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Jun 3, 2019 01:24:26   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Some say it is as is told in the report.
A video was recently posted explaining how the Go Fund Me wall project was a $23,000,000 s**m. I said I would wait and see. Then this popped up in my email and I couldn't resist. The video is short...I won't tell you what's in it...just watch it and see for yourself.

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Jun 3, 2019 01:31:50   #
JW
 
maximus wrote:
Some say it is as is told in the report.
A video was recently posted explaining how the Go Fund Me wall project was a $23,000,000 s**m. I said I would wait and see. Then this popped up in my email and I couldn't resist. The video is short...I won't tell you what's in it...just watch it and see for yourself.


Provide a link, please.

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Jun 3, 2019 01:32:59   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
maximus wrote:
Some say it is as is told in the report.
A video was recently posted explaining how the Go Fund Me wall project was a $23,000,000 s**m. I said I would wait and see. Then this popped up in my email and I couldn't resist. The video is short...I won't tell you what's in it...just watch it and see for yourself.


Hard to watch a video linked to in your inbox without you providing a link or someone hacking into your inbox.

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Jun 3, 2019 02:12:42   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
maximus wrote:
Some say it is as is told in the report.
A video was recently posted explaining how the Go Fund Me wall project was a $23,000,000 s**m. I said I would wait and see. Then this popped up in my email and I couldn't resist. The video is short...I won't tell you what's in it...just watch it and see for yourself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIyBpiOI5rY

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Jun 3, 2019 02:13:42   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Hard to watch a video linked to in your inbox without you providing a link or someone hacking into your inbox.


Very sorry, it's getting late and I'm tired. Thank you for letting me know.

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Jun 3, 2019 02:14:37   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
JW wrote:
Provide a link, please.


I'm so sorry, it's late. The link is up.

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Jun 3, 2019 02:30:53   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
maximus wrote:
I'm so sorry, it's late. The link is up.


No Problem, will view the video, in a few moments.

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Jun 3, 2019 04:36:57   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
No Problem, will view the video, in a few moments.


Took longer than expected to get to looking at it. I watched the video then went to look the area over via satellite imaging, not sure when the image was taken but wanted a basic idea of the geography of the area in question. I zoomed the image in as close as it would go and didn't see the two parking lots separated by a small ditch, perhaps the ditch is new and the "parking lots" may just be a way to describe an area that could be used to park but not an actual parking lot.

It is possible that We Build the Wall is actually building one, though another conservative media outlet recently ran a story skeptical of whether they were or not so...

https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/donors-of-border-wall-gofundme-demand-answers-after-months-of-no-construction/

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Jun 3, 2019 05:09:24   #
JW
 
maximus wrote:
I'm so sorry, it's late. The link is up.


Thanks. I had heard they were building it and the mayor is trying to stop them. The video confirms it, thanks again.

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Jun 3, 2019 10:21:02   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Took longer than expected to get to looking at it. I watched the video then went to look the area over via satellite imaging, not sure when the image was taken but wanted a basic idea of the geography of the area in question. I zoomed the image in as close as it would go and didn't see the two parking lots separated by a small ditch, perhaps the ditch is new and the "parking lots" may just be a way to describe an area that could be used to park but not an actual parking lot.

It is possible that We Build the Wall is actually building one, though another conservative media outlet recently ran a story skeptical of whether they were or not so...

https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/donors-of-border-wall-gofundme-demand-answers-after-months-of-no-construction/
Took longer than expected to get to looking at it.... (show quote)


That's a good idea. I'm gonna look on google earth for it.

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Jun 3, 2019 13:46:37   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
maximus wrote:
That's a good idea. I'm gonna look on google earth for it.


You won't find it, the images available online are of unknown date and time. That doesn't mean he ISN'T building it there nor that he IS. I am somewhat skeptical about Brian Kolf*ge as he has defrauded donors in the past. He had a gofundme page set up for a mentoring program for veterans and listed several veterans hospitals that he claimed to be running a mentoring program at and the administrators say he hasn't. He has also run f**e news sites for profit before as well. That of course does not mean that his current project is a s**m though, he may have had a change of heart or he may actually care about getting the wall built enough that he will actually follow through on this one. There is also the publicity factor, this project has so much publicity that if he we intending to s**m the donors, there would likely be no way that he could get away with it as well known as this one is. That alone SHOULD be enough encouragement to follow through or have his reputation so badly tarnished he would never be able to s**m again.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/424860-veteran-behind-gofundme-for-trumps-wall-allegedly-pocketed

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Jun 3, 2019 17:34:24   #
bahmer
 
maximus wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIyBpiOI5rY


Awesome thanks for the video.

