ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

This article raises questions on both the citizenship issue, as well as whether congresswoman Omar can legally hold office.

Question 1: Do you think this issue will be clarified by congresswoman Omar, and that she will provide authenticated documentation of naturalization records to settle this issue?

Question 2: If she refuses to do so, what is your opinion on what should be done, if anything?

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/does-ilhan-omar-hold-congressional-office-illegally-citizenship-in-question

Kevyn

She is a naturalized citizen and as such is eligible to serve in Congress. She has no obligation to entertain fools like Hal Turner and their crackpot conspiracy theories. He can piss off.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

This from a man who takes any tidbit floating around, reflecting poorly on Donald Trump, Republicans and conservatives as gospel.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Man? That's questionable.

Gatsby

It would seem that Rep.(?) Omar knowing lied about her age when she filed as a candidate.

How would that not be "E******n F***d"?

Common_Sense_Matters

US Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 2 wrote:
No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.


Ilhan Abdullahi Omar (born October 4, 1982)

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (born October 13, 1989)

There is also:

Elise Marie Stefanik ( born July 2, 1984)

Abby Lea Finkenauer (born December 27, 1988)

They are BOTH. Stefanik and Finkenauer, younger than Ilhan Omar, as is AOC, the youngest of the 4 mentioned, Omar being the oldest of the 4. Might there be some Islamophobia involved in this thread?

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

You are either missing the point of the article, or did not read the article.

Hal Turner is questioning the legality of her citizenship.

"Interviews and the public record provide that Congresswoman Ilhan Omar claims to have obtained U.S. citizenship in the year 2000 as a 17-year-old, a minor."

"There are three paths a foreign-born child may obtain U.S. citizenship through their parents:[3]

· Acquisition of citizenship

· Derivation of citizenship

· Application for citizenship under Section 322 of the Immigration and Naturalization Act

Acquisition of citizenship for Ilhan Omar would not apply because one or both parents must have been U.S. citizens at the time of her birth in Somalia.

Citizenship by derivation requires that foreign-born children who turned 18 years old on or after February 27, 2001, are eligible to gain citizenship through their parents. Ilhan Omar’s widely published birth date of October 4, 1981 means she turned 18 in 1999 and 19 in 2000, and therefore, was ineligible to gain citizenship by derivation.

And finally, Certificate of Citizenship under I.N.A. Section 322 would require Ilhan Omar’s father having already obtained U.S. citizenship before she turned 18 years of age. But given the Omar family arrived in the U.S. in 1995, and adult refugees having a five-year waiting period, means Ilhan’s father could not have applied for naturalization until the year 2000—when Ilhan was an adult. Ilhan Omar could not have gained citizenship through her father under I.N.A. Section 322."

It is not the age of the candidate, nor is it "Islamophobia" that is driving this issue. It is whether or not she has met the citizenship requirement to be a candidate in the first place.

I find it strange that this issue should be cropping up now. One would think and expect that any candidate running for office would be properly vetted to make sure they quality. Is this a spurious issue, or did someone drop the ball here?

Gatsby

It would seem that Rep.(?) Omar knowing lied when she filed as a candidate.

How would that not be "E******n F***d"?

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Kevyn - You say she is a naturalized citizen, but simply saying it does not make it so. If what Hal Turner is stating in his article is correct, that does not seem possible.

"Ilhan’s Oct 4, 1981, date of birth clearly corroborates that she was not 17 years old in 2000 when she claims to have obtained citizenship as a minor, but rather 18 turning 19. Thus, she seems have have been an actual adult, but appears to some people to have applied fully two years beyond what would be allowed for naturalization through her father."

See my response to CSM which goes further into the alternative pathways to citizenship, and why these do not work for Ms. Omar.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Another question is who is vetting candidates to make sure that they qualify to run for office in the first place. Do they simply take someone's word without requiring the necessary paperwork to back up a potential office seeker's qualifications to run for office.

