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May 15, 2019 21:27:49   #
archie bunker (a regular here)
 
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?

This could go on, and on........

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May 15, 2019 21:41:42   #
PeterS (a regular here)
 
archie bunker wrote:
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?

This could go on, and on........
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit?... (show quote)

And what makes you think Trade Schools aren't pushed even a little bit? The majority of kids who graduate HS today can't make it through a 4-year college so ARE being steered towards the trades else they should be happy with MickyD's...

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May 15, 2019 22:09:42   #
Iliamna1 (a regular here)
 
I agree totally. Many children aren't gifted in math or literature, but they're very educable in laying carpet or putting up sheet rock. There are many trades that are begging for applicants that pay well. Teach them a good work ethic and a skill that gives them autonomy.

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May 15, 2019 22:16:43   #
archie bunker (a regular here)
 
PeterS wrote:
And what makes you think Trade Schools aren't pushed even a little bit? The majority of kids who graduate HS today can't make it through a 4-year college so ARE being steered towards the trades else they should be happy with MickyD's...


Back that one up. Prove it. No shop classes in Jr high, and high school. Where do you get that?

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May 15, 2019 22:29:29   #
Wonttakeitanymore (a regular here)
 
PeterS wrote:
And what makes you think Trade Schools aren't pushed even a little bit? The majority of kids who graduate HS today can't make it through a 4-year college so ARE being steered towards the trades else they should be happy with MickyD's...


My nephew is an electrician, steady work and prob makes more than a college grad that has to work at amazon or mickys! Owns a home and paid off truck no student debt! Jerkoff

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May 15, 2019 22:29:56   #
Coos Bay Tom (a regular here)
 
archie bunker wrote:
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?

This could go on, and on........
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit?... (show quote)
In my day we had wood shop-- Machine shop ---Automotive shop and welding offered as courses----Now a thing of the past. After my military days I went into Carpenters Apprenticeship offered by the Carpenters Union. Now Unions are hated villians by the right wing. We have a lack of good tradesmen and an over abundance of computer engineers. We have awful representation and dipshits in charge of school districts who care only about delegating authority and demanding more money and benefits.

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May 15, 2019 22:59:10   #
PeterS (a regular here)
 
archie bunker wrote:
Back that one up. Prove it. No shop classes in Jr high, and high school. Where do you get that?

What does JH shop have to do with trades? Honest to god Archie, you are something else. Here in Dallas our Community Colleges are very much geared to develop quality tradespeople from auto mechanics to Bakery Chiefs. And yes, our high schools do push students into these programs--because as I said--the majority of today's HS students can't make it through a 4-year institution. https://www.dcccd.edu/pages/default.aspx

They might even have a spot for you...

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May 15, 2019 23:01:36   #
PeterS (a regular here)
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
In my day we had wood shop-- Machine shop ---Automotive shop and welding offered as courses----Now a thing of the past. After my military days I went into Carpenters Apprenticeship offered by the Carpenters Union. Now Unions are hated villians by the right wing. We have a lack of good tradesmen and an over abundance of computer engineers. We have awful representation and dipshits in charge of school districts who care only about delegating authority and demanding more money and benefits.

Here in Dallas, these have all Trades have been pushed to our Community Colleges. They are excellent programs and yes, students are steered to them...

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May 16, 2019 01:02:13   #
debeda (a regular here)
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
In my day we had wood shop-- Machine shop ---Automotive shop and welding offered as courses----Now a thing of the past. After my military days I went into Carpenters Apprenticeship offered by the Carpenters Union. Now Unions are hated villians by the right wing. We have a lack of good tradesmen and an over abundance of computer engineers. We have awful representation and dipshits in charge of school districts who care only about delegating authority and demanding more money and benefits.


I agree with you on all except that the unions are hated by the right. Many unions supported President Trump and I'm guessing more will in 2020. You're SO right about tradesmen. In the 80s everyone wanted to be a lawyer and the market was flooded with juris doctors. Then in the 90s it was an MBA. 2000s - computer tech. Good grief!

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May 16, 2019 02:15:28   #
redpill
 
archie bunker wrote:
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?

This could go on, and on........
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit?... (show quote)

Our high school has welding, wood shop, and auto mechanics.

BTW Arch, how about just a little more subject line for the topic? Why just Why?

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May 16, 2019 02:21:12   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
archie bunker wrote:
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?

This could go on, and on........
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit?... (show quote)


We actually have Occupational Centers all over the Valley where i live...

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May 16, 2019 05:56:21   #
PeterS (a regular here)
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
My nephew is an electrician, steady work and prob makes more than a college grad that has to work at amazon or mickys! Owns a home and paid off truck no student debt! Jerkoff

Good for him. As I have been saying the majority of high school students today can't make it through a 4-year college so they are just wasting their time trying. I live in the Dallas area and our Community Colleges offer every trade imaginable. And the advantage of a CC is that they are very cheap and you can learn a trade without going into debt up the wazoo...

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May 16, 2019 10:36:02   #
Coos Bay Tom (a regular here)
 
PeterS wrote:
Here in Dallas, these have all Trades have been pushed to our Community Colleges. They are excellent programs and yes, students are steered to them...


They should be in High Schools-- Most people never go to college-- They can't.

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May 16, 2019 12:30:09   #
F.D.R. (a regular here)
 
I told my boys at an early age "If you can fix stuff you'll never starve". The high school I attended from '55 - '59 had two divisions, Senior for business & academic and Technical. I took classes in both and it's really paid off.

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May 16, 2019 17:36:01   #
archie bunker (a regular here)
 
PeterS wrote:
What does JH shop have to do with trades? Honest to god Archie, you are something else. Here in Dallas our Community Colleges are very much geared to develop quality tradespeople from auto mechanics to Bakery Chiefs. And yes, our high schools do push students into these programs--because as I said--the majority of today's HS students can't make it through a 4-year institution. https://www.dcccd.edu/pages/default.aspx

They might even have a spot for you...


Shop classes plant the seeds, and start developing skills, and knowledge needed to pursue a career in one of the trades. They also spawn interest in trades.

And I did attend a couple of trade schools, and worked with a Master for some time before going out on my own.

Now that I've settled that, you wanna take another shot at my family? I'm expecting it, so bring it.

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