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May 16, 2019 20:44:44   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
I would never doubt the audubon.. great organization..

Siting could well be added for consideration of the bird deaths..

but I think it will be a bit down the list..

While bird deaths should be avoided if at all possable, they have been with us a long long time..

It is now given attention mostly as a tactic by anti renewable..

After all, by far the most birds are k**led by collisions with windows of all sorts.. wind mills are not even close..


If you or I had something we constructed on our properties that was k*****g sacred raptors, Uncle Obama or Uncle Sam would be fining our White Asses for every Bald Eagle, Falcon, Raptor, Condor, and Street Pigeon that we butchered. Ah, but let us call our contraption a " green " wh**ever, and say it is fighting Global Freaking Warming and you and I will get pass.

You can rationalize the k*****g of sacred raptors all that you want to, but it is still RATIONALIZATION !

You see my good friend, I seek out hypocrisy. I am most afraid of my own, but in this case I have no worries. Do you ?

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May 16, 2019 21:53:17   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
You have it all wrong pal, that isn’t my floppier poking you in the eye when you are kneeling gape mouthed in front of some glory hole, and frankly it disturbs me a bit to be part of your homoerotic fantasy. My post was about Trumps lie, he no more saw a pile of dead eagles than he saw thousands of Muslims cheering the trade center attacks in New Jersey. He just feeds sh!t to his i***t minions. There is little question turbines k**l birds, not as many as his high rise buildings or air pollution from f****l f**ls, but I digress. The point is that Trump is a pathological liar, and his cult buys his lies hook line and sinker.
You have it all wrong pal, that isn’t my floppier ... (show quote)


Are unbathed truckers your specialty?

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May 17, 2019 01:28:17   #
Seth
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
There is no greater enemy to a liberal than the t***h.


Amen!

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May 17, 2019 01:29:55   #
Seth
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Being brain dead requires the possession of a brain at some point in time. That leaves Kevy boy out.


And another nail, hit right on the head!

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May 17, 2019 01:34:39   #
Seth
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Oh, shut up. You never offer an objective POV on anything. You obsess over the "orange man" like a teenage girl with pimples vying for prom queen. The man seems to haunt you 24/7.

The death rates of birds caused by wind turbines is a minor issue considering the overall environmental impact of those farms.

The construction and maintenance of wind-energy facilities alter ecosystem structure, through vegetation clearing, soil disruption, and potential for erosion, and this is particularly problematic in areas that are difficult to reclaim, such as desert, shrub-steppe, and forested areas. In the MidAtlantic Highlands forest clearing represents perhaps the most significant potential change through fragmentation and loss of habitat for forest-dependent species.

I've seen massive wind farms and there is nothing about them that are a benefit to our ecosystem.

And all this for what? To offset an ideologically driven s**m to fleece the nations of the world and destroy the only engine of prosperity known to man?




Wind farms Neither wind nor solar energy sources are going to replace f****l f**ls any time soon, if ever.
Oh, shut up. You never offer an objective POV on a... (show quote)


Hell, I'm all for a tax rebate from the remains of Solyndra.

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May 17, 2019 01:37:09   #
Seth
 
archie bunker wrote:
He stated his opinion, and the conversation is over. He has places to go.
He needs to get to his service job at the truck stop restroom.



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May 17, 2019 01:45:54   #
Seth
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Shut up stupid.


Right on!

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May 17, 2019 01:48:03   #
Seth
 
byronglimish wrote:
Are unbathed truckers your specialty?



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May 17, 2019 03:48:52   #
Reality
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Being brain dead requires the possession of a brain at some point in time. That leaves Kevy boy out.


😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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May 17, 2019 07:22:50   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Seth wrote:
And another nail, hit right on the head!


When the head is empty, the nails are easy to drive.

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May 17, 2019 07:31:14   #
Seth
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
When the head is empty, the nails are easy to drive.


In that case, the nails were probably almost sucked right through.

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May 17, 2019 10:40:57   #
Kazudy
 
Kevyn wrote:
For you members of the Pumpkinfuhrer’s cult ask yourselves this. how stupid must he think his followers are to tell whoppers like this?


Most employment numbers for miorities and women EVER!!!! Your hero that preceded him said"Wuzz he going to do, wave a manic wand?" Obozo had no clue being a c*******t community organizer. Trump a businessman. You just can't stand it that Trump showed the world how it's done. Your sour grapes are obvious so shut the hell up. Trump 2020 MAGA God bless America and God bless President Trump. Can I get an Amen Kevyn?

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May 17, 2019 14:05:44   #
Nickolai
 
JW wrote:
Not far from where I live are hundreds of those eyesores. They are ugly, constantly breaking down and producing ozone like crazy. Ozone, BTW, is toxic... but it is invisible so it won't spoil the view and it does smell nicer than burning coal. I'll give you that but it is much more problematic.









Not far from where I live there is a wind farm that originally had smaller towers and turbines. They were k*****g a lot of birds. They were all replaced with giant towers with giant slower turning blades. There have been no more reports of dead birds and I have yet to see a maintenance working on them. They just sit there slowly turning and generating power for tens of thousands of homes. F****l f**ls are the technology 19th century Its days have come nd will soon go

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May 17, 2019 14:11:31   #
Nickolai
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
You expect us to believe ANYTHING you post? We're not the ignorant ones. It's the anti-science crowd that believes a fetus isn't human.






