PeterS

So the question I have is do the same lawmakers who want to k**l people for not following biblical law also think that they are constitutionalists? I ask because secularism is a cornerstone principle of freedom and it seems to be absent from the thoughts of those who make claims of speaking for the constitution...

Common_Sense_Matters

Link to article so we can read it?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I would also be interested in the article....

Hope you are well today Peter...

Rose42

Your premise that secularism is a cornerstone of freedom is false.

Here’s the article. This guy has more than a few screws loose -

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/04/gop-lawmaker-who-promotes-biblical-law-busted-planning-violent-attacks/

Idaho

So Maxine Waters can openly and publicly agitate for violence against Washington conservative lawmakers and their staff - and that’s OK - but a state level politician having one or two chats with constituents about countering a****a and visiting some websites, but not contributing to discussions of violence is pilloried.

Looks purely and simply a hit piece aimed at both the politician and at the Christian religion.

Much like the pink hat vagina brigade - innuendo and accusation being accepted as ‘proof’ of crime.

Dems need to be careful with their rhetoric, they are waking up the sleeping bear.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Good thing they caught this guy with his plans to do harm.. Unlike the guy that went on his shooting spree of the Republicans practicing for a soft ball game...

Whacked out i***ts is what they are ..

A true Constitutionalist Understand separation of religion and politics and this incident has nothing to do with either Constitutionally..Just an over zealous i***t...

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

You are so dead wrong. Worse, you are deceptive. Worse yet, you are self-deceived and won't listen to rational arguments that could help you overcome.

"Secularism : indifference to or rejection or exclusion of religion and religious considerations" Merriam-Webster.

American liberty was founded on the opposite of secularism! I've got news for you: Secularists didn't invent religious liberty, religionists and theists, and more particularly Christians and Christian sympathizers did so they could have the freedom to express their religious convictions, not oppress them! Now where's your "secular foundation"? If you want a country truly based on secularism, try China. Of course, you won't, because you're a hypocrite and appreciate the liberties religionists gave you, so much, that you want to oppress the religion and religious expressions of those who gave and assured you those liberties in the first place!

In America we have the God-given, Constitutionally recognized right TO practice our religion, which means in every area of our lives INCLUDING our politics. It is called freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion for a reason. If you understood the difference, you wouldn't make such a false statement about secularism being a cornerstone of liberty! What a lie, and a travesty that you've bought into that lie! Freedom OF religion is diametrically opposite to "secularism" which would be the utter oppression of religious thought.

That's where you godless [l*****ts] come in. The oppression part. Because you think supplanting freedom of religion with such ideas as secularism would somehow "liberate" you from having to hear people testify of their personal relationships with Our Creator. Deal with it. If you don't like it, go make your own ball of clay to live on. That's the only place where and when you'll finally get your total "freedom from religion", on the planet that you create out of nothing. Guess what, that ain't going to happen, no matter how much you deceive yourself into thinking you make your own reality or destiny. So until then, you'll have to deal with those of us who recognize, openly speak of, and give glory to the Creator of all.

You are are the ones who are oppressive in your insistence on "indifference to or rejection or exclusion of religion and religious considerations". That is YOU imposing your religion [humanism] on others which is unconstitutional and immoral and tyrannical!

If you don't like people imposing their religion on you--that is, forcing you to practice a religious or non-religious ideology-- then don't expect or guilt-trip into or force others to practice your humanistic religion of indifference to, or denying that, God is a factor in our thoughts, culture and actions.

Now, how would you like it if we take some individualistic, off-the-wall whacko from the left as prime examples of leftism? The fact is we don't have to, we have enough evidence of l*****t whackos, who seem to be the bulk of their mainstream characters!!!

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

You are attempting to paint all believers with this morons hatred.

You are a Terrorist Troll spreading H**e toward Believers.

You are a pathetic old fool with one foot in the grave.

Where your real problem is... You lil peter, h**e God!

You can't hurt the Creator, so you try to hurt people who believe in Him.

In this ever so late stage of your life, you have become more jealous and h**eful of any people who believe in God.

That's why you support the attacks by terrorists on any believers.

Yes, lil Peter, you are just as dangerous on the internet as the fool you're highlighting.

Idaho

Overactive imagination. Where are your facts?

Morgan

I don't believe I've ever heard argument before, that being humane is a "religion". That's quite something. You're really grabbing at straws here. No one can control your thoughts, possibly your actions, by the law but even that would be after the fact.

You're angry over people promoting humanity? One doesn't have to follow a religion in order to follow morals of honesty, integrity, good ethics, to simply do the right thing. These are things taught yes, but they can be taught also without religion, that's the simple t***h.

Your definition of a so-called whacko is what? The fact that they don't judge gays?

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Thanks for the link, Rose

Common_Sense_Matters

Thank you for that link.

woodguru

So because Waters did it you won't denounce the right doing it? Stop worrying what the other side is doing and clean up your own backyard.

Idaho

Clean up yours - far more dirt and corruption on the liberal side of the divide with no sign of improvement.

Morgan

Clearly a right-sided perspective.