woodguru

The Mueller report is the proof of two distinct factions, on one side we have people who can see that obviously the report is long and heavily detailed, it can't possibly be read in a weekend.

Yet we have seen a narrative come out before the report was even released, Barr literally lied and misrepresented both what the report did in fact say, and put a spin to what it was saying that it did not. Of course right wing media and those in the GOP who have covered for Trump when they were in control of the house are running that narrative, nothing there, full exoneration, might as well burn it, we don't need it anymore.

Meanwhile, despite the narrative that people are s**k of this and want it over, books on the actual report and breakdowns of the case that Mueller made against Trump, cases of actual evidence necessary to fully indict and prosecute. Mueller didn't say there wasn't enough evidence to indict, he said it was the policy of the DOJ not to, and that includes it not being Barr's position to take a political stance either.

People owe it to themselves and this country to learn everything they can about what the report actually says, it is the only way anybody can be talking intelligently.

Anyone who has taken a position early on and refuses to engage in anything the report actually says is well beyond ignorance. I don't know what to say about anyone who argues the position that isn't basing arguments on what the report says, but what Barr, Trump, FOX, and right wing media sources. This is the issue where people can easily see and figure out who is lying to them, because it doesn't get better than being in black and white print.

Sew_What

I agree, how one side thinks it saying this or that, hasn't read it.

Smedley_buzkill

When did you read the report?

Noraa Loc: Kansas

Whine, whine, whine. New it was coming from you left wingers. What do you not understand about no collusion?

moldyoldy

Did anybody say no conspiracy?

Rose42

Allow me to t***slate and boil it down to the usual partisan blather -
Democrats are smart, republicans are ignorant. Many topics can be boiled down to this one sentence and democrats and republicans are interchangeable.

woodguru

What do you understand about the case for indicting and prosecuting Trump for obstruction, which is exactly what section two of the report is? You don't, you'll argue your ignorance until Trump is impeached, which he will be... whether the senate follows is another story, and they may ride this right up to the e******n...or not.

woodguru

Funny that the point is made about whether you take it upon yourself to actually read and understand it though isn't it? This is proof of who prefers ignorance and which side goes with the reality, it doesn't get clearer than this. Who is going to win an argument, the one quoting the facts or the one repeating the rhetoric that is clueless about the facts? By the way, that isn't a trick or even tricky question, it's obvious.

Do yourselves a favor, read just the section that deals with McGahn, he refused to do what Trump wanted him too, and it got far worse when Trump then wanted him to take his objections out of the record, which he also refused to do.

Trump is treading violating a law that could result in him being put in jail for ten years by telling McGahn and the security clearance guy not to testify before the senate. There is a specific law regarding influencing testimony that he is directly violating multiple times with different people.Talk about stupid, that is Trump interfering with people who are now civilians testifying.

woodguru

Did anyone say no obstruction (besides Barr)?

Rose42

Because I point out the ongoing nature of most topics which is - "you're stupid, no YOU'RE stupid" I must not have read it and I must be a Trump supporter. Neither are true.

You always like to claim ignorance is a characteristic of the right only. That is one thing that adds to the divide. Ignorance is bipartisan and no one is objective.

woodguru

And ignorance is so easy to fix, stupidity is those who refuse to educate themselves to the t***h and facts.

woodguru

You are absolutely correct, and the burden is on people in this critical issue to know and understand what Trump has done and what he gets impeached for.

People refusing to actually read even sections of the report don't care, and they will blindly continue to support their side. Anyone who blathers about caring about the rule of law and the constitution really needs to know what Mueller outlined and proved in his report that Trump did.

Noraa Loc: Kansas

Look in the mirror!!!

Noraa Loc: Kansas

Unlike Hillary, Eric Holder, Obama, Loretta Lynch and all the others that were supposedly investigated and found careless not guilty of collusion.

moldyoldy

Barr, Fox, and trump