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Jun 13, 2019 08:05:38   #
badbob85037
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
Where was the "oversight", on the Clinton Cartel, & the Russia connection?..... The 33,000+ erased e-mails, from "K**lery"? The oversight on the half "million"$ paid to slick perverted Willie, & monies "flow into" the Clinton Foundation, from many of America's enemies around the world? Where was the "oversight", on Hillary, that bashed, & destroyed a dozen communication devices? ** How about Hillary, as Secretary of state, selling 20% of America's Plutonium, to the { WHO?}....The Russians, & the 175 million going into the Clinton Coffers?**{where are these "Checks & balances"?} You Libtards, are about to "realize", Justice....Mr Barr is going to educamate you left wing nut cases, as to the criminality of your entire party......they have started with the FBI, CIA, DNC, & the Clinton Foundation, the t***h about the Obama Admn. & it's criminality........Y'all, are going to be "Jerked out of your pants, with integrity, & Realization!

It's coming to a court near you......get yourself a good seat! You gunna "love" what happens next!

Why do you "SLiberals", always ignore the obvious criminality of your defunct party?.....
Where was the "oversight", on the Clinto... (show quote)


Because they are real stupid. I though everybody knew that.

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Jun 13, 2019 08:11:06   #
badbob85037
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
It has been investigated 10 times, 6 of which by Republicans and none found any wrong doing on either Obama's part or on Hillary's part so stop believing all the conspiracy theories about B******i, that ship has sailed, no wrong doing. Was the ball dropped? Yes, was either of them responsible? No, get over it and quit your crying.

As for the e-mail scandal, where is your outrage that Trump administration officials are doing the same thing? You are aware that even Ivanka and Jared are using private servers for official business right? With all the b***hing and crying about it Trump has done, you would think that he would be cracking down on his own administration officials doing the same thing. I guess it is only a crime if you are a Democrat, huh?

You have failed to prove this lying, could it be because you have no proof?
It has been investigated 10 times, 6 of which by R... (show quote)


if common sense matters how come you are totally void of it?

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Jun 13, 2019 11:37:13   #
dongreen76
 
Airforceone wrote:
Well as I read the right wing using there out of touch comments that there is no where in the constitution that even mentions oversight. So they don’t want any oversight on POTUS because the word oversight is not in the constitution.

But in 1927 the congressional Oversight committee was formed which combined I believe was 11 committees and put the responsibility on one committee.

So let’s look at it this was. Oversight is an implied powers granted to congress which is necessary and a proper clause in the constitution.

So the term congressional oversight forms the key element of our system of checks and balances. (SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL GENIUSES ON OPP)

Congressional oversight also has the power of oversight on the executive Branch, and all branches of government. Which includes monitoring and supervision of POTUS and all federal agencies over our laws, programs, and activities along with policy implementation .
( SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL GENIUSES ON OPP)

Now let’s look at what Trump is doing now and I am trying to keep it simple because right wing OPP bloggers refuse to read legislation or what the oversight committee is actually doing. I left out the Russia stuff because it’s clear OPP bloggers believes the same thing that Trump believes that Putin did not interfere with our e******ns and none of the Trump campaign staff ever had contact with Russians during the campaign. So let’s just leave that out.

But over the last several months congress had requested documentation on the following.

Expenditures on Hurricane in PR, Security Clearance abuses, Efforts by Trump to give a $8.1 billion contract to the Saudis to build US Nuclear weapons and Trumps efforts to produce nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia, Hush money payments using campaign funds and Trump foundation funds which Trump calls f**e news. (NOT ONE DOCUMENT HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE)

Congressional oversight committee is the main investigative committee of the US to preform Checks and balances so for the president to defy subpoenas, and refuse to turn over documents is in direct violation of our constitution on Checks and balances.

Trumps cronies love using that Trump turned over 1 million documents to Muellar but the DOJ refuse to release these documents to congress to perform oversight. How are the American people to understand what happened when the Russians hacked our e******n. So again Trump through his phony AG is hiding documents from the congressional oversight committee.

So Trump and his advisors use the term no do-overs when Congressional Oversight have received no documents none what so over. So that blows the talking point of 1 million documents turned over to congress. (SIMPLE EXPLANATION FOR RIGHT WINGER BLOGGERS)

But right OPP bloggers actually think 🤔 that no oversight should be done on Trump. Is that the government created under our Constitution.

(YES TRUMP SUPPORTERS THE WORD OVERSIGHT IS NOT USED IN THE CONSTITUTION BUT CHECKS AND BALANCES IS USED)
Well as I read the right wing using there out of t... (show quote)


That is a Republican semantical Republican trick.
Just as they use it concerning Trump,and Collusion.The word collusion is not in the Constitution,but conspiracy is.

