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Jun 10, 2019 20:17:50   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
emarine wrote:
Good post Morgan buddy … rational debate without the h**e... now if we could only get the jokers in DC to play nicely together & do something resembling work things would improve faster …


Agree,Emarine...

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Jun 10, 2019 20:29:19   #
Morgan
 
emarine wrote:
Good post Morgan buddy … rational debate without the h**e... now if we could only get the jokers in DC to play nicely together & do something resembling work things would improve faster …


Exactly, I'd say one can only hope, but that's not true, we have to do something more than simply hope.

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Jun 10, 2019 20:47:00   #
emarine
 
Morgan wrote:
Exactly, I'd say one can only hope, but that's not true, we have to do something more than simply hope.




I personally think there should be an open season for prodding lobbyists with pitchforks... as long as there is no h**e involved … just pure fun... ...

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Jun 10, 2019 21:48:50   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Morgan wrote:
Not one party...one people.


One spirit!

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Jun 10, 2019 21:58:23   #
maryjane
 
Morgan wrote:
This is just a start, I'm open to suggestions from all, the issue of a******n is a hot issue and off the table for now.

These are just some things off the top of my head.Let's all just try and be civil please, humor is appreciated


Many of us would like to see term limits for all reps and the number of times to be reelected.

To see a push for one official language and everyone who comes in to blend with the one common language, no preferences. Language is the thread that ties us all together as one unified nation, two languages won't do that.

Immigration, I would do what other countries do such as Canada, there would be a five-year wait, even with marriage.
No automatic citizenship simply due to being born on our soil, at least one parent has to be a citizen, either natural born or naturized.

I would end gerrymandering

End any exchange of monies from gifts or trade with lobbyist.

Check the integrity of all v****g methods

Reevaluate the e*******l count. No decisions until all v**es are in, have absent ballads be counted first so they are always included. Find a better order to count the states. California should not be one of the last, that eliminates too many people.

Pass a law that whenever there is a cost of living increase every year, that includes increasing the minimum wage, therby avoiding what we have going on now, a possible jump as we will see now can hurt industries. If maintained yearly this wouldn't happen.

Set some environmental regulations to counter g****l w*****g.

Promote healthcare to be a choice of either public or private.

Rein in profit gouging from big Pharma, that we pay the same as our foreign neighbors and not ten times more.

Have different ratings on violence in movies and gaming and to discourage extreme graphic violence from the industry.

As foreign affairs goes, not sure and open to suggestions,

Protect our wildlife preserves, our waters, and air.

Promote more means to recycle garbage from landfills and water.
This is just a start, I'm open to suggestions from... (show quote)


I would add these. 1. End all legal immigration other than business and tourists, for at least 25 years to give us breathing space to get our country back on track and force assimulation of those millions already here. 2. Stop any/all government/public actions in anything but English (printing documents, reading and speaking the citizenship oath in English only/no interpreters/no changes in the oath for anyone for any reason, no drivers licenses without proficiency in English and proof of auto insurance and proof of citizenship. 3. Do all things needed to guard every inch of our southern border 24/7 and let no unauthorized foreigners into the USA for any reason, including women and children/no entry, period. 4. Provide each involved nation and embassy with a list of all their unaccompanied minor citizens in our country illegally and give them two weeks to prepare to accept custody of their minor citizens for immediate t***sport home. Do this with all minors in detention and all those arriving daily. Once caught up, start rounding up those already in our country. T***sport of the minors and t***sfer of custody to their embassy here and observation of removal from the USA will be handled and observed by border ICE agents and/or US Marshalls. 5. We need Congress to create law: 1. Ending chain migration, Visa lottery, giving preference to third world nations for immigrants, 2. Ending citizenship for refugees/asylees. Restricting grants of refuge/asylum to proof of government persecution based on religion, political views, no more stupid reasons like gangs/poverty/abuse/lack of jobs/climate/death in family/poor government

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Jun 11, 2019 06:40:18   #
Morgan
 
emarine wrote:
I personally think there should be an open season for prodding lobbyists with pitchforks... as long as there is no h**e involved … just pure fun... ...


Sounds like fun to me

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Jun 11, 2019 06:40:57   #
Morgan
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
One spirit!



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Jun 11, 2019 10:06:17   #
bahmer
 
maryjane wrote:
I would add these. 1. End all legal immigration other than business and tourists, for at least 25 years to give us breathing space to get our country back on track and force assimulation of those millions already here. 2. Stop any/all government/public actions in anything but English (printing documents, reading and speaking the citizenship oath in English only/no interpreters/no changes in the oath for anyone for any reason, no drivers licenses without proficiency in English and proof of auto insurance and proof of citizenship. 3. Do all things needed to guard every inch of our southern border 24/7 and let no unauthorized foreigners into the USA for any reason, including women and children/no entry, period. 4. Provide each involved nation and embassy with a list of all their unaccompanied minor citizens in our country illegally and give them two weeks to prepare to accept custody of their minor citizens for immediate t***sport home. Do this with all minors in detention and all those arriving daily. Once caught up, start rounding up those already in our country. T***sport of the minors and t***sfer of custody to their embassy here and observation of removal from the USA will be handled and observed by border ICE agents and/or US Marshalls. 5. We need Congress to create law: 1. Ending chain migration, Visa lottery, giving preference to third world nations for immigrants, 2. Ending citizenship for refugees/asylees. Restricting grants of refuge/asylum to proof of government persecution based on religion, political views, no more stupid reasons like gangs/poverty/abuse/lack of jobs/climate/death in family/poor government
I would add these. 1. End all legal immigration ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Jun 11, 2019 15:09:52   #
GmanTerry
 
Morgan wrote:
This is just a start, I'm open to suggestions from all, the issue of a******n is a hot issue and off the table for now.

