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Apr 21, 2019 14:31:41   #
Rose42
 
This is insanity.

Bill to criminalize chaining of dogs passes Texas Senate

AUSTIN, Texas (KEYE) - A bill that would criminalize chaining a dog as well as not providing adequate shelter for them is one step closer to becoming law in Texas.

Senate Bill 295 would make it a criminal offense if owners unlawfully restrained their dogs with chain leashes and do not provide adequate shelter for their animals, reports The Houston Chronicle.

Fox 26 Houston reports that the bill has passed the Senate, and is on the way to the Texas House.

According to the text of the bill, "adequate shelter" means a clean and sturdy structure that allows the dog protection from rain, hail, sleet, snow, and subfreezing temperatures.

SB 295 would also eliminate any use of chains to restrain a dog that is left outside and unattended.

Read the full bill here.

https://kfdm.com/news/nation-world/bill-to-criminalize-chaining-of-dogs-passes-texas-senate

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Apr 21, 2019 14:40:16   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
I'd like to chain up a few dogs in Congress.

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Apr 21, 2019 14:45:00   #
Rose42
 
MR Mister wrote:
I'd like to chain up a few dogs in Congress.


Me too. And all the animal rightists that push these bills.

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Apr 21, 2019 15:05:16   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
This is insanity.

Bill to criminalize chaining of dogs passes Texas Senate

AUSTIN, Texas (KEYE) - A bill that would criminalize chaining a dog as well as not providing adequate shelter for them is one step closer to becoming law in Texas.

Senate Bill 295 would make it a criminal offense if owners unlawfully restrained their dogs with chain leashes and do not provide adequate shelter for their animals, reports The Houston Chronicle.

Fox 26 Houston reports that the bill has passed the Senate, and is on the way to the Texas House.

According to the text of the bill, "adequate shelter" means a clean and sturdy structure that allows the dog protection from rain, hail, sleet, snow, and subfreezing temperatures.

SB 295 would also eliminate any use of chains to restrain a dog that is left outside and unattended.

Read the full bill here.

https://kfdm.com/news/nation-world/bill-to-criminalize-chaining-of-dogs-passes-texas-senate
This is insanity. br br Bill to criminalize chain... (show quote)


I'm against chaining dogs so I agree with this bill.

If you have to chain a dog, then maybe a dog is not the pet for you.

Dogs suffer more by human hands than they do in the wild.

Just because you 'can' have a dog doesn't mean that you should.

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Apr 21, 2019 16:33:57   #
Rose42
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
I'm against chaining dogs so I agree with this bill.

If you have to chain a dog, then maybe a dog is not the pet for you.

Dogs suffer more by human hands than they do in the wild.

Just because you 'can' have a dog doesn't mean that you should.


I have chained out many dogs. Are you telling me I have no right to have a dog? Do you know anything about chaining out or do you only know what you read? You never hear about the responsible owners only the ones who are i***ts.

What do you know about animal husbandry? Any first hand experience especially with dogs? Working dogs? Did you know that chaining out is much healthier and gives a dog a lot more room than putting them in a pen?

Your reasoning is exactly like those who wish to ban certain types of guns. Because the actions of a few i***ts they want to impose restrictions on the vast majority who do nothing wrong.

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Apr 21, 2019 17:29:30   #
Kevyn
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
I'm against chaining dogs so I agree with this bill.

If you have to chain a dog, then maybe a dog is not the pet for you.

Dogs suffer more by human hands than they do in the wild.

Just because you 'can' have a dog doesn't mean that you should.
i agree if you can't spring for a doghouse and fence you have no business with a dog

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Apr 21, 2019 18:13:32   #
Rose42
 
Kevyn wrote:
i agree if you can't spring for a doghouse and fence you have no business with a dog


And with that grand pronouncement you just said no one who lives in an apartment or condo is fit to have a dog.

What a nasty nature you have.

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Apr 21, 2019 18:26:45   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Rose42 wrote:

What a nasty nature you have.


You nailed it with that statement. Kevvy to a tee.

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Apr 21, 2019 18:45:39   #
Rose42
 
youngwilliam wrote:
You nailed it with that statement. Kevvy to a tee.