It is the pro science crowd that believes a fetus is not a viable human being until it can survive on its own out side the womb which is around 24 weeks

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May 17, 2019 14:56:53   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
All this psychobabble because some progressive ideologues convinced you that human activity is causing a catastrophic greenhouse effect. I always thought there was a limit to how far human ignorance could sink, but you have removed all doubt.

In Their Own Words: Climate Alarmists Debunk Their 'Science'

How Climate Alarmism Advances International Political Agendas:

The term “climate” is typically associated with annual world-wide average temperature records measured over at least three decades. Yet g****l w*****g observed less than two decades after many scientists had predicted a g****l c*****g crisis prompted the United Nations to organize an Intergovernmental Panel on C*****e C****e (IPCC), and to convene a continuing series of international conferences purportedly aimed at preventing an impending catastrophe. Virtually from the beginning, they had already attributed the “crisis” to human fossil-fuel carbon emissions.

A remark from Maurice Strong, who organized the first U.N. Earth Climate Summit (1992) in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil revealed the real goal: “We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse.”

Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S undersecretary of state for global issues, addressing the same Rio Climate Summit audience, agreed: “We have got to ride the g****l w*****g issue. Even if the theory of g****l w*****g is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” (Wirth now heads the U.N. Foundation which lobbies for hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to help underdeveloped countries fight c*****e c****e.)

Also speaking at the Rio conference, Deputy Assistant of State Richard Benedick, who then headed the policy divisions of the U.S. State Department said: “A g****l w*****g treaty [Kyoto] must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the [enhanced] greenhouse effect.”

In 1988, former Canadian Minister of the Environment, told editors and reporters of the Calgary Herald: “No matter if the science of g****l w*****g is all phony…c*****e c****e [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and e******y in the world.”

In 1996, former Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev emphasized the importance of using climate alarmism to advance socialist Marxist objectives: “The threat of environmental crisis will be the international disaster key to unlock the New World Order.”

Speaking at the 2000 U.N. Conference on C*****e C****e in the Hague, former President Jacques Chirac of France explained why the IPCC’s climate initiative supported a key Western European Kyoto Protocol objective: “For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance, one that should find a place within the World Environmental Organization which France and the European Union would like to see established.”

How Some Key IPCC Researchers View Their Science:

For starters, let’s begin with two different views by some of the same researchers that are reported in the same year regarding whether there is a discernible human influence on global climate.

First, taken from a 1996 IPCC report summary written by B.D. Santer, T.M.L Wigley, T.P. Barnett, and E. Anyamba: “…there is evidence of an emerging pattern of climate response to forcings by greenhouse gases and sulph**e aerosols…from geographical, seasonal and vertical patterns of temperature change…These results point towards human influence on climate.”

Then, a 1996 publication “The Holocene”, by T.P. Barnett, B.D. Santer, P.D. Jones, R.S. Bradley and K.R. Briffa, says this: “Estimates of…natural variability are critical to the problem of detecting an anthropogenic [human] signal…We have estimated the spectrum…from paleo-temperature proxies and compared it with…general [climate] circulation models…none of the three estimates of the natural variability spectrum agree with each other…Until…resolved, it will be hard to say, with confidence, that an anthropogenic climate signal has or has not been detected.”

In other words, these guys, several of whom you will hear from later, can’t say with confidence whether or not humans have had any influence at all…or even if so, whether it has caused warming or cooling!

IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer, speaking in November 2010, advised that: “…one has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, c*****e c****e policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth...”

The late Stephen Schneider, who authored The Genesis Strategy, a 1976 book warning that g****l c*****g risks posed a threat to humanity, later changed that view 180 degrees, serving as a lead author for important parts of three sequential IPCC reports. In a quotation published in Discover, he said: “On the one hand, as scientists we are ethically bound to the scientific method, on the other hand, we are not just scientists, but human beings as well. And like most people, we’d like to see the world a better place, which in this context t***slates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic change. To do that, we need to get some broad-based support, to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of the doubts we might have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”

Kevin Trenberth, a lead author of 2001 and 2007 IPCC report chapters, writing in a 2007 “Predictions of Climate” blog appearing in the science journal Nature.com, admitted: “None of the models used by the IPCC are initialized to the observed state and none of the climate states in the models correspond even remotely to the current observed state”.

Christopher Landsea, a top expert on the subject of cyclones, became astounded and perplexed when he was informed that Trenberth had participated in a 2004 press conference following a deadly 2004 Florida storm season which had announced “Experts warn that g****l w*****g [is] likely to continue spurring more outbreaks of intense activity.” Since IPCC studies released in 1995 and 2001 had found no evidence of a g****l w*****g-hurricane link, and there was no new analysis to suggest otherwise, he wrote to leading IPCC officials imploring: “What scientific, refereed publications substantiate these pronouncements? What studies alluded to have shown a connection between observed warming trends on Earth and long-term trends of cyclone activity?”

Receiving no replies, he then requested assurance that the 2007 report would present true science, saying: “[Dr. Trenberth] seems to have come to a conclusion that g****l w*****g has altered hurricane activity, and has already stated so. This does not reflect consensus within the hurricane research community.” After that assurance didn’t come, Landsea, an invited author, resigned from the 2007 report activity and issued an open letter presenting his reasons.
All this psychobabble because some progressive ide... (show quote)





https://youtu.be/YRe1ymYR45k
https://youtu.be/UKKYt6fWob8

The evidence of c*****e c****e due to g****l w*****g and caused by human activity is all around us

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