Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

Islam's screeching call to prayer sounds like demons in the abyss. It raises the hair on the back of the neck of any spiritually discerning Christian.

Our Constitution guarantees freedom of religion to all citizens.The first Puritans and Pilgrims escaped from the religious oppression of Europe, opting for our shores instead, to be able to worship God as they chose.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I must have missed that part of her post...

I believe the point of whitnbrats's pist was to point out that if Christians are allowed to do something (ring Church bells) that disturbs the public then Muslims must be allowed to as well...

Denigrating a faith has nothing to do with assimulation...

As for Obama... That was an irrelevant tangent...

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

"Pist." Is that a Freudian slip?

Rose42

Must be because the muslim call to prayer disturbs far more people than church bells.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Nope...Typo

Stupid fingers on a smart phone..

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I on the other hand find all calls to worship the Lord rather beautiful...

A difference of opinion...

Some people think rap is music

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Rap IS music. But first, you have to know how to pronounce it correctly. Remember, the "C" at the beginning is silent.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Why are you always so defensive? You seem to think there is some moral equivalency between Christianity and Islam. Nothing could be further from the t***h.

America was founded on the moral principles of Christianity, and for the first 100 years, in church
schools, private schools, and public schools, the Bible was used as a textbook as well as a devotional
guide. Classes began with the Lord's Prayer, Bible reading, roll call, and the pledge of allegiance. The Bible taught self-discipline, virtue, and morality.

Islam has no right to assert itself into American culture, tradition, and force its influence into our way of life. If Muslims in America want to practice their religion while at the same time embracing our way of life, fine. But, that is not the case with many who are coming here with decidedly ulterior motives. They have only one mission, and it ain't good.

Islam is a theocracy, religion controls its politics, the clergy are the rulers. CAIR, for example, is a front for Islamic Jihad. Coming Clean About CAIR.

Liberals in America never let us forget about Jefferson's principle of separation of church and state, they denounce the fact that America was founded on Christian principles and are always accusing Christians of campaigning to turn America into a Christian theocracy. Which, BTW, is absolutely false. But they say nothing about organizations like CAIR --Counsel on American Islamic Relations. Think about that, "American" refers to a state, and "Islamic" to a religion. There is no such thing as a Counsel on American Christian Relations.

Islam is a threat to all nations, whether you want to believe it or not. Even China is cracking down on its Uighur Muslims. China Is Detaining Muslims in Vast Numbers. The Goal: ‘T***sformation.’

Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam is Subverting America without Guns or Bombs

In Stealth Jihad, Islam expert and New York Times bestselling author Robert Spencer blows the whistle on a long-term plot by Islamic jihadists to undermine the United States. This effort aims not to bring America to its knees through attacks with guns or bombs, but to subvert the country from within--by gradually Islamizing America. The ultimate goal, the stealth jihadists themselves declare, is nothing less than the adoption of Islamic law in the United States.
Describing the disturbing ease with which stealth jihadists have already become ensconced in the American political and media landscapes, Spencer exposes the full modus operandi of the movement as revealed in a stunning document unveiled in a recent terrorism funding trial. In this unsettling book, he explains:

* Which Islamic fundamentalist organization is behind the stealth jihad
* How stealth jihadists have reinvented themselves as mainstream civil rights activists--despite their many past declarations of Islamic supremacism
* How stealth jihadists played a key role in formulating U.S. government guidelines for the War on Terror
* How insistence on "accommodating" Islamic cultural and religious practices in America is part of a calculated strategy to achieve a dangerous larger agenda
* The effort by stealth jihadists to whitewash the teaching of Islam in schools
* What can be done to defeat the stealth jihad and preserve America's liberty

America, Spencer demonstrates, is all but oblivious to a new kind of threat presented by a loosely organized movement whose activists are well funded, highly motivated, and relentless in pursuit of their agenda. This book is a wake-up call for a country so focused on foreign threats that it has left itself vulnerable to a growing danger much closer to home.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

LOL... I'm going to remember that one..

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Blade my friend... I am not defensive... I am calling out bigotry... Spencer for example... A true bigot...

America was founded on many things... Christian principles...Perhaps?
The subjugation of the native population and the ens***ement of countless other's tells a story that would speak against that...

If you have paid attention you are aware that I have no issue with those who wish Muslims to integrate... Or with those who would prevent certain types from entering the US and other Western nations..

I take issue with those who would denigrate the entire religion....
And yes... There are many equivalencies between Christianity and Islam... Starting with the worship of our Lord...

All the best to you brother...

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

Rather a difference of Lords, Canuckus,

The idol god, Allah, definitively declares he has no son:

The Quran clearly states in, The Women 4.171, that God has NO Son.

"Allah Has no Son. Those who believe that Allah has a son must be admonished since this is a monstrous blasphemy and falsehood (18:4-6).
Allah has never begotten a son and there are no deities beside him (23:91)."

"Jews say that Ezra (Jesus) is the son of Allah while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of Allah.
May Allah destroy them."

In sharp contrast, John 3:16 in the Word of God declares that God DOES have a Son, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Are you really equating the importance of denying Jesus Christ, God's only plan of salvation for man, with the likeability of a genre of ethnic music?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Yet the Jews deny God has a son as well...
Hmmm?
How is it possible for the Jews to deny this fact and still worship the Lord?

I have inquired of others regarding this.. But have never received an answer... Other than the Jews are God's chosen people... Which doesn't negate the fact that they deny God has a son....





Is this from the Koran?
I don't recall it... Though I am hardly a scholar...



Don't be silly...
I am saying that liking the Muslim call to prayer is a matter of preference...
I know Christians who dislike Gospel music and others who enjoy death rock... All a matter of preference...

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

If I were speaking for atheists as one of them, I would have said "we, not they."
You were doing very well with that explanation, dtucker, until you got to the last line.
Your graceful apology, though unnecessary is accepted.

I'm a woman, so the "Sir" was not needed.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

It's very simple. How they interpret and express their belief in God is different. Each thinks the other two religions are wrong. The bottom line is that all three monotheistic religions believe in the SAME God! It may not look like the same God to many outside observers or those members of any one of the three religions. We need to celebrate the similarities among the three religions instead of focusing on the differences. That's pretty hard to do when each is saying the other is wrong. There are so many different sects within each religion who cannot agree on the basic tenets within their own religion. There is greater variation within one religion than there is from one religion to another. Unfortunately, most adherents of any one of the three religions cannot see the forest for the trees. They dig their heels in. As long as each holds tightly to their own doctrine it is unlikely that there will ever be a cessation of hostility among them. There are many reasons for this which go way beyond blind h**e, use of force, indoctrination, education, inability to admit they don't know everything about their own religion or others, thinking they do know all there is to know about theirs or another's religion.

Even on this site, Christians are telling Christians that the other is wrong. How is all that working for you?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Speechless Tucker

Well said...

That's two from you today