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The Peril of Megachurches—Political Correctness
Jun 16, 2019 18:23:03   #
bahmer
 
The Peril of Megachurches—Political Correctness
By Shane Idleman - June 16, 2019

By the title you might assume I’m against megachurches, I’m not. God often blesses a work, and a church grows, but there is not a one-size-fits-all approach. Some megachurches are doctrinally sound, filled with excitement and expectations, while others have a mere motivational speaker leading them away from theological depth and width.

In the past, many churches could avoid hot-topic issues, but not today. A clear line of demarcation is being drawn in the sand. Many pastors are choosing between political correctness and biblical faithfulness, between crowd appeal and crowd conviction, between tickling the ears and challenging the heart. Hear more here on why kingdoms are colliding.

Whether the megachurch is in California, Georgia, or New York, it’s sad to see many pastors concerned about offending their audience. After all, whoever has the most social media followers, campuses, or sermon downloads is the way to gauge success, right? Wrong. God judges faithfulness—faithfulness to His Word. ​

Truth about marriage, abortion, socialism, and national security is often neglected, watered-down, or avoided altogether in the hope of not offending members. Please don’t misunderstand: many megachurch pastors are doing great things, from Chuck Swindoll, Tony Evans, and Jack Hibbs to Jack Graham, Greg Laurie, and Jim Cymbala—we feature many of them on the WCF Radio Network—but as a whole, many are audience-driven, not God-inspired.

As an example of this seismic shift, a few years back a major publisher approached me about writing Desperate for More of God. After submitting the manuscript, I was told:

“I’m sorry, but it doesn’t meet a ‘felt-need’.”
The editor continued:

“The chapter, ‘The Desperate Need For Truth,’ isn’t relevant. People aren’t concerned about truth.”
Bingo . . . he nailed it. That’s exactly the problem: we are asking what do people want rather than what they need. Looking back, I praise God that my manuscript was turned down because now I can offer my books as free downloads.

I love my fellow pastors. We feel the pain of parents losing a child to an overdose, marriages crumbling under our watch, and more tragedies than we can count. But at the end of the day, we are not just shepherds, we are also watchmen. We are to uplift and encourage and also convict. There are times when the saints must be fed, and there are times when the sinners must be warned (C. H. Spurgeon). When we fail to proclaim God’s Word faithfully, we run the risk of becoming politically correct and “perverting the words of the living God” (Jeremiah 23).

This is exactly what we are seeing today—many pastors don’t want to offend a certain political party, so they’ll take a neutral approach. But truth is not “neutral” when it comes to absolutes—it’s solid and unyielding.

Additionally, many think that politics is to pastors what kryptonite was to Superman: STAY AWAY! But our political system was ordained by God; it oversees the affairs of men. The institution of government was created by God to govern man—to protect, defend, and administer justice. Many of the Founders were ordained ministers; they understood that faith should impact all areas of life. Leadership matters!

Those who challenge America’s history often acquire their information from “revisionists” or from “secular interpretations” concerning what the Founders believed rather than looking to the Framers’ original writings. Revisionists often use omissions, broad generalizations, and half-truths in order to rewrite history—to take the exception and portray it as the rule. Listen to my interview with a Democratic politician to hear more.

The question often arises then, “Can we legislate morality?” No and yes. No, we cannot change a person’s heart by forcing a set of laws or rules upon them, but we can restrain evil and deter wrongdoing.

We should all strive to defend the weak and the fatherless, maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed, and deliver them from the hand of the wicked (Psalm 82:3–4).
We don’t have to abandon our ethics or compromise our principles to be involved in politics—what good is salt left in the shaker or a light that is hidden? Contextually, when Jesus referred to being “salt and light,” He was referring to holy living at the individual level, but the overlapping principle applies to all areas of life. Politics is not a bad word; in simple terms, politics refers to governing or leading a group of people.

Politics won’t save America, but to implement change and help others, we must take action. Politics, once focused largely on the economy, national security, and the deficit, is now also tackling important moral concerns. These major issues have enormous implications, and to remain silent actually makes a statement that we are not concerned enough.

Unfortunately, we forget that apathy today will be our downfall tomorrow.

Martin Luther King Jr. said:

“The church must be reminded that it is not the master or the servant of the state, but rather the conscience of the state.”
He continues:

“If the church does not recapture its prophetic zeal, it will become an irrelevant social club without moral or spiritual authority.”
What an insightful perspective, especially for us today.

