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Islam is violent because its founder, Muhammad, was violent, Muslim expert says
Jun 16, 2019 16:39:22   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
'ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and his successors'

Published: 05/11/2019 at 8:48 PM
By Hamed Abdel-Samad


Since 9/11, when Islamic terrorists k**led nearly 3,000 people, Muslim advocacy groups in the United States have had considerable success promoting the notion that Islam is a religion of peace.

Al-Qaida, ISIS and other such violent groups have nothing to do with Islam, goes the narrative.

But Hamed Abdel-Samad, an Egyptian-born political scientist and author who emigrated to Germany, insists otherwise, arguing one need only examine the sacred texts and the founder of Islam.

“ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and his successors, at the time,” Abdel-Samad said in a talk show on the Austrian ServusTV channel. “They brought an ideology into the world, using weapons and the subjugation of peoples.

He said that as an Egyptian, he “would never have been born a Muslim if Muhammad’s successors had not behaved like ISIS does.”

“The same holds true for Morocco, Iran, and, in fact, anywhere Islam spread. The entire history of Islam is a history of conquest,” he said.

His comments were t***slated and reported by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

He addressed the contention that “Islamophobia” is the cause of terrorism.

“Many Muslims from every Muslim country joined ISIS,” he pointed out. “The first group came from Saudi Arabia. I don’t think Islamophobia exists there. The second group came from the middle class of Tunisia. There is not much Islamophobia there either.

“There is not a single Islamic country that is devoid of terrorism and of increasing radicalization,” he said. “Saying that the main and only reason (for terrorism), in your view, is that these young people face Islamophobia is not the way to solve the problem.”

Abdel-Samad said to solve the problem, teaching in mosques that encourages violent jihad must be curbed.

Many who fought for ISIS are returning to their home countries in Europe, he noted.

“And then we wake up and learn that one of them drove a truck into a crowd,” he said.

Such violent offenders, he suggested, should be put “before an international tribunal, and [society should] inflict harsh punishment on them.”

Abdel-Samad warned that violence is embedded deeply in Muslim culture, and it all comes from its founder.

“I am criticizing a man who has been dead for 1,400 years. He was married to 13 women. He waged 80 wars in the last eight years of his life. He took women as prisoners of war. Why should an enlightened person in the 21st century not criticize this man?” he said.


Hamed Abdel-Samad, WND
talk show on the Austrian ServusTV channel

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Jun 16, 2019 17:03:02   #
Rose42
 
Zemirah wrote:
'ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and his successors'

Published: 05/11/2019 at 8:48 PM
By Hamed Abdel-Samad


Since 9/11, when Islamic terrorists k**led nearly 3,000 people, Muslim advocacy groups in the United States have had considerable success promoting the notion that Islam is a religion of peace.

Al-Qaida, ISIS and other such violent groups have nothing to do with Islam, goes the narrative.

But Hamed Abdel-Samad, an Egyptian-born political scientist and author who emigrated to Germany, insists otherwise, arguing one need only examine the sacred texts and the founder of Islam.

“ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and his successors, at the time,” Abdel-Samad said in a talk show on the Austrian ServusTV channel. “They brought an ideology into the world, using weapons and the subjugation of peoples.

He said that as an Egyptian, he “would never have been born a Muslim if Muhammad’s successors had not behaved like ISIS does.”

“The same holds true for Morocco, Iran, and, in fact, anywhere Islam spread. The entire history of Islam is a history of conquest,” he said.

His comments were t***slated and reported by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

He addressed the contention that “Islamophobia” is the cause of terrorism.

“Many Muslims from every Muslim country joined ISIS,” he pointed out. “The first group came from Saudi Arabia. I don’t think Islamophobia exists there. The second group came from the middle class of Tunisia. There is not much Islamophobia there either.

“There is not a single Islamic country that is devoid of terrorism and of increasing radicalization,” he said. “Saying that the main and only reason (for terrorism), in your view, is that these young people face Islamophobia is not the way to solve the problem.”

Abdel-Samad said to solve the problem, teaching in mosques that encourages violent jihad must be curbed.

Many who fought for ISIS are returning to their home countries in Europe, he noted.

“And then we wake up and learn that one of them drove a truck into a crowd,” he said.

Such violent offenders, he suggested, should be put “before an international tribunal, and [society should] inflict harsh punishment on them.”

Abdel-Samad warned that violence is embedded deeply in Muslim culture, and it all comes from its founder.

“I am criticizing a man who has been dead for 1,400 years. He was married to 13 women. He waged 80 wars in the last eight years of his life. He took women as prisoners of war. Why should an enlightened person in the 21st century not criticize this man?” he said.