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Jun 13, 2019 12:40:29   #
son of witless
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
It has been investigated 10 times, 6 of which by Republicans and none found any wrong doing on either Obama's part or on Hillary's part so stop believing all the conspiracy theories about B******i, that ship has sailed, no wrong doing. Was the ball dropped? Yes, was either of them responsible? No, get over it and quit your crying.

As for the e-mail scandal, where is your outrage that Trump administration officials are doing the same thing? You are aware that even Ivanka and Jared are using private servers for official business right? With all the b***hing and crying about it Trump has done, you would think that he would be cracking down on his own administration officials doing the same thing. I guess it is only a crime if you are a Democrat, huh?

You have failed to prove this lying, could it be because you have no proof?
It has been investigated 10 times, 6 of which by R... (show quote)


So FALSELY blaming a Video for 4 Americans dying was not WRONG ?????????

Operating an ILLEGAL E-Mail Server with Classified Material was not wrong ???????????????????

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Jun 13, 2019 13:44:27   #
maureenthannon
 
Airforce One, Didn't you know, Meller's report says that there was "NO COLLISION BETWEEN RUSSIA AND TRUMP" Or do you care about the COLLUSION BETWEEN RUSSIA AND CLINTON AND BETWEEN RUSSIA ND OBAMA? Hillary ILLEGALLY took campaign money from Russia. The Russian didn't contribute the money directly into HRC's campaign coffers, which ISM ILLEGAL, they gave the money to the Clinton Foundation and to Bill. While BHO was POUS, while he was negotiating with a Russian official, POUS Obama in 2012, POUS Obama didn't realize that his mike was still on, he whispered to the Russin that he'd be better able to negotiate with him after the e******n. Don't forget when Secretary of State Clinton allowed the Russians to purchase 20% of our uranium Is it good to enable our enemies to produce nukes? The LEFT seem to think so, as it was good when he made a del with Iran which ended inspection of Iran's nuclear facilities if they promised to be nice and not use their nukes to make weapons. Iran supposedly need nuclear energy to power their country, even though Iran has a large supply o oil.

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Jun 13, 2019 13:50:15   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Could you tell me where those checks and balances were for the 8 of obama? I didn't see it when he was allowed to send over 2,000 weapons to the worst bunch of murderers this side of the Pecos and the other side too. With a gutless Congress finding his Attorney General in contempt of Congress then not prosecute letting over 600 k*****gs go without justice. I didn't see them when he murdered thousands of innocent including 500 children all across Africa Or when he murdered American children without due process. I didn't see them when he pulled his genocide of 130,000 of the ones he told America he had to save. I haven't seen either one, check or balance since the Patriot Act. It sure is funny that some SOB that missed all obama's out right treasonous acts, criminal doings,and Constitution violations now thinks he's some Constitutional expert

This is the crap that is just more reason for a bloody Revolution. Dirty obama gets away with genocide, illegal wars, TREASON arming Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, ISIS, and even the drug cartels, sent billions in cash to Iran with out authority and sold our uranium to Russia while screwing our allies at every opportunity This slug should have rotted from the tree by now and you are l*****t enough to say Trump violated the Constitution. You wouldn't know the Constitution if it walked up, introduced it's self then slapped the s**t out of you. Just a bad joke.
Could you tell me where those checks and balances ... (show quote)


The Republicans tried their asses off, it got nowhere because they found nothing to impeach upon. Just because the alt-right nut jobs swear there was wrong doing, that doesn't make it so. There was 10 investigations into Banghazi alone, 6 of them by the Republican controlled House committees, one by the FBI, one by an independent board commissioned by the State Department, 2 by the Democrat controlled Senate committees. If there was anything there, don't you think it would have been found? That stream has been over fished. The Banghazi attack wasn't the only incident that the Republicans investigated either. They investigated anything and everything trying to find anything to stick on Obama and/or Hillary. Time to quit crying over Obama's tenure.

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Jun 13, 2019 14:47:39   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
son of witless wrote:
So FALSELY blaming a Video for 4 Americans dying was not WRONG ?????????


There are three suspected reasons for the attacks on Sept. 11, 2012.

