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Christians can go to war under the right circumstances. Jesus was no wallflower. He is a warrior.
And yet he didn't...
What are the right conditions? (in your opinion)
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"The Lord is a warrior; The Lord is His name. 4"Pharaoh's char**ts and his army He has cast into the sea; And the choicest of his officers are drowned in the Red Sea," (Exodus 15:3-4).
I find it interesting that God did all of this after He had "hardened" Pharaoh's heart...
I have always wondered at the justification for it... One of the things I have yet to reconcile about the Lord...
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God uses war to discipline
"I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, And I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; Yet you have not returned to Me, declares the Lord," Amos 4:10
Yet we are not talking about God's right to k**l... We are discussing man's...
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We have the right to self defense -
"If the thief is caught while breaking in, and is struck so that he dies, there will be no blood guiltiness on his account."
Exodus 22:2
Are all of the laws of Exodus still in effect?
Sweet deal...
(if not could I have a list of the one's that are no longer applicable?...Thanks)
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A case can be made for capital punishment -
“Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil,". Romans 13:1-4
A case can be made for capital punishment - br b... (
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I believe you have just justified a******n...
Well done...
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"Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, 14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right," 1 Peter 2:13-14
This one was one of the Quotes the S***e owners loved...
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Its not simply an ‘Old Testament’ concept. Many Christians are divided on the subject.
Many use ‘turn the other cheek’ out of context. This doesn’t mean one can’t defend themselves. It applies to personal retaliation not criminal offenses or military action.
Yet an incarcerated criminal is no danger to anyone.... Hardly a case for self-defense...
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Exodus 21:24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand - This punishment matched the damage done to the victim. It wasn’t to exceed it. It also isn’t applicable to matters of personal retaliation but for civil cases.
Assault is a civil case?
Not in Canada...
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Edited to add - part of this was in response to Tommy’s post which had many quotes but a lot of misinformation.
Which parts were misinformation?
Tommy clearly stated that the laws of the OT were negated by Christ's sacrifice in the NT?
No?
Note: I happen to agree with both you and Tommy on this one...