Some people really don't know advantages of chaining out - done properly. They see ads and deceptive information put together by animal rights groups. They typically depict small, very thin dogs with a huge chain, one with a very short chain and a dog that doesn't look healthy, claims that dogs are on them 24x7, or one thats just hunched over and looks depressed (though dogs don't get depressed like humans do). Or they see misinformation like it makes dogs aggressive. Sure, if you don't know what you're doing.

There's a big difference between animal rights (the HSUS, PETA, etc) and animal welfare.

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Apr 21, 2019 19:45:51   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
I have chained out many dogs. Are you telling me I have no right to have a dog? Do you know anything about chaining out or do you only know what you read? You never hear about the responsible owners only the ones who are i***ts.

What do you know about animal husbandry? Any first hand experience especially with dogs? Working dogs? Did you know that chaining out is much healthier and gives a dog a lot more room than putting them in a pen?

Your reasoning is exactly like those who wish to ban certain types of guns. Because the actions of a few i***ts they want to impose restrictions on the vast majority who do nothing wrong.
I have chained out many dogs. Are you telling me ... (show quote)


You have every right to have a dog.

You have absolutely no right to break the law.

My experience with canines spans my entire life time, and I currently have two hybrids that range over and guard the fenceline of a twelve acre tract.

I have trained coon hounds, hog dogs and German Shepherds and in my sixty three years I have never found it necessary to chain a dog out.

I also do not allow dogs of any kind in my home.

Dogs stink, and most dog owners are notoriously nose blind to their funk.

Apartment dwellers would be better advised to choose the little toy doggies like the chihuahua or the miniature pinschers.

They don't stink as bad as large dogs.

This bill is definitely the result of the pitbull fad that exploded and perpetuated the dog fighting industry.

Some of these nimrods would chain these poor creatures out and horribly mistreat and neglect them.

So the bill isn't designed to keep you from enjoying the companionship of your dog.

We just want to you to house ol' fido without chaining him out.

Is that really too much to ask ?

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Apr 21, 2019 20:16:24   #
Rose42
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
You have every right to have a dog.

You have absolutely no right to break the law.

My experience with canines spans my entire life time, and I currently have two hybrids that range over and guard the fenceline of a twelve acre tract.

I have trained coon hounds, hog dogs and German Shepherds and in my sixty three years I have never found it necessary to chain a dog out.

I also do not allow dogs of any kind in my home.

Dogs stink, and most dog owners are notoriously nose blind to their funk.

Apartment dwellers would be better advised to choose the little toy doggies like the chihuahua or the miniature pinschers.

They don't stink as bad as large dogs.

This bill is definitely the result of the pitbull fad that exploded and perpetuated the dog fighting industry.

Some of these nimrods would chain these poor creatures out and horribly mistreat and neglect them.

So the bill isn't designed to keep you from enjoying the companionship of your dog.

We just want to you to house ol' fido without chaining him out.

Is that really too much to ask ?
You have every right to have a dog. br br You hav... (show quote)


Yes it is. Its none of your business how I care for my dogs. Absolutely none. They are well cared for, trained and healthier than most. I know what I'm doing.

And its none of my business if you don't want to bring your dogs inside though many would skewer you for that.

Its not your business if an apartment dweller wants a German Shepherd or anything else either. I know this breed and I know they can be well cared for by someone living in an apartment.

My dogs can clear a 10 foot wall with no problem but only a 6 foot fence is allowed. Penning creates more behavior issues than chaining out so I don't do it.

I'm well aware of how some people treat their chained out dogs. I'm also very well aware of how some h****rs treat their dogs. Not saying you treat yours badly but I know what goes on. Yet I would never advocate for laws regulating it. That is madness.

I would caution you to support anything that further restricts animal owners. It has no effect on the i***ts who shouldn't have an animal and only hurts responsible owners. This is how rights are taken away inch by inch. Think it doesn't affect you in the long run? Oh yes it does.

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Apr 21, 2019 20:29:19   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
Yes it is. Its none of your business how I care for my dogs. Absolutely none. They are well cared for, trained and healthier than most. I know what I'm doing.

And its none of my business if you don't want to bring your dogs inside though many would skewer you for that.

Its not your business if an apartment dweller wants a German Shepherd or anything else either. I know this breed and I know they can be well cared for by someone living in an apartment.

My dogs can clear a 10 foot wall with no problem but only a 6 foot fence is allowed. Penning creates more behavior issues than chaining out so I don't do it.