Wikipedia wrote:
On September 10, 2012, at least 18 hours before the attack in B******i, al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri released a video to coincide with the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in 2001, which called for attacks on Americans in Libya in order to avenge the death of Abu Yahya al-Libi in a drone strike in Pakistan in June 2012.[5] It is uncertain how much prior knowledge of the attack al-Zawahiri had, though he praised the attackers on October 12, 2012 in another video.[112]


The first suspected reason was a video released by Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of al-Qaeda at the time, which called for attacks. It is unclear whether his call for attacks gained any traction though.

Wikipedia wrote:
On September 14, 2012, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula released a statement arguing the attack was revenge for the death of al-Libi, though they did not claim official responsibility for the B******i attack.[5] It was later reported that 3 operatives from the group did take part in the attack.[5] Further, an intercepted phone call from the B******i area immediately after the attack reportedly linked senior Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb commander Mokhtar Belmokhtar to the attack.[113]


The second possibilities was that al-Qaeda Claimed the attacks were in retaliation for the death of al-Libi. This is what they claimed AFTER the attacks, even though BEFORE the attacks, they were calling for acts of violence for a whole other reason. There is no way of knowing whether either of the reasons given by al-Qaeda actually played any role at all in the attack, especially since they made a call for violence for one reason and then AFTER the attacks, they changed their story.

Wikipedia wrote:
Kirkpatrick reported that Ansar al-Sharia said they were launching the assault in retaliation for the release of the anti-Islamic video, Innocence of Muslims.[115][116] It was further reported that Ahmed Abu Khattala was called a ringleader of the attack by both witnesses and authorities, though he insisted he did not play a part in the aggression at the American compound. Witnesses, B******i residents, and Western news reports have described him as a leader of Ansar al-Sharia, though he stated he was close to the group but not an official part of it. He further stated he was the commander of an Islamist brigade, Abu Obaida ibn al-Jarrah, some of whose members had joined Ansar al-Sharia
Kirkpatrick reported that Ansar al-Sharia said the... (show quote)


The third possible reason, and the one that holds the greatest merit is that it was in retaliation for the anti-Islamic video, "Innocence of Muslims". This possible reason for the attacks even has witnesses and there was much unrest in the region related to this video leading up to the attack in B******i. That is the reason this one is the most plausible trigger for the attacks.

Just because all your alt-right conspiracy theorist like to come up with reasons for the attack that they like to blame on the Obama administration, it doesn't change the actual facts behind the events. Yes, al-Qaeda tried to incite violence before the attack occurred, yes, they claimed responsibility for it. No witnesses backed their claims though and their "reason" for the attack changed in between the two videos. Witnesses of the attacks place Ahmed Abu Khattala on the scene and say that he was the ring leader of the attack. He has been described as the leader of Ansar al-Sharia by witnesses of the attacks, B******i residents and in Western news reports on Ansar al-Sharia. He himself claimed that he was a commander of an Islamist brigade, Abu Obaida ibn al-Jarrah. Some members of that group later became members of Ansar al-Sharia.

The greatest evidence points to him as the ring leader and the video as the trigger.

son of witless wrote:
Operating an ILLEGAL E-Mail Server with Classified Material was not wrong ???????????????????


Ah, so you shall be calling for investigations into Trump's administration for doing the very same thing then I suspect. Hillary has been cleared of illegal intent, with as much attention her case has gotten and Trump himself calling out to "lock her up", don't you think that officials in his administration should have thought twice about doing the SAME EXACT THING? She at least has the luxury of saying that she didn't think it was that big of a deal since others do it too, they KNOW it is a big deal and yet they too are doing it. Quit your crying.

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Jun 13, 2019 14:52:34   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
badbob85037 wrote:
if common sense matters how come you are totally void of it?


Yes, because basing my opinions and world view on facts does show a massive lack of common sense, or at least in your eyes it does.

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Jun 13, 2019 14:55:00   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Crayons wrote:
It was proven during "Erica the With-Holder of Justice" tenure, That serial numbered weapons from NM and AZ
were tracked through Mexico all the way through Angola to Syria and even some of the same lot were traced to the huge massacre in France...and those few republicans you reference were nothin more that neocon trotsky RINO's
who were only tryin to cover their own butts


Wow, I am sure you have facts to back this outlandish claim then?

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Jun 13, 2019 16:40:15   #
dongreen76
 
son of witless wrote:
So FALSELY blaming a Video for 4 Americans dying was not WRONG ?????????

Operating an ILLEGAL E-Mail Server with Classified Material was not wrong ???????????????????