Common_Sense_Matters

Just because conspiracy theorists like to alter the facts, in this case her date of birth, that doesn't change the fact that she was born on October 4, 1982.

You are also assuming another incorrect fact in your assertion, that they came over here in 1995 and not 1992 as they ACTUALLY did. They secured asylum in the U.S. in 1995, but they came to live in New York in 1992. You don't have to believe everything you read on alt-right conspiracy theory websites or see on youtube.

Common_Sense_Matters

Only if you ignore the facts.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Interesting. Then why did "Ilhan Omar’s Minnesota legislative page has shown her date of birth to be Oct 4, 1981, since her e******n to the state legislature in 2016."?

"Interviews and the public record provide that Congresswoman Ilhan Omar claims to have obtained U.S. citizenship in the year 2000 as a 17-year-old, a minor.

In every instance, where we find Ilhan having been interviewed by reputable news outlets, her age is reported to have been 17 in 2000."

I'm simply asking a question based upon published information, some of which was put out by Omar herself.

Common_Sense_Matters

Obviously you took the theorist at his word and never looked for yourself then I see, Typical.



Source: https://www.leg.state.mn.us/legdb/fulldetail?id=15470



Learn to do your own research and NOT take EVERY conspiracy theorist at their word.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

The lady has been through the mill and then some by the Minnesota GOP..



however, they could not keep her out of office and gee, she won rather well.

hard to read this lousy copy, but she got over 77% of the v**e.. the only penalty which she was assessed for any of the slander was to repay 3,500 dollars for travel..




Minnesota's 5th congressional district, 2018[49]
Party Candidate V**es %
DFL Ilhan Omar 267,703 77.97
Republican Jennifer Zielinski 74,440 21.68
n/a Write-ins 1,215 0.35
Total v**es 343,358 100.0
DFL hold



Committee assignments
116th Congress (2019–21)[50][51][52]
United States House Committee on Education and Labor
United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs
Party leadership and caucus memberships

Congressional Black Caucus
Congressional Progressive Caucus
Congressional committee assignments


for the record...

Early life and education
Omar was born in Mogadishu on October 4, 1982,[4][5] and spent her early years in Baidoa, Somalia.[6][7] She was the youngest of seven siblings, including Sahra Noor. Her father Nur Omar Mohamed, an ethnic Somali, worked as a teacher trainer,[8] and her mother, Fadhuma Abukar Haji Hussein, a Benadiri (a community of partial Yemeni descent), died when Ilhan was two.[9][10][11][12] She was raised by her father and grandfather thereafter.[13] Her grandfather Abukar was the director of Somalia's National Marine T***sport and some of Omar's uncles and aunts also worked as civil servants and educators.[8] She and her family fled Somalia to escape the war and spent four years in a Dadaab refugee camp in Garissa County, Kenya, near the Somali border.[14][15][16]

After first arriving in New York in 1992,[17] Omar's family finally secured asylum in the U.S. in 1995 and lived for a time in Arlington, Virginia,[11] before moving to and settling in Minneapolis,[11] where her father worked first as a taxi driver and later for the post office.[11] Her father and grandfather emphasized the importance of democracy during her upbringing, and at age 14 she accompanied her grandfather to caucus meetings, serving as his interpreter.[13][18] Omar became a U.S. citizen in 2000 when she was 17 years old.[19][11] She has spoken about being bullied for wearing a hijab during her time in Virginia, recalling classmates sticking gum on it, pushing her down stairs, and jumping her when changing for gym class.[11] Omar remembers her father's reaction to these incidents: "They are doing something to you because they feel threatened in some way by your existence."[11]

Omar attended Edison High School and volunteered there as a student organizer.[20] She graduated from North Dakota State University[18] with bachelor's degrees in political science and international studies in 2011.[21] Omar was a Policy Fellow at the University of Minnesota's Humphrey School of Public Affairs.[22]