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May 15, 2019 18:36:23   #
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May 15, 2019 18:40:31   #
archie bunker (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
And why, in any blasphemous name would Iran want to provoke a response???

If anything goes down, Iran will be blasted into a rubble heap depending on how much ordinance we dump on them..

with Bolton and company chomping for 20 years to get Iran, the minor damage done to the ships look much more like one of your false flag incidents than anything else..

Just building an excuse for another oil war, this one with long time american oil enemy Iran..

It seem so obvious, the war hawks are in tears trying to get it started with Iran..

a rouge nation is out and about..

What makes me gnash my teeth is that it seems to be my own beloved nation on a mission to kill.

Bastards... all of em..
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Why, pray tell do we need an oil war? We are the largest producer on the planet now.
You need to let go of that lie. We took no oil from Iraq, and it wasn't about oil. I'm not sure what that was about, but it shouldn't have happened.
Iran is a different story. They need taken down a notch.

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May 15, 2019 19:35:32   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
son of witless wrote:
We would not blast them into a " rubble heap ". The Left Wing Press would show Iranian Children being murdered by American bombs and America would be the bad guy. You remember when the Democratically Controlled Press did that during the Iraq War in order to hurt America and damage George W. Bush ????????????????????????????????????????????????

Iran is being slowly strangled by American Policies. Why do you think that desperate Iranian Leaders would blink on provoking an American Response. If you could take off your anti Trump fog glasses for one second you might see what is going on.
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As was mentioned a couple posts back, why would the leaders of Iran want to end their power, maybe their lives?

No Iran would like to needle us but not have a war with us..
the pain Iran would face..
the pain Iran would face.....

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May 15, 2019 19:39:24   #
Blade_Runner (a regular here)
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Your take on things is as likely a possibility as any. My hope is that regardless of the provocation, Trump doesn't let Pompeo or Bolton or anyone else dictate the course of action. Our response should be measured and and direct.
I sincerely doubt that Pompeo or Bolton are the war hawks you seem to think they are. They are not stupid men.

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May 15, 2019 19:41:10   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
archie bunker wrote:
Why, pray tell do we need an oil war? We are the largest producer on the planet now.
You need to let go of that lie. We took no oil from Iraq, and it wasn't about oil. I'm not sure what that was about, but it shouldn't have happened.
Iran is a different story. They need taken down a notch.



It is always about oil, even when it does not work for possession, it works on world prices..

Oil companies are like trump himself, never can have enough, gotta have it all..
My drinking horns, I should use them soon..
My drinking horns, I should use them soon.....

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May 15, 2019 19:42:33   #
BigMike (a regular here)
 
Lonewolf wrote:
who damaged the oil tankers Saudi Arabia or Israel and what business is it to us?
Or is this coming war just to make trump more electable!


What if neither of them did it?

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May 15, 2019 19:46:51   #
archie bunker (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
It is always about oil, even when it does not work for possession, it works on world prices..

Oil companies are like trump himself, never can have enough, gotta have it all..


You don't drink out of a horn. You drink out of a faucet, hose, can, or bottle like all of us other mortals.

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May 15, 2019 19:47:22   #
son of witless (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
As was mentioned a couple posts back, why would the leaders of Iran want to end their power, maybe their lives?

No Iran would like to needle us but not have a war with us..


There is war and then there is war. When you think war, you think WW2. Yea we would win that one. There are many other types of wars, Cold Wars, Guerilla Wars, and Proxy Wars. The British lost the Revolutionary war to thirteen little colonies because they were tied down all over the World in battles with the French and could never bring to bare sufficient force to crush us in a Guerilla War. We were defeated in a Guerilla War in Vietnam. Iran could hope to engage us in that type of war, plus they may calculate that like Obama, Trump does not have the stomach for a war and maybe he will buy them off like Obama did with cash.

They don't know my boy Donald very well, do they ?