I’m an avid reader of books about revivals and spiritual awakenings written by those who actually experienced them. Ironically, many, if not all, say we must preach and proclaim God’s Word with authority if we are to experience true revival. The New Testament also bears this out—without authority and power from on high, words are lifeless. There is nothing to fear when preaching the truth. God ordained it, and He blesses it. He desires that all people “come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Timothy 2:4 NKJV).

America, if you want revival (which is our only hope at this stage in the depravity game), then the pulpits must stop asking “Will this offend my audience?” and start asking “Will my silence offend God?” Stop trying to be popular, relevant, and cool, and be filled with God’s Spirit. When God gives people the authority to passionately and lovingly proclaim His Word, souls are converted, lives are changed, and families are restored. Returning to His truth is our only hope.

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Jun 18, 2019 23:18:54   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
The pure unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ, a.k.a., the "good news," is intended to offend the sensibilities of fallen, unredeemed mankind.

That is its design and its purpose, for no one wants to be told they are a sinner before God, that all their "good deeds" accomplished through their own effort, independent of God's will and His Holy Spirit, has no spiritual value.

Any church which strays from this message, lest they offend and lose members, is no longer serving God's purpose.

"There comes a time in the life of every church when it should take a fresh inventory of its whole life and disposition, reminding itself again of the day when it mounted up with wings as eagles, ran without weariness, walked without fainting, and renewed its strength in the Lord (Isa. 40:31)." (Homer Hailey, Commentary on Revelation, p. 122).

Megachurches sometimes take on the personna of large rock concerts, a congregation approximating a spectator audience, with no participation.

A minister and supporting ministerial staff who function as rock stars, rather than humble servants to their members, are not projecting the Biblical face of the loving Triune God.

A megachurch that became a megachurch, not because God gave the growth, but because of a desire for a large congregation, providing a large income to the church, supporting a worldly, never ending building program, rather than a priority of winning souls to Jesus Christ, and nurturing them with God's Word, that they may grow closer to God in Jesus Christ, and glorify Him, is a church with no lampstand, meaning the Holy Spirit is no longer present.

Christians today might have felt at home in Ephesus. Those traveling could have visited with the brethren and gone away speaking in glowing terms about their soundness in the faith. The tragedy is these brethren were no longer serving the Lord out of sincere devotion - they had left their first love (Rev. 2:4).

The Lord warned these brethren that unless they repented and did "the first works" He would remove their "lampstand from its place" (Rev. 2:5). The "lampstand" was symbolic of the Lord's presence and His recognition of that congregation as belonging to Him.

"That first love could yet be revived and experienced as at the first, if they would recognize what had happened. It is the same with congregations today. Repentance is a change of mind, or will when the human will submits to the will of God.

Any church that preaches the gospel of Jesus, and Him crucified, will win sincere converts, won not by dazzling architecture or state-of-the-art coffee machines, but by the witness to their souls by the Holy Spirit, of the love of God, and His purpose for their lives.



bahmer wrote:
The Peril of Megachurches—Political Correctness
By Shane Idleman - June 16, 2019

By the title you might assume I’m against megachurches, I’m not. God often blesses a work, and a church grows, but there is not a one-size-fits-all approach. Some megachurches are doctrinally sound, filled with excitement and expectations, while others have a mere motivational speaker leading them away from theological depth and width.

In the past, many churches could avoid hot-topic issues, but not today. A clear line of demarcation is being drawn in the sand. Many pastors are choosing between political correctness and biblical faithfulness, between crowd appeal and crowd conviction, between tickling the ears and challenging the heart. Hear more here on why kingdoms are colliding.

Whether the megachurch is in California, Georgia, or New York, it’s sad to see many pastors concerned about offending their audience. After all, whoever has the most social media followers, campuses, or sermon downloads is the way to gauge success, right? Wrong. God judges faithfulness—faithfulness to His Word. ​

Truth about marriage, abortion, socialism, and national security is often neglected, watered-down, or avoided altogether in the hope of not offending members. Please don’t misunderstand: many megachurch pastors are doing great things, from Chuck Swindoll, Tony Evans, and Jack Hibbs to Jack Graham, Greg Laurie, and Jim Cymbala—we feature many of them on the WCF Radio Network—but as a whole, many are audience-driven, not God-inspired.

