This will have the right wing in ashes and sack cloth.
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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Bulls**t! In my mind, at least.
How does ones faith carry over to which political party they v**e for?
God will h**e me if I v**e Republican?
God will h**e me if I v**e Democrat?
FK me, because I'm going to do what's right, and v**e for wh**ever dirtbag I think will do us, as a people the most good.and None of them will, so, I go with my own personal responsibility, and ability to make myself happy, and self sufficient.
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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Your post shows so much ignorance that it warrants no real response. You obviously have very little knowledge of the totality of scripture, especially of all the teachings of the New Testament. Like many you cherry pick the words of jesus to fit your own contrived doctrin.
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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So dumb!!!...Then what about Jews???Most Jews v**e Democrat!!!...What about us Jews who v**e Republicans???..Are we also going to hell???....Even though i dont really believe in Hell,i believe it's more likely that pro-a******n Democrats that will end up in Hell!!!
Liberty Tree wrote:
Your post shows so much ignorance that it warrants no real response. You obviously have very little knowledge of the totality of scripture, especially of all the teachings of the New Testament. Like many you cherry pick the words of jesus to fit your own contrived doctrin.
It is indeed an article written out of ignorance. We have ample warning to be aware of false doctrine
All Bullnadler.
Religion doesn't have anything to do with your political affiliation.
Lazy? Yer a kommiecrat.
Doer, worker? Yer a Republican.
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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Posting anonymous unverified opinions to stir up s**t is what internet trolls do. Good job, troll.
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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Most of those bigoted self righteous bible thumpers are going to be surprised to find themselves sharing a smoldering doing heap in hell with the bearded nuts who expected 21 virgins in paradise. I doubt many will reflect on this fine post, though they should.
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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I have often said.................the single greatest weapon in Satan's arsenal....................is a self righteous "christian".
The single greatest weapon in God's arsenal...............is an humble sinner.
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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You’re confusing governments with people. Governments don’t go to heaven or hell, people do.
For starters, it’s well established that conservatives donate substantially more to charity than l*****ts do.
There isn’t any prohibition against becoming wealthy, it’s actually the normal outcome of a life well lived in a capitalist society. Becoming wealthy by pleasing others. The prohibition is against ill gotten gains.
What the wealthy young man asked Jesus what he could do to achieve eternal life, Jesus told him to sell his belongings and follow Him. But the young man sadly turned away. Further investigation shows that he was wealthy with ill gotten gains. And he was unwilling to part with them.
L*****ts love to (erroneously) point out that Jesus favored the poor over the rich. Which is a myth. Designed to keep the victims of l*****t policies on the plantation, awaiting the crumbs offered by their l*****t overlords.
Kevyn wrote:
Most of those bigoted self righteous bible thumpers are going to be surprised to find themselves sharing a smoldering doing heap in hell with the bearded nuts who expected 21 virgins in paradise. I doubt many will reflect on this fine post, though they should.
What is a
doing heap; and last I heard it was 72 virgins. oh, yes, Kevyn, BTW, there is something the mullahs forgot to tell the faithful about those 72 virgins........
They look like they are expecting you.
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
What is a doing heap; and last I heard it was 72 virgins. oh, yes, Kevyn, BTW, there is something the mullahs forgot to tell the faithful about those 72 virgins........
They look like they are expecting you.
Dung heap, I have thick fingers and autocorrect got me.
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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And another blind i***t speaks !!!!!!
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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You forgot to figure in the stupid factor
permafrost wrote:
While I get a lot of stuff in the email which shows no origin..
this came from a Quora post and the author is backed up by a religious scholar..
I do not know enough to post it, but sound a ring of t***h to me..
A study shows that most Orthodox Christians and Catholics v**e Democratic. How can a Christian v**e Democratic?
David Reynolds, studied at Nunawading High School
Answered Jun 6 · Upv**ed by Alberto Valenzuela, MA Religion, Loma Linda University (1987)
I think that this is going to be an unpalatable answer for you.
There is a fair degree of biblical evidence that people who v**e Republican are not actually Christians, and well might be the ones damned to Hell.
I know that’s a very confrontational thing to say, but let me see if I can justify it scripturally.
Jesus spoke often about the poor, and about how we treat them. He also spoke a number of times about the perils of being rich. Republicans are the antichrist of those two issues. If you want a government that reflects Christianity, these two things must be front and centre.
The two “Christian” platforms that Republicans cling to, are a******n and homosexuality. Jesus did not speak of these at all.
So we ignore what He did speak of, and place emphasis on something He never spoke of. A thinking person should ask why.
Now, to the salvation aspect. A born again Christian places their trust in a salvation based primarily on the texts of the “Romans Road”- “For all have sinned…”, “The wages of sin is death”, “If we confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ…” Romans 3:23, 6:23, 10:9&10. etc. Effectively, I pray a prayer and “believe and repent” and I’m let off the hook.
It’s worth noting that these are letters written by a former pharisee named Paul who never met Jesus in the flesh, and these are letters to a church in Rome, not to us. But born again Christians will bank their eternal salvation on this.
However, Jesus gave his own salvation message. Out of His own mouth. There are a number, but these are my favourite three…with particular emphasis on the last:
Matt 19:24: “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 16: 19–31. Lazarus and the rich man.
And may all time favourite. Matt 25: 31–46. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.
Two interesting things about this last one:
a) Jesus is very clear that if you don’t care for the poor (the least of these), you’re going to eternal punishment. It doesn’t seem to matter what prayer you prayed.
b) the “goats”, those who are going to Hell, are surprised, and are calling Him “Lord”. Therefore, they thought they were Christians, but were not. Think about it in the context of your question,
Finally, the logical follow up questions should be, “how did so many people get suckered?” And “why do evangelical churches place so much emphasis on letters to an ancient church by a former pharisee, while effectively ignoring the very words of Jesus…their actual founder?”
The only answer I can see is, that it’s an easier sell. Scripture warns us about charlatans like this, and that many will be deceived. It’s not just the salesman’s fault, the buyer needs to be responsible too. Read the words of Jesus again, and rethink your question.
I apologise for the very confrontational nature of this answer, and wish you well in your journey.
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