Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

What would be the point in trying to refute what you say? You wouldn't gracefully accept a refutation if it proved you wrong.

rumitoid

Too funny, there is no way for you to know that because you never tried. Believe it or not, I welcome someone pointing out where I am wrong. T***h is vital to me.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

OK. Ask a straightforward question, but remember no question as put can be fully comprehended until it has been fully posed and the assumptions understood.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Before I watch the video, let me add my two cents too. (It’s time for bed, I’ll watch tomorrow)

First, maleness, in reproduction, has to do with the seed planter. God is a seed planter (John 15:1), His bride (His corporate Covenant people) represent the seed incubator and nourisher (1 Cor 3:9). Satan, an asexual spirit being (Matt. 22:30), is also a seed planter, and is the father of all lies and liars (Matt. 13:27-28, John 8:44)

Second, we have fathers, not so much to establish a patriarchal system, but to pattern and reveal God’s “type” relationship to man and vice-versa. (Romans 1:20)

The people who have a problem with God being identified as a male, simply have a problem with divinely established order: they want their roles and God’s reversed.

Which brings us to the situation with the prevalence of homosexuality today:

“21Because, knowing God, they didn't glorify him as God, neither gave thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.

24Therefore God also gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves, 25who exchanged the t***h of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26For this reason, God gave them up to vile passions. For their women changed the natural function into that which is against nature. 27Likewise also the men, leaving the natural function of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another, men doing what is inappropriate with men, and receiving in themselves the due penalty of their error.

28Even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil habits, secret slanderers, 30backbiters, h**eful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32who, knowing the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also approve of those who practice them.” Romans 1:21-32

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Prager is pretty good, but he’s still a Jew, which simply implies he doesn’t have a revelation of who Jesus is and why the covenant that Jesus established-grace and t***h- is far superior morally to the Old Covenant of an eye for an eye.

I still like listening to him for the most part though. And I really respect him for hiring Candace Owens!

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I'm logged out till after the e******n I may die if the Liberals win, luckily I'm God anyway so makes no difference, but if I'm logged out maybe this isn't getting posted, I migh be dead already and this post is a part of the after life, can someone please let me know if they have died too.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Okay, watched it. He makes some great points!

One criticism: I don't think it's a given (as he implies) that people generally want a "more just" world. I think a strong case could be made to show that, the more people resent or reject the idea of God as a male figure (as a positive role model as Prager adeptly establishes Him to be), the more likely they are to not want a "more just" world. L*****ts generally don't appear to me to want a "more just" world, they seem only to just want more for themselves, and/or to prey off of other's wants for "just more for themselves". That is why they want to take the money of the workers and give to the unproductive. Same with the L***Q agenda, they don't want a "more just" world, they just want more for themselves and that's why they don't want us who believe in the sanctity of a marriage between one man and woman to be able to openly express our convictions. That isn't "justice" that's ine******y. Same with trade unions: they don't tend to want a more just world, they ultimately want the balance of power t***sferred to them, again, ine******y, which is not "just". (In this case, it isn't so much a rejection of God as a male father figure, as it is a case of at-will employers not being the "rule makers." In this case we see union workers who can't be fired for infractions against an employer,which is hardly "just".)

Uoceph

No son/daughter
I realized MANY years ago that to understand God, one will ultimately recognized BOTH traits in that being. You all never grow anywhere if you insist on aligh=ning yourself with a g****r issue.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

I see God as not a g****r but rather the Alpha and Omega.. G****r is immaterial to the teachings of Gods will.. Agaping love for all..

Spirit form is anything you believe of “ He”...❤️

Uoceph

This is - to me - wise

Uoceph

Over 1/2 a century now, I have studied the "book" in many languages.
What disturbs me is the great number of misinterpretations of western Christianity - everything from not being aware that Caion & Abel were twins (Hebrew - Eve "continued in LABOR") tp "turn the other cheek - which in that culture mans
ta -da-da-da-duh sah! "To turn and walk away" - Not to ketone's self get struck again

rumitoid

Blade, sorry I did not see this last night. Given how little you think of me, this is a very generous offer. And I agree with the terms you have laid out. Here is my question: what is the purpose of salvation?

I put forth this question as a way to demonstrate how such careless comments such as Prager made about the “goals of the Bible” can be a serious threat to faith. It may seem innocuous, something only an uber A-type personality would find objectionable but he gets it all wrong--and as he does he undermines Christ's mission, as you will see when you present an answer. His is not a little, excusable mistake but apostasy, intentional or not. And he made those "goals of the Bible" the primary premise of his entire lecture!

fullspinzoo

Do you see a trend here? Those who really h**e Trump h**e Christ too. They are anti-Christ or full blown atheists. Not too often will you see a Democrat who will stick up for Christ. Being that I lived in Utah for a while, I enjoyed (?) watching former Speaker Harry Reid in action, supposedly a good Mormon Like when he said in answer to why he flat-out lied about Romney's taxes. His response was "He didn't win did he?" The best perfect example of "the ends justify the means". You can lie your butt off as long as you come out on top. That's ALL that matters.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Blade and Rumitoid,
This will be interesting. But perhaps it would be better served under the faith and religion section under its own topic?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I quite agree...

A most sensible idea...

Looking forward to it

rumitoid

How does that change or help anything?
It all ends up here in main "newest topic."