Technically it was wrong,but there was no criminal intent behind it.That is what matters.If you think about it - it may have
been a stroke of genius;with all the hacking going on today,and Russia being highly suspect of infiltrating our (internet
servers& clouds.If I were this country's enemy and I wanted to hack,My search would be considerably narrowed down to searching for vital information about the government on government servers as oppose to going the tedious efforts of trying to find where to even begin

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Jun 13, 2019 17:38:00   #
son of witless
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Ah, so you shall be calling for investigations into Trump's administration for doing the very same thing then I suspect. Hillary has been cleared of illegal intent, with as much attention her case has gotten and Trump himself calling out to "lock her up", don't you think that officials in his administration should have thought twice about doing the SAME EXACT THING? She at least has the luxury of saying that she didn't think it was that big of a deal since others do it too, they KNOW it is a big deal and yet they too are doing it. Quit your crying.
Ah, so you shall be calling for investigations int... (show quote)


How about a fourth possibility ? Perhaps the bad guys figured out that the security provided by the Obama Administration was piss poor. Evil attacks weakness. Perhaps the Consulate was a sitting target, and the bad guys waited until they could bring together the resources needed. Perhaps 9/11/12 the militants finally gathered the 150 fighters needed.

Perhaps the bad guys figured out that nobody in the Obama-Hillary State Department bothered to know about the real danger of the Americans in Libya. Now I am sure the militants did not directly know that repeated requests for security upgrades were denied in the months and weeks before the attack. Requests such as a request to put guard towers at B******i.

After the attack, instead of seeking to find out what went wrong, the Obamaites in true Soviet style were far more concerned with covering themselves from blame by concocting this i***tic fairy tale about a video that almost nobody saw until the Administration used it as a cover up tool.

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Jun 13, 2019 17:45:43   #
son of witless
 
dongreen76 wrote:
Technically it was wrong,but there was no criminal intent behind it.That is what matters.If you think about it - it may have
been a stroke of genius;with all the hacking going on today,and Russia being highly suspect of infiltrating our (internet
servers& clouds.If I were this country's enemy and I wanted to hack,My search would be considerably narrowed down to searching for vital information about the government on government servers as oppose to going the tedious efforts of trying to find where to even begin
Technically it was wrong,but there was no criminal... (show quote)


Criminal intent is not a defense in certain offenses. The handling of classified materials is one of those areas. If a person handling top secret materials fails to follow proper procedures he and she is criminally liable, end of story. By having classified materials on her private server, Hillary was guilty of gross negligence and in spite of what that i***t Comey said, she should have been prosecuted. Her offenses were many magnitudes higher than what Gen. Flynn was prosecuted for, but then he should have changed his name to Gen. Clinton. That was Flynn's real crime.

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Jun 13, 2019 19:12:05   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
son of witless wrote:
How about a fourth possibility ? Perhaps the bad guys figured out that the security provided by the Obama Administration was piss poor. Evil attacks weakness. Perhaps the Consulate was a sitting target, and the bad guys waited until they could bring together the resources needed. Perhaps 9/11/12 the militants finally gathered the 150 fighters needed.

Perhaps the bad guys figured out that nobody in the Obama-Hillary State Department bothered to know about the real danger of the Americans in Libya. Now I am sure the militants did not directly know that repeated requests for security upgrades were denied in the months and weeks before the attack. Requests such as a request to put guard towers at B******i.

After the attack, instead of seeking to find out what went wrong, the Obamaites in true Soviet style were far more concerned with covering themselves from blame by concocting this i***tic fairy tale about a video that almost nobody saw until the Administration used it as a cover up tool.
How about a fourth possibility ? Perhaps the bad ... (show quote)


Or how about we believe what the evidence shows rather than go creating new conspiracy theories? Most of the time, the simplest explanation is typically the correct explanation.

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Jun 13, 2019 19:14:06   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
son of witless wrote:
Criminal intent is not a defense in certain offenses. The handling of classified materials is one of those areas. If a person handling top secret materials fails to follow proper procedures he and she is criminally liable, end of story. By having classified materials on her private server, Hillary was guilty of gross negligence and in spite of what that i***t Comey said, she should have been prosecuted. Her offenses were many magnitudes higher than what Gen. Flynn was prosecuted for, but then he should have changed his name to Gen. Clinton. That was Flynn's real crime.
Criminal intent is not a defense in certain offens... (show quote)


So you support charges against those in the Trump administration doing the same thing? They should damn well know what they were and are doing was wrong since such a big stink was made of it when Hillary did it.

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Jun 13, 2019 19:19:55   #
son of witless
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Or how about we believe what the evidence shows rather than go creating new conspiracy theories? Most of the time, the simplest explanation is typically the correct explanation.


My scenario was the simplest. Bad guys sensing weakness means dead Americans. Weakness came from incompetence from Obama to Hillary.

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