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May 9, 2019 02:16:15   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
The Grind

The US this week will deploy a carrier strike group and bomber task force to the Middle East to safeguard US allies and troops, said National Security Adviser John Bolton.

The move comes in response to "a number of troubling and escalating indications and warnings," he added, remaining vague on the details.

The deployment will send the USS Abraham Lincoln and its accompanying ships from the Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea, and potentially to the Arabian Sea or Persian Gulf.

A group of Air Force F-35 stealth fighter jets was deployed to the region last month.

"Shifting additional forces to the Middle East as a deterrent against Iran would represent something of a course correction for the Pentagon, which has sought to move forces away from the region so it could build up its capability to deter possible aggression by Russia and China," reports the Wall Street Journal.

The Details

Officials confirmed the deployment is unrelated to the ongoing conflict in the Gaza Strip, which last week resulted in the death of key Hamas commander Hamed al-Khoudary.

"The US is not seeking war with the Iranian regime," said Bolton. "But we are prepared to respond to any attacks, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or regular Iranian forces.

The deployment to the Middle East is "something we've been working on for a little while," said Sec. of State Mike Pompeo, adding that Tehran will be held responsible for any attack on American interests - no matter where it comes from.

"If these actions take place, if they do by some third-party proxy, a m*****a group, Hezbollah, we will hold the Iranian leadership directly accountable for that," he promised.

The increasing tension between the US and Iran is a direct result of the Trump Administration's pressure campaign on the regime - including its recent decision not to renew waivers allowing countries to purchase Iranian oil.

As reported by Axios on Sunday, the Trump Administration is considering additional sanctions designed to harm the Iranian economy.

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May 9, 2019 05:08:38   #
Richard Rowland
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The Grind

The US this week will deploy a carrier strike group and bomber task force to the Middle East to safeguard US allies and troops, said National Security Adviser John Bolton.

The move comes in response to "a number of troubling and escalating indications and warnings," he added, remaining vague on the details.

The deployment will send the USS Abraham Lincoln and its accompanying ships from the Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea, and potentially to the Arabian Sea or Persian Gulf.

A group of Air Force F-35 stealth fighter jets was deployed to the region last month.

"Shifting additional forces to the Middle East as a deterrent against Iran would represent something of a course correction for the Pentagon, which has sought to move forces away from the region so it could build up its capability to deter possible aggression by Russia and China," reports the Wall Street Journal.

The Details

Officials confirmed the deployment is unrelated to the ongoing conflict in the Gaza Strip, which last week resulted in the death of key Hamas commander Hamed al-Khoudary.

"The US is not seeking war with the Iranian regime," said Bolton. "But we are prepared to respond to any attacks, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or regular Iranian forces.

The deployment to the Middle East is "something we've been working on for a little while," said Sec. of State Mike Pompeo, adding that Tehran will be held responsible for any attack on American interests - no matter where it comes from.

"If these actions take place, if they do by some third-party proxy, a m*****a group, Hezbollah, we will hold the Iranian leadership directly accountable for that," he promised.

The increasing tension between the US and Iran is a direct result of the Trump Administration's pressure campaign on the regime - including its recent decision not to renew waivers allowing countries to purchase Iranian oil.

As reported by Axios on Sunday, the Trump Administration is considering additional sanctions designed to harm the Iranian economy.
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"A sneeze could trigger an attack". Bolton and Pompeo need to be sacked if war is to be averted. Anyone with a brain realizes who these two guys are shilling for. And, of course, Trumpy being best buddies with Netanyahu is only too willing to go along.

We're learning that China has sacked most of the agreements thought to have been agreed to during trade negotiations. If history has a lesson to be learned, it's that disagreements over trade often leads to war. I suspect that China is distancing itself from an agreement with the US on trade, or anything else, and is getting ready for intervention if Iran or Venezuela are attacked by the US.

It wouldn't make sense to be agreeing to anything if preparing for war. There's speculation by some that a world war is being deliberately orchestrated by those who feel war will be a final solution, "for out of the ashes, a fully globalized world". Or perhaps, no world at all!


https://www.globalresearch.ca/boltons-press-release-military-attack-against-iran/5676749

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May 9, 2019 06:08:58   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
"A sneeze could trigger an attack". Bolton and Pompeo need to be sacked if war is to be averted. Anyone with a brain realizes who these two guys are shilling for. And, of course, Trumpy being best buddies with Netanyahu is only too willing to go along.