I'm well aware of how some people treat their chained out dogs. I'm also very well aware of how some h****rs treat their dogs. Not saying you treat yours badly but I know what goes on. Yet I would never advocate for laws regulating it. That is madness.

I would caution you to support anything that further restricts animal owners. It has no effect on the i***ts who shouldn't have an animal and only hurts responsible owners. This is how rights are taken away inch by inch. Think it doesn't affect you in the long run? Oh yes it does.
Yes it is. Its none of your business how I care f... (show quote)


Well ma'am, it looks as though we won't find common ground on the chain issue.

But anybody who loves dogs is always welcome at my campfire.

Good luck and Happy Easter............. Ma'am

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Apr 21, 2019 20:41:44   #
emarine
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
I'm against chaining dogs so I agree with this bill.

If you have to chain a dog, then maybe a dog is not the pet for you.

Dogs suffer more by human hands than they do in the wild.

Just because you 'can' have a dog doesn't mean that you should.




Holly s**t Woofe buddy … I agree ...

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Apr 21, 2019 21:18:42   #
Rose42
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Well ma'am, it looks as though we won't find common ground on the chain issue.

But anybody who loves dogs is always welcome at my campfire.

Good luck and Happy Easter............. Ma'am


And mine too. Most people have good intentions with dogs . And I could show you that some of us do know what we’re doing.

A happy Easter to you too

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Apr 21, 2019 21:28:04   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
i agree if you can't spring for a doghouse and fence you have no business with a dog

Wh**ever happened to natural se******n and survival of the fittest? Didn't Darwin tell us that after all the genetic deficiencies were "evolved" out a particular species that the result would be a strong, fit, intelligent specimen that would adapt perfectly to wh**ever environment and climate it was born it? What happened to the dogs? Didn't they make the grade during the long evolutionary struggle?

Best I can tell, dogs, wolves, coyotes, foxes, jackals, and others of the canine species, and all other species in the animal kingdom, are well equipped to survive in the great outdoors. They are capable of finding shelter or even building their own--wolves are particularly adept at this. How about those polar bears? What the hell are they doing up there in the frigid regions of earth, sleeping on ice and diving into cold water to snag a seal?

The question is, what did we do to the dogs to make them so timid, so dependent, so weak and vulnerable to the elements that we have to pamper them, mollycoddle them, primp them, and protect them alla time like liberalism has done to so many humans?

I was born and raised among animals, domestic and wild, they outnumbered the humans 1000 to 1. Most everyone had a dog or dogs. But, of course, we lived in rugged, mountainous country where horses were more numerous than vehicles, and we didn't go in for Chihuahuas or toy poodles or those little mouse-like yappers, ours were shepherds, h****rs, pointers, setters, all the big guys.

As a young firefighter, I paid $500 for a pedigreed Malamute pup. He grew to a powerful 130 pound brute who had a natural relationship with snow. In fact, he seemed to feel he was in charge when winter came and did everything he could to make the snow behave. He was hell on icicles, snapped those babies off their perches and chewed them up like a lion eating a gazelle. Juneau was his name, he was intelligent, affectionate, playful, and comported himself like the soldier he was. Wrestling with him in the snow was a challenge and one helluva lot of fun. Juneau had no desire to be in the house, the only times we brought him in was to treat a wound or keep him out of a screaming, low temp blizzard. He wasn't much of a barker, he was a howler, a growler, a mid-night prowler.

I never chained him to anything or put him on a leash.

Pulling a sleigh was his favorite gig. I had a tow harness made for him.

I had borrowed a VW bug from a friend and was driving home from a winter outing with Juneau. He took up the entire back seat. Hit a patch of ice and the rear of the car slid off into the snow packed ditch. With the old bug's engine in the rear and drive wheels up front, I had a problem. The left front wheel was at least six inches off the ground. I tried the standard drill, rocked it back and forth, but the thing wouldn't budge. Then it dawned on me. I had help sitting the back seat. I harnessed the Commander of Winter, the captain of cold weather, to the front bumper, and he was pulling before I got back to the cab. When I got in and gunned the engine, out we rolled. When I got out to unhook him, I heard the clapping of hands. A woman across the street saw the whole thing, and she stood on her porch applauding.

I have had many animals in my care throughout my life, and none of them were pussies.

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