As an example of this seismic shift, a few years back a major publisher approached me about writing Desperate for More of God. After submitting the manuscript, I was told:

“I’m sorry, but it doesn’t meet a ‘felt-need’.”
The editor continued:

“The chapter, ‘The Desperate Need For Truth,’ isn’t relevant. People aren’t concerned about truth.”
Bingo . . . he nailed it. That’s exactly the problem: we are asking what do people want rather than what they need. Looking back, I praise God that my manuscript was turned down because now I can offer my books as free downloads.

I love my fellow pastors. We feel the pain of parents losing a child to an overdose, marriages crumbling under our watch, and more tragedies than we can count. But at the end of the day, we are not just shepherds, we are also watchmen. We are to uplift and encourage and also convict. There are times when the saints must be fed, and there are times when the sinners must be warned (C. H. Spurgeon). When we fail to proclaim God’s Word faithfully, we run the risk of becoming politically correct and “perverting the words of the living God” (Jeremiah 23).

This is exactly what we are seeing today—many pastors don’t want to offend a certain political party, so they’ll take a neutral approach. But truth is not “neutral” when it comes to absolutes—it’s solid and unyielding.

Additionally, many think that politics is to pastors what kryptonite was to Superman: STAY AWAY! But our political system was ordained by God; it oversees the affairs of men. The institution of government was created by God to govern man—to protect, defend, and administer justice. Many of the Founders were ordained ministers; they understood that faith should impact all areas of life. Leadership matters!

Those who challenge America’s history often acquire their information from “revisionists” or from “secular interpretations” concerning what the Founders believed rather than looking to the Framers’ original writings. Revisionists often use omissions, broad generalizations, and half-truths in order to rewrite history—to take the exception and portray it as the rule. Listen to my interview with a Democratic politician to hear more.

The question often arises then, “Can we legislate morality?” No and yes. No, we cannot change a person’s heart by forcing a set of laws or rules upon them, but we can restrain evil and deter wrongdoing.

We should all strive to defend the weak and the fatherless, maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed, and deliver them from the hand of the wicked (Psalm 82:3–4).
We don’t have to abandon our ethics or compromise our principles to be involved in politics—what good is salt left in the shaker or a light that is hidden? Contextually, when Jesus referred to being “salt and light,” He was referring to holy living at the individual level, but the overlapping principle applies to all areas of life. Politics is not a bad word; in simple terms, politics refers to governing or leading a group of people.

Politics won’t save America, but to implement change and help others, we must take action. Politics, once focused largely on the economy, national security, and the deficit, is now also tackling important moral concerns. These major issues have enormous implications, and to remain silent actually makes a statement that we are not concerned enough.

Unfortunately, we forget that apathy today will be our downfall tomorrow.

Martin Luther King Jr. said:

“The church must be reminded that it is not the master or the servant of the state, but rather the conscience of the state.”
He continues:

“If the church does not recapture its prophetic zeal, it will become an irrelevant social club without moral or spiritual authority.”
What an insightful perspective, especially for us today.

I’m an avid reader of books about revivals and spiritual awakenings written by those who actually experienced them. Ironically, many, if not all, say we must preach and proclaim God’s Word with authority if we are to experience true revival. The New Testament also bears this out—without authority and power from on high, words are lifeless. There is nothing to fear when preaching the truth. God ordained it, and He blesses it. He desires that all people “come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Timothy 2:4 NKJV).

America, if you want revival (which is our only hope at this stage in the depravity game), then the pulpits must stop asking “Will this offend my audience?” and start asking “Will my silence offend God?” Stop trying to be popular, relevant, and cool, and be filled with God’s Spirit. When God gives people the authority to passionately and lovingly proclaim His Word, souls are converted, lives are changed, and families are restored. Returning to His truth is our only hope.
The Peril of Megachurches—Political Correctness br... (show quote)

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Jun 19, 2019 09:45:20   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
The pure unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ, a.k.a., the "good news," is intended to offend the sensibilities of fallen, unredeemed mankind.

That is its design and its purpose, for no one wants to be told they are a sinner before God, that all their "good deeds" accomplished through their own effort, independent of God's will and His Holy Spirit, has no spiritual value.

Any church which strays from this message, lest they offend and lose members, is no longer serving God's purpose.