We're learning that China has sacked most of the agreements thought to have been agreed to during trade negotiations. If history has a lesson to be learned, it's that disagreements over trade often leads to war. I suspect that China is distancing itself from an agreement with the US on trade, or anything else, and is getting ready for intervention if Iran or Venezuela are attacked by the US.

It wouldn't make sense to be agreeing to anything if preparing for war. There's speculation by some that a world war is being deliberately orchestrated by those who feel war will be a final solution, "for out of the ashes, a fully globalized world".


https://www.globalresearch.ca/boltons-press-release-military-attack-against-iran/5676749
"A sneeze could trigger an attack". Bolt... (show quote)


It's kind of scary how wrong you get things. Do you think with all the nukes the US, Russia, and China have we would go to a hot war with one another? Ever heard of MAD? Mutually Assured Destruction? That's why we all use proxies to fight one another when money and coercion don't work. All three nations are working on supersonic missiles to do a work around the MAD hurdle but you would still need a star wars system to k**l the incoming nukes. Got to have both to survive and they have to work flawlessly. What good does it do to launch nukes if everyone dies? You have to survive to be the winner. You believe too much propaganda stuff designed to lead you astray. You should be studying AI, G5, super soldiers, lasers, cloaking devices, holograms, and drones that look like insects if you want to learn where and how future wars will be conducted. The best weapons will always be water, food, germs, and lies.

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May 9, 2019 06:23:17   #
MarvinSussman
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The Grind

The US this week will deploy a carrier strike group and bomber task force to the Middle East to safeguard US allies and troops, said National Security Adviser John Bolton.

The move comes in response to "a number of troubling and escalating indications and warnings," he added, remaining vague on the details.

The deployment will send the USS Abraham Lincoln and its accompanying ships from the Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea, and potentially to the Arabian Sea or Persian Gulf.

A group of Air Force F-35 stealth fighter jets was deployed to the region last month.

"Shifting additional forces to the Middle East as a deterrent against Iran would represent something of a course correction for the Pentagon, which has sought to move forces away from the region so it could build up its capability to deter possible aggression by Russia and China," reports the Wall Street Journal.

The Details

Officials confirmed the deployment is unrelated to the ongoing conflict in the Gaza Strip, which last week resulted in the death of key Hamas commander Hamed al-Khoudary.

"The US is not seeking war with the Iranian regime," said Bolton. "But we are prepared to respond to any attacks, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or regular Iranian forces.

The deployment to the Middle East is "something we've been working on for a little while," said Sec. of State Mike Pompeo, adding that Tehran will be held responsible for any attack on American interests - no matter where it comes from.

"If these actions take place, if they do by some third-party proxy, a m*****a group, Hezbollah, we will hold the Iranian leadership directly accountable for that," he promised.

The increasing tension between the US and Iran is a direct result of the Trump Administration's pressure campaign on the regime - including its recent decision not to renew waivers allowing countries to purchase Iranian oil.

As reported by Axios on Sunday, the Trump Administration is considering additional sanctions designed to harm the Iranian economy.
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Remember when Cuba committed aggression against us at the Bay of Pigs?

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May 9, 2019 13:57:53   #
Richard Rowland
 
Peewee wrote:
It's kind of scary how wrong you get things. Do you think with all the nukes the US, Russia, and China have we would go to a hot war with one another? Ever heard of MAD? Mutually Assured Destruction? That's why we all use proxies to fight one another when money and coercion don't work. All three nations are working on supersonic missiles to do a work around the MAD hurdle but you would still need a star wars system to k**l the incoming nukes. Got to have both to survive and they have flawlessly. What good does it do to launch nukes if everyone dies? You have to survive to be the winner. You believe too much propaganda stuff designed to lead you astray. You should be studying AI, G5, super soldiers, lasers, cloaking devices, holograms, and drones that look like insects if you want to learn where and how future wars will be conducted. The best weapons will always be water, food, germs, and lies.
It's kind of scary how wrong you get things. Do yo... (show quote)


And Pewee is always right, of course. If you haven't learned by now that nothing and, I mean nothing, is out of the realm of possibilities than you haven't learned anything.

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May 9, 2019 14:35:21   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
Remember when Cuba committed aggression against us at the Bay of Pigs?


Depends on how you define aggression. I admit that the worst wars are ones where we are not provoked or directly attacked. I'm trying to think of one. But what is even worse it getting into a war with no clear-cut objectives to win, such as Vietnam.