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May 15, 2019 19:51:29   #
archie bunker (a regular here)
 
son of witless wrote:
There is war and then there is war. When you think war, you think WW2. Yea we would win that one. There are many other types of wars, Cold Wars, Guerilla Wars, and Proxy Wars. The British lost the Revolutionary war to thirteen little colonies because they were tied down all over the World in battles with the French and could never bring to bare sufficient force to crush us in a Guerilla War. We were defeated in a Guerilla War in Vietnam. Iran could hope to engage us in that type of war, plus they may calculate that like Obama, Trump does not have the stomach for a war and maybe he will buy them off like Obama did with cash.

They don't know my boy Donald very well, do they ?
There is war and then there is war. When you think... (show quote)


I think that if Trump goes to war on them, it'll be short, and sweet!

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May 15, 2019 20:12:31   #
RT friend (a regular here)
 
Ron Paul Liberty Report, it's all about Iraq, closing Iraqi Embasy, Liberty Report calls
It "US Abandons Embassy", probably not true, but this must indicate the Bolton faction is performing for their patrons in the Gulf putting on a show in a safe place, not a bad idea these guys with the pay think $ are only grains of rice.

These Wahhabies are simpletons used only to dealing with slaves.

Watch Iraq Government respond, Bolton is isolating the US in the Middle East, and listen to R.Pauls conclusion.

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May 15, 2019 20:27:00   #
moldyoldy (a regular here)
 
The military commander in the ME, disagrees with Bolton and trump, so he will be replaced quickly. trump thinks a war will win it for him because it worked for bush.

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May 15, 2019 20:28:25   #
BigMike (a regular here)
 
RT friend wrote:
I don't think war will make Trump electable, the Democrats will run on the Peace ticket and that always wins.

Particularly against an enemy that can't lose, I can say for sure the al-Wahhab guys don't want to pay for 100k US Troops holidaying in GCC States, because if they do that real Salafists will revolt, the only place loyal that would accept 100k US Troops are Jordan and Kurdish parts of Syria but I doubt if the Wahhabis will pay for that either.

And if they did Jordan wouldn't accommodate them with China and Russia supporting Iran, I could be wrong but the King of Jordan like the King of Saudi Arabia is very much a supporter of Russia and China.

The thing to remember is that cheap hits against Iran will be met with disguised hits against KSA /UAE by disgruntled Salafists that many Citizens of those two Countries support that's what the sabotage of UAE was all about, Trump has to factor this assessment in to his decisions.
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Trump won't be baited into a war by these nincompoops. Listen to the peanut gallery comment, though!

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May 15, 2019 20:30:22   #
Fit2BTied (a regular here)
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I sincerely doubt that Pompeo or Bolton are the war hawks you seem to think they are. They are not stupid men.
All the better. I profess I'm not the expert when it comes to these 2.

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May 15, 2019 20:32:10   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
archie bunker wrote:
You don't drink out of a horn. You drink out of a faucet, hose, can, or bottle like all of us other mortals.




Well yes,,, but if I could, i would...

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May 15, 2019 20:36:41   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
son of witless wrote:
There is war and then there is war. When you think war, you think WW2. Yea we would win that one. There are many other types of wars, Cold Wars, Guerilla Wars, and Proxy Wars. The British lost the Revolutionary war to thirteen little colonies because they were tied down all over the World in battles with the French and could never bring to bare sufficient force to crush us in a Guerilla War. We were defeated in a Guerilla War in Vietnam. Iran could hope to engage us in that type of war, plus they may calculate that like Obama, Trump does not have the stomach for a war and maybe he will buy them off like Obama did with cash.

They don't know my boy Donald very well, do they ?
There is war and then there is war. When you think... (show quote)




I was going to agree with you until you started dising President Obama..

simply because he understood the public s unwilling to continue wars and did not wish to send other peoples kids to die, you bitch about him..

now trump the bone spurs draft dodger will send other people kids to die in a heart beat or less..

And for this you love him!!??

son, sit, have a cold one and think... have a good night , i am near done with this today..

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