars in CASH! Iran was in big trouble and he bailed them out. Gave them a free path to Nuclear Weapons, and SOON. Instead of saying thank you, Iran yelled ... Death to America. I terminated deal." — tweet Friday.

TRUMP, on his accomplishments: "And then terminating one of the worst deals ever made, the Iran deal that was made by President Obama — paid $150 billion. Paid $1.8 billion in cash. I terminated that and Iran is a much different country." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury. The money he refers to represents Iranian assets held abroad that were frozen until the international deal was reached and Tehran was allowed to access its funds.

The payout of about $1.8 billion is a separate matter. That dates to the 1970s, when Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was o*******wn and diplomatic relations ruptured.

That left people, businesses and governments in each country indebted to partners in the other, and these complex claims took decades to sort out in tribunals and arbitration. For its part, Iran paid settlements of more than $2.5 billion to U.S. citizens and businesses.

The day after the nuclear deal was implemented, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the claim over the 1970s military equipment order, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump's dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.

___

ENERGY

TRUMP: "We've ended the last administration's cruel and heartless war on American energy. What they were doing to our energy should never be forgotten. The United States is now the No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world." — Orlando rally.

TRUMP: "We're now No. 1 in the world in energy." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: As he's done many times before, Trump is crediting himself with things that happened under Obama.

Here's what the government's U.S. Energy Information Administration says: "The United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2009, when U.S. natural gas production surpassed that of Russia, and the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013, when U.S. production exceeded Saudi Arabia's."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html
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Jun 22, 2019 23:23:23   #
son of witless
 
rumitoid wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has a silent partner behind several of the accomplishments he likes to boast about: Barack Obama.

Despite assailing his Democratic predecessor for waging a "cruel and heartless war on American energy," for example, Trump can brag about U.S. energy supremacy thanks to the sector's growth in the Obama years.

And the Obama-Trump decade is soon to yield an economic record if things stay on track a little longer — the most sustained expansion in U.S. history. Though Trump claims all the credit, the expansion started in Obama's first year, continued through his presidency and has been maintained under Trump.

There are no fist bumps in the offing, however.

The past week saw the kickoff of Trump's 2020 campaign with a rally in Florida. That and other events provided Trump a platform that he used to exaggerate what he's done, take some factually challenged swipes at Obama and Democrats at large, and make promises that will be hard to keep. Read here for the complete report: https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html

A sampling:

MIGRANTS

TRUMP, on separating children from adults at the Mexican border: "When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn't have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I'm the one that brought 'em together. Now, I said something when I did that. I'm the one that put people together. ... They separated. I put 'em together.' — interview with Telemundo broadcast Thursday.

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, interviewer: "You did not."

THE FACTS: Trump is not telling the t***h. The separation of thousands of migrant children from their parents resulted from his "zero tolerance" policy. Obama had no such policy. After a public uproar and under a court order, Trump ceased the separations.

Zero tolerance meant that U.S. authorities would criminally prosecute all adults caught crossing into the U.S. illegally. Doing so meant detention for adults and the removal of their children while their parents were in custody. During the Obama administration, such family separations were the exception. They became the practice under Trump's policy, which he suspended a year ago.

Before Trump's zero-tolerance policy, migrant families caught illegally entering the U.S. were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation, unless they were known to have a criminal record. Then and now, immigration officials may take a child from a parent in certain cases, such as serious criminal charges against a parent, concerns over the health and welfare of a child or medical concerns.

___

TRUMP on detention centers at the border: "President Obama is the one that built those prison cells." — Telemundo interview.

THE FACTS: He has a point. Whether they are called prison cells or something else, Obama held children in temporary, ill-equipped facilities and built a large center in McAllen, Texas, that is used now.

Democrats routinely and inaccurately blame Trump for creating "cages" for children. They are actually referring to chain-link fencing inside the McAllen center — Obama's creation.

Conditions for detained migrants deteriorated sharply during a surge of Central American arrivals under Trump, particularly in El Paso, Texas.

