It's appalling! (Page 2): Okie: Jack Kennedy defied the CIA in the Bay of Pigs screw-up and THAT sealed his fate. The Mob and the Cuban exiles didn’t have enough “juice” to engineer...

Snoopy

Richard Rowland wrote:

LBJ was the biggest skunk to ever hold the positio... (show quote)

Okie:

Jack Kennedy defied the CIA in the Bay of Pigs screw-up and THAT sealed his fate. The Mob and the Cuban exiles didn’t have enough “juice” to engineer the Kennedy Assassination . . . but the CIA DID!

Snoopy

Big dog

Richard Rowland wrote:

I noticed that a mere twenty-five had checked out ... (show quote)

I read it all and believe every word of it. Our government is quite willing to lie and hide t***hs from it’s citizens for the benefit of the military industrial complex and the deep state that runs it.

Richard Rowland

Big dog wrote:

I read it all and believe every word of it. Our government is quite willing to lie and hide t***hs from it’s citizens for the benefit of the military industrial complex and the deep state that runs it.

It would have been better had I never learned what I now know. It bothers me to learn that our Government has, over time, relinquished representing the whole of the American people. Those sent to Washington have little interest for the concerns of those who sent 'em there.

It's distressing, realizing that our government is being run by those who have been c*********d by a foreign entity. Americas have become little more than a piggybank of blood and treasure to be used by Israel.

I have no allegiance to Israel, and now knowing what I know, a sense of diminished p***e in being an American.

Big dog

Richard Rowland wrote:

It would have been better had I never learned what... (show quote)

The only allegiance I have is to my family, my friends, and my country. Our government is NOT our country.
Our founding fathers set up our country in a way that allows us to take our country back from the government.

Reality

Blade_Runner wrote:

So, you are the chosen one, are you? You are the omniscient oracle who determines who is what and why. Wow, how did you manage to acquire such power? You must have been chosen, right?

Perfect example of what I wrote about. Not one word about what I wrote, instead, pure cognitive dissonance! Denial

Richard Rowland

Big dog wrote:

The only allegiance I have is to my family, my friends, and my country. Our government is NOT our country.
Our founding fathers set up our country in a way that allows us to take our country back from the government.

I don't know, Big dog, it may be a little too late for taking back. The deck would be stacked against an earnest attempt. It would have to happen from the ground up, and that's not usually the way it happens.

woodguru

Carol Kelly wrote:

Nothing in the Bible should be referred to as propaganda. That’s going a bit too far.

Not everything should be taken verbatim either, the bible gets cherry picked to suit the agenda of who's using it, it is a mercurial t***slation of a t***slation, that has gone through it's rewrites, yet nobody seems to be concerned that it was written by men.

woodguru

Big dog wrote:

The only allegiance I have is to my family, my friends, and my country. Our government is NOT our country.
Our founding fathers set up our country in a way that allows us to take our country back from the government.

As seen from a very myopic point of view, much like the hardest right likes to see the bible and Trump.

What about the constitution, rule of law, and a government by the majority of the people that has checks and balances?

Your view of the government as an all bad evil is not my view of the government which if done better can accomplish good things that benefit people.

Big dog

Richard Rowland wrote:

I don't know, Big dog, it may be a little too late for taking back. The deck would be stacked against an earnest attempt. It would have to happen from the ground up, and that's not usually the way it happens.

The way the world is going, Everything may have to start again, from the ground up.

Ricktloml

Reality wrote:

How is it proven time and time again?

Well, you might want to Google what happens every time America proceeds with anti-Israeli policies, rather remarkable read. And of course the Bible is 100% correct when it comes to prophesy

Ricktloml

okie don wrote:

Most don't know about the intentional attack to pull America into the 6 day war with Egypt.
LBJ swept it under the rug.
Israel did make r********ns for damage.

Pennylynn did an admirable job of explaining in detail this tragic friendly fire accident. This isn't the cut and dried topic it is being presented as. Richard seems to have a visceral hatred of Jews

teabag09

proud republican wrote:

This what is appalling....I haven't seen any of you anti-Semi talk about this atrocity!!!....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3341784/New-horrifying-details-emerge-1972-Munich-Olympic-massacre-including-one-athlete-castrated-hostages-watched.html

Lori, I remember that very well. Didn't know about the torture and castration though I'm not surprised. The islamists are animals to their own and worst then animals to infidels. They need to be scoured from the earth. Let them go to their virgins. Mike

Richard Rowland

Ricktloml wrote:

Pennylynn did an admirable job of explaining in detail this tragic friendly fire accident. This isn't the cut and dried topic it is being presented as. Richard seems to have a visceral hatred of Jews

If you're inclined to believe it was an accident of friendly fire, there's a bridge for sale waiting for you somewhere. That pennylenn promotes the nonsense, it was a big mistake, is an indication she's willing to fudge the issue.

She knows better, as do others on this forum who attempt to excuse Israel for a heinous act. By the way, I don't h**e anyone. If pointing out the misdeeds of Israel means I h**e Jews, then the fact that I also criticize the US must mean by your logic that, I h**e Americans as well.

Richard Rowland

Ricktloml wrote:

Well, you might want to Google what happens every time America proceeds with anti-Israeli policies, rather remarkable read. And of course the Bible is 100% correct when it comes to prophesy

Do you mean by anti-Israel policies, wanting the Middle East free from nuclear weapons? Assassinating an American president standing in the way of acquiring nuclear devices?

teabag09

Richard Rowland wrote:

Do you mean by anti-Israel policies, wanting the Middle East free from nuclear weapons? Assassinating an American president standing in the way of acquiring nuclear devices?

Show facts or shut up. Your opinions means nothing without facts to back them up and I'm Irish Catholic, not Jewish. Mike