"There comes a time in the life of every church when it should take a fresh inventory of its whole life and disposition, reminding itself again of the day when it mounted up with wings as eagles, ran without weariness, walked without fainting, and renewed its strength in the Lord (Isa. 40:31)." (Homer Hailey, Commentary on Revelation, p. 122).

Megachurches sometimes take on the personna of large rock concerts, a congregation approximating a spectator audience, with no participation.

A minister and supporting ministerial staff who function as rock stars, rather than humble servants to their members, are not projecting the Biblical face of the loving Triune God.

A megachurch that became a megachurch, not because God gave the growth, but because of a desire for a large congregation, providing a large income to the church, supporting a worldly, never ending building program, rather than a priority of winning souls to Jesus Christ, and nurturing them with God's Word, that they may grow closer to God in Jesus Christ, and glorify Him, is a church with no lampstand, meaning the Holy Spirit is no longer present.

Christians today might have felt at home in Ephesus. Those traveling could have visited with the brethren and gone away speaking in glowing terms about their soundness in the faith. The tragedy is these brethren were no longer serving the Lord out of sincere devotion - they had left their first love (Rev. 2:4).

The Lord warned these brethren that unless they repented and did "the first works" He would remove their "lampstand from its place" (Rev. 2:5). The "lampstand" was symbolic of the Lord's presence and His recognition of that congregation as belonging to Him.

"That first love could yet be revived and experienced as at the first, if they would recognize what had happened. It is the same with congregations today. Repentance is a change of mind, or will when the human will submits to the will of God.

Any church that preaches the gospel of Jesus, and Him crucified, will win sincere converts, won not by dazzling architecture or state-of-the-art coffee machines, but by the witness to their souls by the Holy Spirit, of the love of God, and His purpose for their lives.
The pure unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ, a.k... (show quote)


Amen and Amen very well put there Zemeriah and I see this more and more. Especially where I live which is near Chicago and the Mega Church near there called Willow Brook and then when my daughter lived in California near the Saddle Back church as well. My brother in law tried to pattern there church after the mega churches but every time that they did it failed and now he has gone into a different ministry altogether.

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Jun 19, 2019 12:38:49   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
It must have been a painful life lesson for him; there is, however, only one pattern of worship, and one set of instructions for the worshiper in God's Holy Manuel, and it in no way describes megachurches.

"And he said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." (Matthew 22:37)

"Brothers and sisters, let’s summarize. When you meet together, you must do everything for the good of everyone there. That's how it should be when each one sings a psalm or teaches or reveals what God has prophesied or speaks an unknown language or explains what that language means." (1st Corinthians 14:26)

May God use him mightily wherever He has placed him.


bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen very well put there Zemeriah and I see this more and more. Especially where I live which is near Chicago and the Mega Church near there called Willow Brook and then when my daughter lived in California near the Saddle Back church as well. My brother in law tried to pattern there church after the mega churches but every time that they did it failed and now he has gone into a different ministry altogether.

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Jun 19, 2019 13:13:45   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
It must have been a painful life lesson for him; there is, however, only one pattern of worship, and one set of instructions for the worshiper in God's Holy Manuel, and it in no way describes megachurches.

"And he said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." (Matthew 22:37)

"Brothers and sisters, let’s summarize. When you meet together, you must do everything for the good of everyone there. That's how it should be when each one sings a psalm or teaches or reveals what God has prophesied or speaks an unknown language or explains what that language means." (1st Corinthians 14:26)

May God use him mightily wherever He has placed him.
It must have been a painful life lesson for him; t... (show quote)


He has become a counselor for a number of different businesses in the Atlanta Georgia area. That is what he has told me so far.

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Jun 28, 2019 19:32:44   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Zemirah wrote:
The pure unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ, a.k.a., the "good news," is intended to offend the sensibilities of fallen, unredeemed mankind.

That is its design and its purpose, for no one wants to be told they are a sinner before God, that all their "good deeds" accomplished through their own effort, independent of God's will and His Holy Spirit, has no spiritual value.

Any church which strays from this message, lest they offend and lose members, is no longer serving God's purpose.

"There comes a time in the life of every church when it should take a fresh inventory of its whole life and disposition, reminding itself again of the day when it mounted up with wings as eagles, ran without weariness, walked without fainting, and renewed its strength in the Lord (Isa. 40:31)." (Homer Hailey, Commentary on Revelation, p. 122).