___

TRADE

TRUMP: "This will be the largest trade deal ever made, and it won't even be close. If you take a look at the numbers, second is so far away, you don't even call it second. So it's very exciting. And very exciting for Mexico; very exciting for Canada." — remarks Thursday with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

THE FACTS: That's wrong, simply by virtue of the number of trade partners involved.

The proposed new agreement, replacing the North American Free Trade agreement, covers the same three countries. The T***s-Pacific Partnership, negotiated by the Obama administration, included the three NAFTA partners — United States, Canada and Mexico — plus Japan and eight other Pacific Rim countries. Trump withdrew the United States from the pact on his third day in office.

Even the Pacific deal pales in comparison with one that did go into effect with the U.S. on board, the Uruguay Round. Concluded in 1994, the round of negotiations created the World Trade Organization and was signed by 123 countries. The Federal Reserve Bank of Boston said the WTO's initial membership accounted for more than 90 percent of global economic output.

___

TRUMP on his tariffs: "We are taking in billions and billions of dollars into our treasury. ... We have never taken 10 cents from China." — rally Tuesday in Orlando, Florida.

THE FACTS: It's false to say the U.S. never collected a dime in tariffs on Chinese goods before he took action. They are simply higher in some cases than they were before. It's also wrong to suggest that the tariffs are being paid by China. Tariff money coming into the treasury is mainly from U.S. businesses and consumers, not from China. Tariffs are primarily if not entirely a tax paid domestically.

___

IRAN

TRUMP: "President Obama made a desperate and terrible deal with Iran - Gave them 150 Billion Dollars plus I.8 Billion Dollars in CASH! Iran was in big trouble and he bailed them out. Gave them a free path to Nuclear Weapons, and SOON. Instead of saying thank you, Iran yelled ... Death to America. I terminated deal." — tweet Friday.

TRUMP, on his accomplishments: "And then terminating one of the worst deals ever made, the Iran deal that was made by President Obama — paid $150 billion. Paid $1.8 billion in cash. I terminated that and Iran is a much different country." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury. The money he refers to represents Iranian assets held abroad that were frozen until the international deal was reached and Tehran was allowed to access its funds.

The payout of about $1.8 billion is a separate matter. That dates to the 1970s, when Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was o*******wn and diplomatic relations ruptured.

That left people, businesses and governments in each country indebted to partners in the other, and these complex claims took decades to sort out in tribunals and arbitration. For its part, Iran paid settlements of more than $2.5 billion to U.S. citizens and businesses.

The day after the nuclear deal was implemented, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the claim over the 1970s military equipment order, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump's dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.

___

ENERGY

TRUMP: "We've ended the last administration's cruel and heartless war on American energy. What they were doing to our energy should never be forgotten. The United States is now the No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world." — Orlando rally.

TRUMP: "We're now No. 1 in the world in energy." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: As he's done many times before, Trump is crediting himself with things that happened under Obama.

Here's what the government's U.S. Energy Information Administration says: "The United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2009, when U.S. natural gas production surpassed that of Russia, and the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013, when U.S. production exceeded Saudi Arabia's."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has a sil... (show quote)


So if something goes wrong during Trump's Presidency, will his silent partner share the blame ?

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Jun 22, 2019 23:24:55   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Good posting, Rumi.

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Jun 22, 2019 23:25:38   #
rumitoid
 
rumitoid wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has a silent partner behind several of the accomplishments he likes to boast about: Barack Obama.

Despite assailing his Democratic predecessor for waging a "cruel and heartless war on American energy," for example, Trump can brag about U.S. energy supremacy thanks to the sector's growth in the Obama years.

And the Obama-Trump decade is soon to yield an economic record if things stay on track a little longer — the most sustained expansion in U.S. history. Though Trump claims all the credit, the expansion started in Obama's first year, continued through his presidency and has been maintained under Trump.

There are no fist bumps in the offing, however.

