woodguru

Trump's head is a volatile and combustible place, he can easily be made to "go off" by being contradicted, He likes to think he knows everything and anything that counters positions he's taken is seen as a personal assault to himself.

So imagine how deeply pissed off he will be to find out in the NY Times that the US has a cyber warfare going on that he knows nothing about. This is an affront to every aspect of his power and ego, that intelligence could possibly wage an actual cyber offensive. He refuses to wrap his head around the facts surrounding Russia even being involved in any cyber operations...

Which brings us to asking why Trump would have any reason to know anything about super sensitive and highly classified operations in response to Russian cyber attacks that Trump refuses to have a dialog about. For Trump to have any reason to know anything about this he would have to have been involved in the discussions about what Russia is doing, and then what we are doing in response would have a context.

My guess is that Trump wanted a different type of security briefing Monday morning than he is usually so bored about it's kept down to half an hour and stays away from anything he doesn't agree with...such as Russian cyber attacks. My guess is he wanted to jump to are we involved in cyber attacks against Russia. The answer he will get is that we are involved in preventative security and defending against cyber warfare. Trump will not have a clue that defense is an offensive capability worse than what Russia has.

Take it a step further and it would be assured that intelligence would not want Trump to know anything truly sensitive that they do not want Russia to know. I can see them giving Trump juicy bits that makes him feel in the know about super secret projects that they either think Putin knows about or they want him to know.

Take this into advanced Putin style spy operations and Putin could be messing with Trump's head and causing him to blunder around in secret programs he knows nothing about. Trump could easily be provoked into decimating intelligence organizations that stonewall him when he demands to know about information he has no reason to know anything about.

This warrants reading, there is a lot going on here, it may be a massive head trip on Trump, he isn't going to do well with this. Trump is no match for Putin and the advanced game he is playing at undermining our democracy, this is kicking into a higher gear.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/448759-trump-accuses-new-york-times-of-virtual-act-of-treason-with-russia

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

The NY-slime piece is pure propaganda=BS...scripted by the see'eye'aye warmongering neolib/neocon bureaucrats who want More deception, distraction and chaos...Just like you 'woodstump'

The Russian Federation National Energy Grid relies solely on non-computer analogue electronics and electromechanical control systems for all of its electrical t***smission functions making them impervious to any kind of computer v***s and/or hacking.

Russia's power grid, held together with spit and grit
https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060010742

woodguru

So in your little mind that ends the subject of cyber warfare?

And I do happen to know that on a scale of vulnerability to harm incurred Russia is far less vulnerable than we are to infrastructure debilitating cyber attacks. Less does not mean impervious.

As I was pointing out, the person who is very vulnerable to a misinformation campaign is Trump, he's going to be all sideways and unhinged about this.

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

You're the one who is definitely unhinged, posting 2 posts on the same propaganda piece...The NY-slime is known for this type of garbage as well as the "washington compost"...here's more of the same l*****t propaganda from 2016

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-31/washington-post-caught-spreading-more-f**e-news-about-russian-hackers
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2017/01/01/f**e-news-and-how-the-washington-post-rewrote-its-story-on-russian-hacking-of-the-power-grid/

'F**e News' And How The Washington Post Rewrote Its Story On Russian Hacking Of The Power Grid
Kalev Leetaru Contributor


The control center of California's power grid in 2001. (John Decker / Bloomberg News)

On Friday the Washington Post sparked a wave of fear when it ran the breathless headline “Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say.” The lead sentence offered “A code associated with the Russian hacking operation dubbed Grizzly Steppe by the Obama administration has been detected within the system of a Vermont utility, according to U.S. officials” and continued “While the Russians did not actively use the code to disrupt operations of the utility, according to officials who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss a security matter, the penetration of the nation’s electrical grid is significant because it represents a potentially serious vulnerability.”

Yet, it turns out this narrative was false and as the chronology below will show, illustrates how effectively false and misleading news can ricochet through the global news echo chamber through the pages of top tier newspapers that fail to properly verify their facts.

The original article was posted online on the Washington Post's website at 7:55PM EST. Using the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine, we can see that sometime between 9:24PM and 10:06PM the Post updated the article to indicate that multiple computer systems at the utility had been breached ("computers" plural), but that further data was still being collected: “Officials said that it is unclear when the code entered the Vermont utility’s computers, and that an investigation will attempt to determine the timing and nature of the intrusion.” Several paragraphs of additional material were added between 8PM and 10PM, claiming and contextualizing the breach as part of a broader campaign of Russian hacking against the US, including the DNC and Podesta email breaches.

Richard Rowland

I don't know what Trumpy's need to know is, however, one would think to be the commander in chief, he should know what US agencies are up to. The CIA, for instance, if one can believe what is written, conducts s**t that, from most points of view, would be deemed illegal.

As for Putin undermining democracy: Only Americans themselves can accomplish that.