Megachurches sometimes take on the personna of large rock concerts, a congregation approximating a spectator audience, with no participation.

A minister and supporting ministerial staff who function as rock stars, rather than humble servants to their members, are not projecting the Biblical face of the loving Triune God.

A megachurch that became a megachurch, not because God gave the growth, but because of a desire for a large congregation, providing a large income to the church, supporting a worldly, never ending building program, rather than a priority of winning souls to Jesus Christ, and nurturing them with God's Word, that they may grow closer to God in Jesus Christ, and glorify Him, is a church with no lampstand, meaning the Holy Spirit is no longer present.

Christians today might have felt at home in Ephesus. Those traveling could have visited with the brethren and gone away speaking in glowing terms about their soundness in the faith. The tragedy is these brethren were no longer serving the Lord out of sincere devotion - they had left their first love (Rev. 2:4).

The Lord warned these brethren that unless they repented and did "the first works" He would remove their "lampstand from its place" (Rev. 2:5). The "lampstand" was symbolic of the Lord's presence and His recognition of that congregation as belonging to Him.

"That first love could yet be revived and experienced as at the first, if they would recognize what had happened. It is the same with congregations today. Repentance is a change of mind, or will when the human will submits to the will of God.

Any church that preaches the gospel of Jesus, and Him crucified, will win sincere converts, won not by dazzling architecture or state-of-the-art coffee machines, but by the witness to their souls by the Holy Spirit, of the love of God, and His purpose for their lives.
The pure unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ, a.k... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Jul 1, 2019 09:48:57   #
Rose42
 
Zemirah wrote:
The pure unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ, a.k.a., the "good news," is intended to offend the sensibilities of fallen, unredeemed mankind.

That is its design and its purpose, for no one wants to be told they are a sinner before God, that all their "good deeds" accomplished through their own effort, independent of God's will and His Holy Spirit, has no spiritual value.

Any church which strays from this message, lest they offend and lose members, is no longer serving God's purpose.

"There comes a time in the life of every church when it should take a fresh inventory of its whole life and disposition, reminding itself again of the day when it mounted up with wings as eagles, ran without weariness, walked without fainting, and renewed its strength in the Lord (Isa. 40:31)." (Homer Hailey, Commentary on Revelation, p. 122).

Megachurches sometimes take on the personna of large rock concerts, a congregation approximating a spectator audience, with no participation.

A minister and supporting ministerial staff who function as rock stars, rather than humble servants to their members, are not projecting the Biblical face of the loving Triune God.

A megachurch that became a megachurch, not because God gave the growth, but because of a desire for a large congregation, providing a large income to the church, supporting a worldly, never ending building program, rather than a priority of winning souls to Jesus Christ, and nurturing them with God's Word, that they may grow closer to God in Jesus Christ, and glorify Him, is a church with no lampstand, meaning the Holy Spirit is no longer present.

Christians today might have felt at home in Ephesus. Those traveling could have visited with the brethren and gone away speaking in glowing terms about their soundness in the faith. The tragedy is these brethren were no longer serving the Lord out of sincere devotion - they had left their first love (Rev. 2:4).

The Lord warned these brethren that unless they repented and did "the first works" He would remove their "lampstand from its place" (Rev. 2:5). The "lampstand" was symbolic of the Lord's presence and His recognition of that congregation as belonging to Him.

"That first love could yet be revived and experienced as at the first, if they would recognize what had happened. It is the same with congregations today. Repentance is a change of mind, or will when the human will submits to the will of God.

Any church that preaches the gospel of Jesus, and Him crucified, will win sincere converts, won not by dazzling architecture or state-of-the-art coffee machines, but by the witness to their souls by the Holy Spirit, of the love of God, and His purpose for their lives.
The pure unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ, a.k... (show quote)


Can't add to that.

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Jul 1, 2019 13:10:46   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Thank you, Rose42,

The bare bones simplicity of the gospel of Jesus Christ is written for every man, and can by adding
a multitude of multi-syllable words, and calling it theology be of great appeal even to the best educated and most sophisticated among us.

The important thing is that it be taught, and not hidden away, submerged beneath the latest doctrine of man's psychology, or the latest theories of contemporary philosophers.



Rose42 wrote:
Can't add to that.

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