The past week saw the kickoff of Trump's 2020 campaign with a rally in Florida. That and other events provided Trump a platform that he used to exaggerate what he's done, take some factually challenged swipes at Obama and Democrats at large, and make promises that will be hard to keep. Read here for the complete report: https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html

A sampling: Here is the site to verify https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html

MIGRANTS

TRUMP, on separating children from adults at the Mexican border: "When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn't have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I'm the one that brought 'em together. Now, I said something when I did that. I'm the one that put people together. ... They separated. I put 'em together.' — interview with Telemundo broadcast Thursday.

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, interviewer: "You did not."

THE FACTS: Trump is not telling the t***h. The separation of thousands of migrant children from their parents resulted from his "zero tolerance" policy. Obama had no such policy. After a public uproar and under a court order, Trump ceased the separations.

Zero tolerance meant that U.S. authorities would criminally prosecute all adults caught crossing into the U.S. illegally. Doing so meant detention for adults and the removal of their children while their parents were in custody. During the Obama administration, such family separations were the exception. They became the practice under Trump's policy, which he suspended a year ago.

Before Trump's zero-tolerance policy, migrant families caught illegally entering the U.S. were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation, unless they were known to have a criminal record. Then and now, immigration officials may take a child from a parent in certain cases, such as serious criminal charges against a parent, concerns over the health and welfare of a child or medical concerns.

___

TRUMP on detention centers at the border: "President Obama is the one that built those prison cells." — Telemundo interview.

THE FACTS: He has a point. Whether they are called prison cells or something else, Obama held children in temporary, ill-equipped facilities and built a large center in McAllen, Texas, that is used now.

Democrats routinely and inaccurately blame Trump for creating "cages" for children. They are actually referring to chain-link fencing inside the McAllen center — Obama's creation.

Conditions for detained migrants deteriorated sharply during a surge of Central American arrivals under Trump, particularly in El Paso, Texas.

___

TRADE

TRUMP: "This will be the largest trade deal ever made, and it won't even be close. If you take a look at the numbers, second is so far away, you don't even call it second. So it's very exciting. And very exciting for Mexico; very exciting for Canada." — remarks Thursday with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

THE FACTS: That's wrong, simply by virtue of the number of trade partners involved.

The proposed new agreement, replacing the North American Free Trade agreement, covers the same three countries. The T***s-Pacific Partnership, negotiated by the Obama administration, included the three NAFTA partners — United States, Canada and Mexico — plus Japan and eight other Pacific Rim countries. Trump withdrew the United States from the pact on his third day in office.

Even the Pacific deal pales in comparison with one that did go into effect with the U.S. on board, the Uruguay Round. Concluded in 1994, the round of negotiations created the World Trade Organization and was signed by 123 countries. The Federal Reserve Bank of Boston said the WTO's initial membership accounted for more than 90 percent of global economic output.

___

TRUMP on his tariffs: "We are taking in billions and billions of dollars into our treasury. ... We have never taken 10 cents from China." — rally Tuesday in Orlando, Florida.

THE FACTS: It's false to say the U.S. never collected a dime in tariffs on Chinese goods before he took action. They are simply higher in some cases than they were before. It's also wrong to suggest that the tariffs are being paid by China. Tariff money coming into the treasury is mainly from U.S. businesses and consumers, not from China. Tariffs are primarily if not entirely a tax paid domestically.

___

IRAN

TRUMP: "President Obama made a desperate and terrible deal with Iran - Gave them 150 Billion Dollars plus I.8 Billion Dollars in CASH! Iran was in big trouble and he bailed them out. Gave them a free path to Nuclear Weapons, and SOON. Instead of saying thank you, Iran yelled ... Death to America. I terminated deal." — tweet Friday.

TRUMP, on his accomplishments: "And then terminating one of the worst deals ever made, the Iran deal that was made by President Obama — paid $150 billion. Paid $1.8 billion in cash. I terminated that and Iran is a much different country." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury. The money he refers to represents Iranian assets held abroad that were frozen until the international deal was reached and Tehran was allowed to access its funds.

The payout of about $1.8 billion is a separate matter. That dates to the 1970s, when Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was o*******wn and diplomatic relations ruptured.