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May 9, 2019 17:57:08   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
And Pewee is always right, of course. If you haven't learned by now that nothing and, I mean nothing, is out of the realm of possibilities than you haven't learned anything.


You're just jealous because I've been right for about two years and you've been wrong. You can increase your IQ at least ten points if you just stop hating on the Jews. I'm only right most of the time because I know what the Torah and Bible say. It's an open book test, but you have to open and read the book. Yes, they have some bad apples in the bunch but so do all nations. You try and blame them for everything. If you just realize they are God's chosen people that might explain why they always rise to the top no matter what nation they live in. It might be God's way of keeping a remnant around. To show how He blesses and punishes them as an example to the rest of us. But mess with them and God will punish that nation. It's happened over and over through the centuries. But once they are back in their nation, which they are, no one will be able to move them again. Which means the show is about to enter the last act. Every time we do something bad to Israel the US has taken a hit, by tornados, floods, etc... How long will you kick against the pricks? A prick or goad is a pole with a metal tip to direct the oxen when plowing, sometimes the ox would kick against the prick and hurt itself worse. Saul was k*****g Jewish converts to Christ. So Jesus knocked him off his mule or horse and blinded him for a time until Paul got a new revelation Acts 9:5 & 26:14. Many Jews that disliked Jesus also dislike Paul, but they loved him when his name was Saul. I think the Sanhedrin may have been early Democrats. They have many of the same characteristics. Now Israel has a new Sanhedrin and I bet they will be much like the last group. The Essenes got it right.

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May 9, 2019 19:19:59   #
Richard Rowland
 
Peewee wrote:
You're just jealous because I've been right for about two years and you've been wrong. You can increase your IQ at least ten points if you just stop hating on the Jews. I'm only right most of the time because I know what the Torah and Bible say. It's an open book test, but you have to open and read the book. Yes, they have some bad apples in the bunch but so do all nations. You try and blame them for everything. If you just realize they are God's chosen people that might explain why they always rise to the top no matter what nation they live in. It might be God's way of keeping a remnant around. To show how He blesses and punishes them as an example to the rest of us. But mess with them and God will punish that nation. It's happened over and over through the centuries. But once they are back in their nation, which they are, no one will be able to move them again. Which means the show is about to enter the last act. Every time we do something bad to Israel the US has taken a hit, by tornados, floods, etc... How long will you kick against the pricks? A prick or goad is a pole with a metal tip to direct the oxen when plowing, sometimes the ox would kick against the prick and hurt itself worse. Saul was k*****g Jewish converts to Christ. So Jesus knocked him off his mule or horse and blinded him for a time until Paul got a new revelation Acts 9:5 & 26:14. Many Jews that disliked Jesus also dislike Paul, but they loved him when his name was Saul. I think the Sanhedrin may have been early Democrats. They have many of the same characteristics. Now Israel has a new Sanhedrin and I bet they will be much like the last group. The Essenes got it right.
You're just jealous because I've been right for ab... (show quote)


Well, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. I won't go into an explanation for what I think of this stuff you posted. However, those who believe the nonsense that they are Gods chosen really are delusional.

I suppose though if it helps one's self-esteem to imagine it, what harm can it cause. And besides, if I was to write such a storybook, I'd also make myself and those like me, the center of the story.

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May 9, 2019 19:28:07   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Well, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. I won't go into an explanation for what I think of this stuff you posted. However, those who believe the nonsense that they are Gods chosen really are delusional.

I suppose though if it helps one's self-esteem to imagine it, what harm can it cause. And besides, if I was to write such a storybook, I'd also make myself and those like me, the center of the story.


I think we understand one another perfectly. I believe the Bible and you believe a crackpot.

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May 9, 2019 20:21:49   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Now, Now. Play nice everyone.

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May 9, 2019 20:35:52   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Now, Now. Play nice everyone.