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Jun 4, 2019 12:16:39   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
You won't find it, the images available online are of unknown date and time. That doesn't mean he ISN'T building it there nor that he IS. I am somewhat skeptical about Brian Kolf*ge as he has defrauded donors in the past. He had a gofundme page set up for a mentoring program for veterans and listed several veterans hospitals that he claimed to be running a mentoring program at and the administrators say he hasn't. He has also run f**e news sites for profit before as well. That of course does not mean that his current project is a s**m though, he may have had a change of heart or he may actually care about getting the wall built enough that he will actually follow through on this one. There is also the publicity factor, this project has so much publicity that if he we intending to s**m the donors, there would likely be no way that he could get away with it as well known as this one is. That alone SHOULD be enough encouragement to follow through or have his reputation so badly tarnished he would never be able to s**m again.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/424860-veteran-behind-gofundme-for-trumps-wall-allegedly-pocketed
You won't find it, the images available online are... (show quote)


You were right...I couldn't find it. I guess I'll try Google Maps satellite view.
I haven't researched him being a s**mmer, but if he is trying to s**m something as big as this, he is a madman.
I DID read this about him recently. He had a following on one of the social medias, and had spent over $100,000 on his channel or wh**ever it's called. He is a conservative and from what I've seen, his channel was deleted for his political views only. It's beginning to come to light that this is happening to many, many conservatives...the social media (Facebook for instance) is coming up with new algorithms to hunt down these views, and are deciding for themselves what should be censored.
Except for true h**e speech, every American has the right to free speech. Conservatives are being kept out of collages. On the other hand, one collage allowed a guy to say that Jews ought to be set on fire and said that was protected speech. If you don't see the hypocrisy in that, then any further statements will be lost on you. ( No intent to insult you).
My point is, from what I've seen the vet is not a s**mmer, but I could always be wrong. When you read that he is, consider the source as in are they jumping the gun on a story, are they known to broadcast f**e stories, are they politically motivated in putting the story out there.
For what it's worth, the vid I posted shows that a wall section (small, but important)IS being built.

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Jun 4, 2019 13:57:40   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
maximus wrote:
You were right...I couldn't find it. I guess I'll try Google Maps satellite view.
I haven't researched him being a s**mmer, but if he is trying to s**m something as big as this, he is a madman.
I DID read this about him recently. He had a following on one of the social medias, and had spent over $100,000 on his channel or wh**ever it's called. He is a conservative and from what I've seen, his channel was deleted for his political views only. It's beginning to come to light that this is happening to many, many conservatives...the social media (Facebook for instance) is coming up with new algorithms to hunt down these views, and are deciding for themselves what should be censored.
Except for true h**e speech, every American has the right to free speech. Conservatives are being kept out of collages. On the other hand, one collage allowed a guy to say that Jews ought to be set on fire and said that was protected speech. If you don't see the hypocrisy in that, then any further statements will be lost on you. ( No intent to insult you).
My point is, from what I've seen the vet is not a s**mmer, but I could always be wrong. When you read that he is, consider the source as in are they jumping the gun on a story, are they known to broadcast f**e stories, are they politically motivated in putting the story out there.
For what it's worth, the vid I posted shows that a wall section (small, but important)IS being built.
You were right...I couldn't find it. I guess I'll ... (show quote)


No, his pages were removed for the f**e news he was spreading and profiting from. As for other conservatives that have lost their pages, I couldn't say but merely speculate upon. There are many conservatives that have no issues on FB, then there are those very vocal ones that do. If I were to speculate, I would have to say they did something to cause the loss of their FB pages. Something such as promoting f**e news or violating other terms of service such as offensive language or images.

FB wrote:
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Combat harmful conduct and protect and support our... (show quote)


FB wrote:
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- That violates these Terms, our Community Standards, and other terms and policies
that apply to your use of Facebook.

- That is unlawful, misleading, discriminatory or fraudulent.

- That infringes or violates someone else's rights.

2. You may not upload v***ses or malicious code or do anything that could disable, overburden, or impair the proper working or appearance of our Products.