That left people, businesses and governments in each country indebted to partners in the other, and these complex claims took decades to sort out in tribunals and arbitration. For its part, Iran paid settlements of more than $2.5 billion to U.S. citizens and businesses.

The day after the nuclear deal was implemented, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the claim over the 1970s military equipment order, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump's dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.

___

ENERGY

TRUMP: "We've ended the last administration's cruel and heartless war on American energy. What they were doing to our energy should never be forgotten. The United States is now the No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world." — Orlando rally.

TRUMP: "We're now No. 1 in the world in energy." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: As he's done many times before, Trump is crediting himself with things that happened under Obama.

Here's what the government's U.S. Energy Information Administration says: "The United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2009, when U.S. natural gas production surpassed that of Russia, and the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013, when U.S. production exceeded Saudi Arabia's."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has a sil... (show quote)

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Jun 23, 2019 01:37:41   #
eden
 
rumitoid wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has a silent partner behind several of the accomplishments he likes to boast about: Barack Obama.

Despite assailing his Democratic predecessor for waging a "cruel and heartless war on American energy," for example, Trump can brag about U.S. energy supremacy thanks to the sector's growth in the Obama years.

And the Obama-Trump decade is soon to yield an economic record if things stay on track a little longer — the most sustained expansion in U.S. history. Though Trump claims all the credit, the expansion started in Obama's first year, continued through his presidency and has been maintained under Trump.

There are no fist bumps in the offing, however.

The past week saw the kickoff of Trump's 2020 campaign with a rally in Florida. That and other events provided Trump a platform that he used to exaggerate what he's done, take some factually challenged swipes at Obama and Democrats at large, and make promises that will be hard to keep. Read here for the complete report: https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html

A sampling:

MIGRANTS

TRUMP, on separating children from adults at the Mexican border: "When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn't have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I'm the one that brought 'em together. Now, I said something when I did that. I'm the one that put people together. ... They separated. I put 'em together.' — interview with Telemundo broadcast Thursday.

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, interviewer: "You did not."

THE FACTS: Trump is not telling the t***h. The separation of thousands of migrant children from their parents resulted from his "zero tolerance" policy. Obama had no such policy. After a public uproar and under a court order, Trump ceased the separations.

Zero tolerance meant that U.S. authorities would criminally prosecute all adults caught crossing into the U.S. illegally. Doing so meant detention for adults and the removal of their children while their parents were in custody. During the Obama administration, such family separations were the exception. They became the practice under Trump's policy, which he suspended a year ago.

Before Trump's zero-tolerance policy, migrant families caught illegally entering the U.S. were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation, unless they were known to have a criminal record. Then and now, immigration officials may take a child from a parent in certain cases, such as serious criminal charges against a parent, concerns over the health and welfare of a child or medical concerns.

___

TRUMP on detention centers at the border: "President Obama is the one that built those prison cells." — Telemundo interview.

THE FACTS: He has a point. Whether they are called prison cells or something else, Obama held children in temporary, ill-equipped facilities and built a large center in McAllen, Texas, that is used now.

Democrats routinely and inaccurately blame Trump for creating "cages" for children. They are actually referring to chain-link fencing inside the McAllen center — Obama's creation.

Conditions for detained migrants deteriorated sharply during a surge of Central American arrivals under Trump, particularly in El Paso, Texas.

___

TRADE

TRUMP: "This will be the largest trade deal ever made, and it won't even be close. If you take a look at the numbers, second is so far away, you don't even call it second. So it's very exciting. And very exciting for Mexico; very exciting for Canada." — remarks Thursday with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

THE FACTS: That's wrong, simply by virtue of the number of trade partners involved.

The proposed new agreement, replacing the North American Free Trade agreement, covers the same three countries. The T***s-Pacific Partnership, negotiated by the Obama administration, included the three NAFTA partners — United States, Canada and Mexico — plus Japan and eight other Pacific Rim countries. Trump withdrew the United States from the pact on his third day in office.