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May 9, 2019 20:49:19   #
Richard Rowland
 
Peewee wrote:
It's kind of scary how wrong you get things. Do you think with all the nukes the US, Russia, and China have we would go to a hot war with one another? Ever heard of MAD? Mutually Assured Destruction? That's why we all use proxies to fight one another when money and coercion don't work. All three nations are working on supersonic missiles to do a work around the MAD hurdle but you would still need a star wars system to k**l the incoming nukes. Got to have both to survive and they have to work flawlessly. What good does it do to launch nukes if everyone dies? You have to survive to be the winner. You believe too much propaganda stuff designed to lead you astray. You should be studying AI, G5, super soldiers, lasers, cloaking devices, holograms, and drones that look like insects if you want to learn where and how future wars will be conducted. The best weapons will always be water, food, germs, and lies.
It's kind of scary how wrong you get things. Do yo... (show quote)


"It's kind of scary how wrong you can get things"

Well, then I'm in good company, for watching Tucker Carlson tonight, it appears he agrees with my point that Bolton is a warmonger.

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May 9, 2019 21:46:01   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
"It's kind of scary how wrong you can get things"

Well, then I'm in good company, for watching Tucker Carlson tonight it appears he agrees with my point that Bolton is a warmonger.


Even I agree with that. The Venezuela foul-up is starting to look really suspicious to me. I think Trump is allowing the war cabal players to expose themselves. He has land mines buried in a lot of places. One GOP Senator Burr (NC) on the intel committee v**ed to subpoena Don Jr. again, breaking his word. Another RINO exposed v****g with the DEMs. General Kelly even bad mouthed Ivanka and Kusner in an interview recently. I think the deep state is still trying to start wars on as many fronts as possible. To handcuff Trump. Trump is concentrating on the most serious problems first. China (trade), Iran (terrorism), NK (missiles) he even confiscated an NK cargo ship t***sporting coal in violation of sanctions. He is tightening screws instead of going to war. I give him a big atta boy for that. Reminds me of that Patton quote, you don't die for your country you make the enemy die for theirs. Glad we finally agreed on something.

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May 9, 2019 22:26:54   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Peewee wrote:
Even I agree with that. The Venezuela foul-up is starting to look really suspicious to me. I think Trump is allowing the war cabal players to expose themselves. He has land mines buried in a lot of places. One GOP Senator Burr (NC) on the intel committee v**ed to subpoena Don Jr. again, breaking his word. Another RINO exposed v****g with the DEMs. General Kelly even bad mouthed Ivanka and Kusner in an interview recently. I think the deep state is still trying to start wars on as many fronts as possible. To handcuff Trump. Trump is concentrating on the most serious problems first. China (trade), Iran (terrorism), NK (missiles) he even confiscated an NK cargo ship t***sporting coal in violation of sanctions. He is tightening screws instead of going to war. I give him a big atta boy for that. Reminds me of that Patton quote, you don't die for your country you make the enemy die for theirs. Glad we finally agreed on something.
Even I agree with that. The Venezuela foul-up is s... (show quote)


Would you prefer the Chinese or Russians go in and make it a Satellite? They would have a sea lane in the Caribbean and very close to the US. This would really hamper our ability to protect the Law of the Sea and Free Trade between nations. I'll bet China or Russia are chomping at the bit to get in there if we leave an opening for them.

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May 9, 2019 23:18:03   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Would you prefer the Chinese or Russians go in and make it a Satellite? They would have a sea lane in the Caribbean and very close to the US. This would really hamper our ability to protect the Law of the Sea and Free Trade between nations. I'll bet China or Russia are chomping at the bit to get in there if we leave an opening for them.


Neither, but what I didn't say very well is I think the NWO and deep state are in cahoots. They are pulling the strings on both sides of that situation. A good cop, bad cop scenario where Americans die. It isn't worth it at this time.

I don't like saying that but we can't take on all the worlds problems like we've been doing and we can't keep putting ourselves deeper and deeper in debt. We actually have to solve problems instead of throwing money at it. Trump has cut a lot of strings that we're wasting our money on. UN, NATO, Hamas, etc... We may not be as large as Russia or have as many people as China but we are the largest consumers on Earth. No trade deals with the USA is like cutting your own throat. Trade and tariffs are a huge weapon.

Trump will get to Venezuela eventually after he purges some more of the vast military-industrial complex. Probably after we take the House back. He has sent food and medicine. So far we haven't had anyone die on either side because of us. As to the sea lane problem, their subs are already sitting off our three coasts, and ours sit off their coasts. Plus we sold some of our ports to China and the Saudis. The only one we have reclaimed is Long Beach so far, to my knowledge. Trump is working as fast as he can. He's been unchained and the D's are trying to tie him up again. So he has to drop the declass and start locking more of them away, soon. Just my opinion and how I see things. But he wants some more wins on the scoreboard before July 4th.

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