3. You may not access or collect data from our Products using automated means (without our prior permission) or attempt to access data you do not have permission to access.
You may not use our Products to do or share anythi... (show quote)


Facebook is a social media company and as such, they naturally wish to make their platform comfortable, easy to use and protect their patrons from abuses and more rercently, false information. They are not a government entity and are threrefore not bound by the first amendment and can at their discretion, remove content or users they or their patrons find offensive or harmful. Below are a set of links that some might find helpful in getting to know what they can or can not share. I am sure they like other companies, retain the right to add or modify them at their discretion.

https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/

https://www.facebook.com/legal/commercial_terms

https://www.facebook.com/policies/ads/

https://www.facebook.com/legal/self_service_ads_terms

https://www.facebook.com/policies/pages_groups_events/

https://www.facebook.com/policies/commerce

https://www.facebook.com/legal/music_guidelines

If you play by the rules, typically, you shall have nothing to fear from the "ban police".

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Jun 5, 2019 00:13:27   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Facebook is a social media company and as such, they naturally wish to make their platform comfortable, easy to use and protect their patrons from abuses and more rercently, false information. They are not a government entity and are threrefore not bound by the first amendment and can at their discretion, remove content or users they or their patrons find offensive or harmful. Below are a set of links that some might find helpful in getting to know what they can or can not share. I am sure they like other companies, retain the right to add or modify them at their discretion.

https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/

https://www.facebook.com/legal/commercial_terms

https://www.facebook.com/policies/ads/

https://www.facebook.com/legal/self_service_ads_terms

https://www.facebook.com/policies/pages_groups_events/

https://www.facebook.com/policies/commerce

https://www.facebook.com/legal/music_guidelines

If you play by the rules, typically, you shall have nothing to fear from the "ban police".
Facebook is a social media company and as such, th... (show quote)




I'm sure that some conservatives violate guidelines. However, ( I can't even think of his name) this vet was stating his political opinion, and his channel was deleted with no warning and no offer of the money he spent building his Page. The same happened to Diamond and Silk, as they testified in front of congress. Eventually, they got their webpage back. Here's another;
Charles Johnson, who’s a conservative gadfly, is currently suing Twitter because it admitted that he didn’t violate Twitter’s policies; Twitter just wanted to get rid of him. It’s good to know that if you’re conservative, you can spend years building up an audience on Twitter and the liberals at Twitter can arbitrarily throw you off their service because they decide they don’t like your views.
And another;
Dennis Prager’s PragerU is suing YouTube for exactly that reason. Just to give you an example of the sort of content YouTube thinks is over-the-line, here are some of the videos it demonetized: Why America Must Lead, The Ten Commandments: Do Not Murder, Why Did America Fight the Korean War, and The World’s Most Persecuted Minority: Christians. Of course, YouTube would claim that it’s not censoring the videos because it didn’t take them down. However, people are not going to spend large amounts of time and money putting together high-production-value videos if they’re not going to be allowed to make money on those videos because of their political beliefs.
Here's the response to Facebook's censorship on USA Today;
A joint statement this week from more than 60 conservatives, including former attorney general Edwin Meese and Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, demanded that Facebook and other tech giants "rectify their credibility with the conservative movement" by explaining why content is taken down and accounts deleted and by including more conservative groups on its list of advisers.
"Social media censorship and online restriction of conservatives and their organizations have reached a crisis level," the statement read. "Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s hearings on Capitol Hill only served to draw attention to how widespread this problem has become."
"I think it's wholly right that conservatives want to be treated fairly and enjoy the benefits of the service like anyone else," Kitchen told USA TODAY. "If Facebook is doing a reasonable job of that now, it’s up to Facebook to make that case. If there are systemic problems, they should deal with that, not only to do well as a company, but also for the sake of consumers to provide the best product possible."

The growing chorus of conservatives demanding answers from Facebook comes after the disclosure that 87 million people had their data improperly obtained by Cambridge Analytica drew bipartisan condemnation.
Facebook IS a company and it sells a social business...having a bias against one group of people constitutes discrimination. Face book reaches SO many people that if only liberals are allowed to voice their political views, then that's as much e******n tampering as anything that the Russians were accused of.
I want to hear liberal views as much as conservative. If you don't hear both sides, how can you know what the debate is really about?
I'll check this guy out anyway cause I'm not saying either one of us is correct.
The main point about this thread is that at least SOME of the $24,000,000 he has taken in, IS getting spent building the wall ( a small section but evidentially important). I understand that there is also other construction going on, funded by this money. We'll see what else comes up about it. Deal?

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