Even the Pacific deal pales in comparison with one that did go into effect with the U.S. on board, the Uruguay Round. Concluded in 1994, the round of negotiations created the World Trade Organization and was signed by 123 countries. The Federal Reserve Bank of Boston said the WTO's initial membership accounted for more than 90 percent of global economic output.

___

TRUMP on his tariffs: "We are taking in billions and billions of dollars into our treasury. ... We have never taken 10 cents from China." — rally Tuesday in Orlando, Florida.

THE FACTS: It's false to say the U.S. never collected a dime in tariffs on Chinese goods before he took action. They are simply higher in some cases than they were before. It's also wrong to suggest that the tariffs are being paid by China. Tariff money coming into the treasury is mainly from U.S. businesses and consumers, not from China. Tariffs are primarily if not entirely a tax paid domestically.

___

IRAN

TRUMP: "President Obama made a desperate and terrible deal with Iran - Gave them 150 Billion Dollars plus I.8 Billion Dollars in CASH! Iran was in big trouble and he bailed them out. Gave them a free path to Nuclear Weapons, and SOON. Instead of saying thank you, Iran yelled ... Death to America. I terminated deal." — tweet Friday.

TRUMP, on his accomplishments: "And then terminating one of the worst deals ever made, the Iran deal that was made by President Obama — paid $150 billion. Paid $1.8 billion in cash. I terminated that and Iran is a much different country." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury. The money he refers to represents Iranian assets held abroad that were frozen until the international deal was reached and Tehran was allowed to access its funds.

The payout of about $1.8 billion is a separate matter. That dates to the 1970s, when Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was o*******wn and diplomatic relations ruptured.

That left people, businesses and governments in each country indebted to partners in the other, and these complex claims took decades to sort out in tribunals and arbitration. For its part, Iran paid settlements of more than $2.5 billion to U.S. citizens and businesses.

The day after the nuclear deal was implemented, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the claim over the 1970s military equipment order, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump's dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.

___

ENERGY

TRUMP: "We've ended the last administration's cruel and heartless war on American energy. What they were doing to our energy should never be forgotten. The United States is now the No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world." — Orlando rally.

TRUMP: "We're now No. 1 in the world in energy." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: As he's done many times before, Trump is crediting himself with things that happened under Obama.

Here's what the government's U.S. Energy Information Administration says: "The United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2009, when U.S. natural gas production surpassed that of Russia, and the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013, when U.S. production exceeded Saudi Arabia's."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has a sil... (show quote)



What are mere facts in the age of trumpmania?

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Jun 23, 2019 09:23:06   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
rumitoid wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has a silent partner behind several of the accomplishments he likes to boast about: Barack Obama.

Despite assailing his Democratic predecessor for waging a "cruel and heartless war on American energy," for example, Trump can brag about U.S. energy supremacy thanks to the sector's growth in the Obama years.

And the Obama-Trump decade is soon to yield an economic record if things stay on track a little longer — the most sustained expansion in U.S. history. Though Trump claims all the credit, the expansion started in Obama's first year, continued through his presidency and has been maintained under Trump.

There are no fist bumps in the offing, however.

The past week saw the kickoff of Trump's 2020 campaign with a rally in Florida. That and other events provided Trump a platform that he used to exaggerate what he's done, take some factually challenged swipes at Obama and Democrats at large, and make promises that will be hard to keep. Read here for the complete report: https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html

A sampling:

MIGRANTS

TRUMP, on separating children from adults at the Mexican border: "When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn't have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I'm the one that brought 'em together. Now, I said something when I did that. I'm the one that put people together. ... They separated. I put 'em together.' — interview with Telemundo broadcast Thursday.

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, interviewer: "You did not."

THE FACTS: Trump is not telling the t***h. The separation of thousands of migrant children from their parents resulted from his "zero tolerance" policy. Obama had no such policy. After a public uproar and under a court order, Trump ceased the separations.

Zero tolerance meant that U.S. authorities would criminally prosecute all adults caught crossing into the U.S. illegally. Doing so meant detention for adults and the removal of their children while their parents were in custody. During the Obama administration, such family separations were the exception. They became the practice under Trump's policy, which he suspended a year ago.