These are just some things off the top of my head.Let's all just try and be civil please, humor is appreciated


Many of us would like to see term limits for all reps and the number of times to be reelected.

To see a push for one official language and everyone who comes in to blend with the one common language, no preferences. Language is the thread that ties us all together as one unified nation, two languages won't do that.

Immigration, I would do what other countries do such as Canada, there would be a five-year wait, even with marriage.
No automatic citizenship simply due to being born on our soil, at least one parent has to be a citizen, either natural born or naturized.

I would end gerrymandering

End any exchange of monies from gifts or trade with lobbyist.

Check the integrity of all v****g methods

Reevaluate the e*******l count. No decisions until all v**es are in, have absent ballads be counted first so they are always included. Find a better order to count the states. California should not be one of the last, that eliminates too many people.

Pass a law that whenever there is a cost of living increase every year, that includes increasing the minimum wage, therby avoiding what we have going on now, a possible jump as we will see now can hurt industries. If maintained yearly this wouldn't happen.

Set some environmental regulations to counter g****l w*****g.

Promote healthcare to be a choice of either public or private.

Rein in profit gouging from big Pharma, that we pay the same as our foreign neighbors and not ten times more.

Have different ratings on violence in movies and gaming and to discourage extreme graphic violence from the industry.

As foreign affairs goes, not sure and open to suggestions,

Protect our wildlife preserves, our waters, and air.

Promote more means to recycle garbage from landfills and water.
This is just a start, I'm open to suggestions from... (show quote)


My response os, "Morgan for President"!!!!!!!!!


Semper Fi

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Jun 11, 2019 16:16:16   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
GmanTerry wrote:
My response os, "Morgan for President"!!!!!!!!!


Semper Fi
My response os, "Morgan for President"!!... (show quote)


Now let's not go overboard here. She'd be better than the clown car the Democrats have running but Morgan is no conservative.

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Jun 12, 2019 01:58:16   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
Now let's not go overboard here. She'd be better than the clown car the Democrats have running but Morgan is no conservative.


Not a liberal either

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Jun 12, 2019 09:22:28   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Morgan wrote:
Not a liberal either


As I said before you come across as an "old time" classic liberal. That is someone who has differing views from us dyed in the wool conservatives but wants what's best for the country. Many of our goals are the same. We just see different ways of reaching them. My dad used to say (he was a football coach) that there were many ways to get a football across the goal line, Each way was worth six points, so you kids, usually my sister and I, shut up and quit arguing. Todays left is not about country, they seem to be more about everyone else's country. It also seems to me way to many people and especially politicians on both sides are more about party than country.

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Jun 12, 2019 16:12:57   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
As I said before you come across as an "old time" classic liberal. That is someone who has differing views from us dyed in the wool conservatives but wants what's best for the country. Many of our goals are the same. We just see different ways of reaching them. My dad used to say (he was a football coach) that there were many ways to get a football across the goal line, Each way was worth six points, so you kids, usually my sister and I, shut up and quit arguing. Todays left is not about country, they seem to be more about everyone else's country. It also seems to me way to many people and especially politicians on both sides are more about party than country.
As I said before you come across as an "old t... (show quote)


It does seem to be going that way, which is sad. My dad was a conservative Republican, for him, liberal was practically a bad word. How you described an old fashion liberal is about how he'd describe a Democrat, he didn't v**e for JFK, but I think he liked what he had to say in his speeches. I believe many conservatives thought as he did.

I was a Republican until Bush

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Jun 12, 2019 16:21:42   #
bahmer
 
Morgan wrote:
It does seem to be going that way, which is sad.


why is it so sad at least with the old time classic liberal you could reasonably discuss things and come up with plans together with conservatives with just a little give and take on both sides. That was the way it used to be and the country functioned quite well that way. Now with the super liberal left wing socialist type it is constant stalemate and nothing gets done and nothing gets accomplished because one side is so far out that it is like they left the plantation or something. You need to bring your side back and have more normal discussions instead of far out left field demands all the time.

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Jun 13, 2019 08:16:14   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
why is it so sad at least with the old time classic liberal you could reasonably discuss things and come up with plans together with conservatives with just a little give and take on both sides. That was the way it used to be and the country functioned quite well that way. Now with the super liberal left wing socialist type it is constant stalemate and nothing gets done and nothing gets accomplished because one side is so far out that it is like they left the plantation or something. You need to bring your side back and have more normal discussions instead of far out left field demands all the time.
why is it so sad at least with the old time classi... (show quote)

My friend, can't you see that moderates from either/both sides see the problem just as prevalent from the ultra conservatively zealous political partisans

For example, it was failed Indiana GOP Senatorial candidate Richard Mourdock who was quoted as saying, "I have a mindset that says bi-partisanship ought to consist of democrats coming to the republican point of view."

That particular quote was considered a major factor for his defeat in a predominately red state, and rightfully so.

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