Hamed Abdel-Samad, WND
talk show on the Austrian ServusTV channel
'ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and... (show quote)


Contrast the evils of Mohammed with Christ. It boggles the mind that people would bend over backwards to apologize and make excuses for the former while hating the latter

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Jun 16, 2019 17:11:11   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Zemirah wrote:
Abdel-Samad warned that violence is embedded deeply in Muslim culture, and it all comes from its founder.

As well as being funded and supported by al'cia'da warmongerin bureaucrats = neolib marxists/neocon trotsky's

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Jun 16, 2019 17:34:56   #
PeterS
 
Zemirah wrote:
'ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and his successors'

Published: 05/11/2019 at 8:48 PM
By Hamed Abdel-Samad


Since 9/11, when Islamic terrorists k**led nearly 3,000 people, Muslim advocacy groups in the United States have had considerable success promoting the notion that Islam is a religion of peace.

Al-Qaida, ISIS and other such violent groups have nothing to do with Islam, goes the narrative.

But Hamed Abdel-Samad, an Egyptian-born political scientist and author who emigrated to Germany, insists otherwise, arguing one need only examine the sacred texts and the founder of Islam.

“ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and his successors, at the time,” Abdel-Samad said in a talk show on the Austrian ServusTV channel. “They brought an ideology into the world, using weapons and the subjugation of peoples.

He said that as an Egyptian, he “would never have been born a Muslim if Muhammad’s successors had not behaved like ISIS does.”

“The same holds true for Morocco, Iran, and, in fact, anywhere Islam spread. The entire history of Islam is a history of conquest,” he said.

His comments were t***slated and reported by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

He addressed the contention that “Islamophobia” is the cause of terrorism.

“Many Muslims from every Muslim country joined ISIS,” he pointed out. “The first group came from Saudi Arabia. I don’t think Islamophobia exists there. The second group came from the middle class of Tunisia. There is not much Islamophobia there either.

“There is not a single Islamic country that is devoid of terrorism and of increasing radicalization,” he said. “Saying that the main and only reason (for terrorism), in your view, is that these young people face Islamophobia is not the way to solve the problem.”

Abdel-Samad said to solve the problem, teaching in mosques that encourages violent jihad must be curbed.

Many who fought for ISIS are returning to their home countries in Europe, he noted.

“And then we wake up and learn that one of them drove a truck into a crowd,” he said.

Such violent offenders, he suggested, should be put “before an international tribunal, and [society should] inflict harsh punishment on them.”

Abdel-Samad warned that violence is embedded deeply in Muslim culture, and it all comes from its founder.

“I am criticizing a man who has been dead for 1,400 years. He was married to 13 women. He waged 80 wars in the last eight years of his life. He took women as prisoners of war. Why should an enlightened person in the 21st century not criticize this man?” he said.


Hamed Abdel-Samad, WND
talk show on the Austrian ServusTV channel
'ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and... (show quote)

The god of the bible wasn't exactly a pacifist. So why don't you non-violent Christians have guns and threaten everyone with them??? Oh, wait, my bad....

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Jun 16, 2019 17:52:55   #
Seth
 
PeterS wrote:
The god of the bible wasn't exactly a pacifist. So why don't you non-violent Christians have guns and threaten everyone with them??? Oh, wait, my bad....


What part of "Why would an enlightened person of the 21st Century...?" didn't you understand?

I'll say it again, slowly...

While the western world was evolving socially over 14 centuries, the Islamic world continued living, to all intents and purposes, in the 7th Century until the early 1900s, when the U.S. and France showed them how to recover their oil.

Islam is still about 14 centuries behind us, and there is not much in the way of chronology in their beliefs -- to them it's like the violence of Mohammed, the Moors and the Crusades may as well have all occurred last month.

In Islam, we are facing a pre-Renaissance mindset that is 180° different from ours, a mindset still living in very violent, bloody times.

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Jun 16, 2019 17:57:46   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
John 3:19:

"And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil."



Rose42 wrote:
Contrast the evils of Mohammed with Christ. It boggles the mind that people would bend over backwards to apologize and make excuses for the former while hating the latter

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Jun 16, 2019 18:17:58   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
'ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and his successors'

Published: 05/11/2019 at 8:48 PM
By Hamed Abdel-Samad


Since 9/11, when Islamic terrorists k**led nearly 3,000 people, Muslim advocacy groups in the United States have had considerable success promoting the notion that Islam is a religion of peace.

Al-Qaida, ISIS and other such violent groups have nothing to do with Islam, goes the narrative.