Before Trump's zero-tolerance policy, migrant families caught illegally entering the U.S. were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation, unless they were known to have a criminal record. Then and now, immigration officials may take a child from a parent in certain cases, such as serious criminal charges against a parent, concerns over the health and welfare of a child or medical concerns.

___

TRUMP on detention centers at the border: "President Obama is the one that built those prison cells." — Telemundo interview.

THE FACTS: He has a point. Whether they are called prison cells or something else, Obama held children in temporary, ill-equipped facilities and built a large center in McAllen, Texas, that is used now.

Democrats routinely and inaccurately blame Trump for creating "cages" for children. They are actually referring to chain-link fencing inside the McAllen center — Obama's creation.

Conditions for detained migrants deteriorated sharply during a surge of Central American arrivals under Trump, particularly in El Paso, Texas.

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TRADE

TRUMP: "This will be the largest trade deal ever made, and it won't even be close. If you take a look at the numbers, second is so far away, you don't even call it second. So it's very exciting. And very exciting for Mexico; very exciting for Canada." — remarks Thursday with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

THE FACTS: That's wrong, simply by virtue of the number of trade partners involved.

The proposed new agreement, replacing the North American Free Trade agreement, covers the same three countries. The T***s-Pacific Partnership, negotiated by the Obama administration, included the three NAFTA partners — United States, Canada and Mexico — plus Japan and eight other Pacific Rim countries. Trump withdrew the United States from the pact on his third day in office.

Even the Pacific deal pales in comparison with one that did go into effect with the U.S. on board, the Uruguay Round. Concluded in 1994, the round of negotiations created the World Trade Organization and was signed by 123 countries. The Federal Reserve Bank of Boston said the WTO's initial membership accounted for more than 90 percent of global economic output.

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TRUMP on his tariffs: "We are taking in billions and billions of dollars into our treasury. ... We have never taken 10 cents from China." — rally Tuesday in Orlando, Florida.

THE FACTS: It's false to say the U.S. never collected a dime in tariffs on Chinese goods before he took action. They are simply higher in some cases than they were before. It's also wrong to suggest that the tariffs are being paid by China. Tariff money coming into the treasury is mainly from U.S. businesses and consumers, not from China. Tariffs are primarily if not entirely a tax paid domestically.

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IRAN

TRUMP: "President Obama made a desperate and terrible deal with Iran - Gave them 150 Billion Dollars plus I.8 Billion Dollars in CASH! Iran was in big trouble and he bailed them out. Gave them a free path to Nuclear Weapons, and SOON. Instead of saying thank you, Iran yelled ... Death to America. I terminated deal." — tweet Friday.

TRUMP, on his accomplishments: "And then terminating one of the worst deals ever made, the Iran deal that was made by President Obama — paid $150 billion. Paid $1.8 billion in cash. I terminated that and Iran is a much different country." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury. The money he refers to represents Iranian assets held abroad that were frozen until the international deal was reached and Tehran was allowed to access its funds.

The payout of about $1.8 billion is a separate matter. That dates to the 1970s, when Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was o*******wn and diplomatic relations ruptured.

That left people, businesses and governments in each country indebted to partners in the other, and these complex claims took decades to sort out in tribunals and arbitration. For its part, Iran paid settlements of more than $2.5 billion to U.S. citizens and businesses.

The day after the nuclear deal was implemented, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the claim over the 1970s military equipment order, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump's dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.

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ENERGY

TRUMP: "We've ended the last administration's cruel and heartless war on American energy. What they were doing to our energy should never be forgotten. The United States is now the No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world." — Orlando rally.

TRUMP: "We're now No. 1 in the world in energy." — Fox News interview Wednesday.

THE FACTS: As he's done many times before, Trump is crediting himself with things that happened under Obama.

Here's what the government's U.S. Energy Information Administration says: "The United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2009, when U.S. natural gas production surpassed that of Russia, and the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013, when U.S. production exceeded Saudi Arabia's."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-silent-partner-120134088.html
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Obama’s Misleading Oil Boast
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/11/obamas-misleading-oil-boast/
"That was one thing there. Yes, President Obama did have some family separation policies, and, yes, some of those early images were from the Obama administration.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/438114-fox-newss-shep-smith-corrects-trump-for-saying-obama-first-separated-children

The benefits of tariffs are uneven. Because a tariff is a tax, the government will see increased revenue as imports enter the domestic market. Domestic industries also benefit from a reduction in competition, since import prices are artificially inflated.Dec 25, 2018
A tariff is a tax imposed by a government on goods and services imported from other countries that serve to increase the price and make imports less desirable, or at least less competitive, versus domestic goods and services.

Obama administration sold a bad Iran nuclear deal to the American public
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/05/08/obama-administration-sold-bad-iran-nuclear-deal-editorials-debates/34700171/

The United States is now the largest global crude oil producer
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=37053
According to this year's BP Statistical Review of World Energy, in 2017 the U.S. ranked:

#1 in total energy production
#1 in oil production
#1 in natural gas production
#1 in nuclear power
#1 in geothermal power
#1 in biofuels
#2 in wind power
#2 in solar power
#2 in coal production
#4 in hydropower

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Jun 23, 2019 10:37:38   #
JediKnight
 
son of witless wrote:
So if something goes wrong during Trump's Presidency, will his silent partner share the blame ?


No need....Trump blames Obama for Trump's own shortcomings each and everyday....and don't forget Hillary's emails!

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Jun 23, 2019 10:38:37   #
JediKnight
 
Condensed T***slation: Trump is a pathetic, habitual liar incapable of making his own deals, but super quick to take credit from anyone else. period.

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Jun 23, 2019 12:24:11   #
eden
 
JediKnight wrote:
No need....Trump blames Obama for Trump's own shortcomings each and everyday....and don't forget Hillary's emails!


Correct. Hillary and Obama are Trumps go-to
Chew Toys every time he is presented with evidence of his own incompetence and malfeasance.

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Jun 23, 2019 13:27:58   #
Lonewolf
 
son of witless wrote:
So if something goes wrong during Trump's Presidency, will his silent partner share the blame ?



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Jun 23, 2019 17:59:34   #
JediKnight
 
eden wrote:
Correct. Hillary and Obama are Trumps go-to
Chew Toys every time he is presented with evidence of his own incompetence and malfeasance.


Eden: what's truly sad is how many know this is happening and pretend (deliberately) that it isn't.

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Jun 23, 2019 18:01:03   #
JediKnight
 
Lonewolf wrote:


Obama left Trump with the best economy and a consistently rising stock market...not to mention a growing health care plan, all time relationship with our trading partners, and NO WAR...Trump's mistakes are his own. period.

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Jun 23, 2019 22:28:52   #
son of witless
 
JediKnight wrote:
No need....Trump blames Obama for Trump's own shortcomings each and everyday....and don't forget Hillary's emails!


What shortcomings are you referring to ?

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Jun 23, 2019 22:35:46   #
son of witless
 
JediKnight wrote:
Obama left Trump with the best economy and a consistently rising stock market...not to mention a growing health care plan, all time relationship with our trading partners, and NO WAR...Trump's mistakes are his own. period.


Obama was the king of the part time work economy. Oh yes he was. Obama destroyed the American Health Care system. Obama Care was supposed to do no harm, while conveying free health care on 30 Million people who di-int have it. It di-int work now, did it ?

You misstated Obama's deeds, er I mean misdeeds. Trump has been heroically trying to fix Obama's Screw ups. Unfortunately he cannot fix Obama Care or the border by himself. He has changed Obama's part time work economy into a full time job economy. Employers are unable to fill sk**led jobs. That is what President Full Time Jobs. Trump has done.

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Jun 23, 2019 22:56:02   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
JediKnight wrote:
Obama left Trump with the best economy and a consistently rising stock market...not to mention a growing health care plan, all time relationship with our trading partners, and NO WAR...Trump's mistakes are his own. period.


Do you live in a cave?

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