But Hamed Abdel-Samad, an Egyptian-born political scientist and author who emigrated to Germany, insists otherwise, arguing one need only examine the sacred texts and the founder of Islam.

“ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and his successors, at the time,” Abdel-Samad said in a talk show on the Austrian ServusTV channel. “They brought an ideology into the world, using weapons and the subjugation of peoples.

He said that as an Egyptian, he “would never have been born a Muslim if Muhammad’s successors had not behaved like ISIS does.”

“The same holds true for Morocco, Iran, and, in fact, anywhere Islam spread. The entire history of Islam is a history of conquest,” he said.

His comments were t***slated and reported by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

He addressed the contention that “Islamophobia” is the cause of terrorism.

“Many Muslims from every Muslim country joined ISIS,” he pointed out. “The first group came from Saudi Arabia. I don’t think Islamophobia exists there. The second group came from the middle class of Tunisia. There is not much Islamophobia there either.

“There is not a single Islamic country that is devoid of terrorism and of increasing radicalization,” he said. “Saying that the main and only reason (for terrorism), in your view, is that these young people face Islamophobia is not the way to solve the problem.”

Abdel-Samad said to solve the problem, teaching in mosques that encourages violent jihad must be curbed.

Many who fought for ISIS are returning to their home countries in Europe, he noted.

“And then we wake up and learn that one of them drove a truck into a crowd,” he said.

Such violent offenders, he suggested, should be put “before an international tribunal, and [society should] inflict harsh punishment on them.”

Abdel-Samad warned that violence is embedded deeply in Muslim culture, and it all comes from its founder.

“I am criticizing a man who has been dead for 1,400 years. He was married to 13 women. He waged 80 wars in the last eight years of his life. He took women as prisoners of war. Why should an enlightened person in the 21st century not criticize this man?” he said.


Hamed Abdel-Samad, WND
talk show on the Austrian ServusTV channel
'ISIS is doing nothing different than Muhammad and... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Jun 16, 2019 19:33:46   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
PeterS wrote:
The god of the bible wasn't exactly a pacifist. So why don't you non-violent Christians have guns and threaten everyone with them??? Oh, wait, my bad....


Its i***tic to say everyone with firearms are threatening everybody else....matter of fact, anyone who would say that is a liar.

But we know that you cannot tell the t***h.

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Jun 18, 2019 02:14:02   #
debeda
 
Rose42 wrote:
Contrast the evils of Mohammed with Christ. It boggles the mind that people would bend over backwards to apologize and make excuses for the former while hating the latter


EXCELLENT point, Rose

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Jun 18, 2019 02:15:39   #
debeda
 
PeterS wrote:
The god of the bible wasn't exactly a pacifist. So why don't you non-violent Christians have guns and threaten everyone with them??? Oh, wait, my bad....


Rose specifically said Christ, not the God of the old testament. Turn the other cheek, remember.?

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Jun 18, 2019 02:16:15   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
What part of "Why would an enlightened person of the 21st Century...?" didn't you understand?

I'll say it again, slowly...

While the western world was evolving socially over 14 centuries, the Islamic world continued living, to all intents and purposes, in the 7th Century until the early 1900s, when the U.S. and France showed them how to recover their oil.

Islam is still about 14 centuries behind us, and there is not much in the way of chronology in their beliefs -- to them it's like the violence of Mohammed, the Moors and the Crusades may as well have all occurred last month.

In Islam, we are facing a pre-Renaissance mindset that is 180° different from ours, a mindset still living in very violent, bloody times.
What part of "Why would an enlightened person... (show quote)


Well said, Seth

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Jun 18, 2019 02:26:57   #
Seth
 
debeda wrote:
Well said, Seth


Thanks. Not like it will sink into the mind, though, of a regressive l*****t buffoon "progressive."

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Jun 18, 2019 06:38:51   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
If every progressive and every media person would just actually sit down and read the Qur'an, they just might begin to understand the mindset that prevails within Islam, their values, their motivation and their goals.

I have been waiting since 9/11 for that to occur.

I do believe there is evidence that some members of the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives have actually read the Qur'an, but not so much on the 'progressive" side of the aisle.


Seth wrote:
Thanks. Not like it will sink into the mind, though, of a regressive l*****t buffoon "progressive."

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Jun 18, 2019 08:31:28   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
Thanks. Not like it will sink into the mind, though, of a regressive l*****t buffoon "progressive."



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Jun 24, 2019 19:43:38   #
promilitary
 
I say again, there is no such thing as a "peaceful" Muslim.

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