rumitoid

You may be right. If those are the scenarios you have about those who need help, let 'em starve.

rumitoid

Yes, but you brought up state control as being all that is needed. I was showing it is clearly not capable.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

State control of welfare ...

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Clang! oops.....CLANNGG!!!!

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Tired of your self righteous sanctimonious garbage! Go lecture somewhere else before I nuke New Mexico!

waltmoreno

Ok rumi. If the common sense ideas of this 21 year old Texas girl catch on, help might be on the way. But I'm thinking the recipients of the government largess ain't gonna like it. So much so that they'll refuse to accept it. Good!
Here are her ideas.


A 21-year-old girl in Waco, Texas says “Put me in charge!”
by TIM CONDON
This, from a 21-year-old female, was in the Waco Tribune Herald in Waco, Texas.

"Put me in charge . . . "

Put me in charge of food stamps. I’d get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza…

…then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get tats and piercings, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks?
You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your "home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, wh**ever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the "common good."

Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self-esteem," consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self-esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND, while you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can V**E! Yes that is correct. For you to v**e would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from v****g while you are receiving a government welfare check. If you want to v**e, then get a job."

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Texans be smart...

Smedley_buzkill

How about someone who has worked and paid taxes for 39 years and gets disabled five years shy of retirement age? I mean disabled at the tender age of pushing 60?
Make it 49 years, because at least ten of those years I was working 2 jobs to pay off my damn mortgage early.

Smedley_buzkill

Up to a point, I agree. As I pointed out in another reply, I became disabled five years shy of retirement. Are you saying that the 39 years I worked and paid taxes, (about ten years of it 2 jobs) doesn't earn me the right to v**e? How about the time I spent in the Army? Does that make me less eligible than a non veteran who isn't disabled? I paid in a lot and didn't get much back. I see healthy young people getting all sorts of government handouts and this is wrong. Hell, I was sixty before I had to get food stamps temporarily.. I see whole and healthy people in their twenties getting them.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Subsidizing industries is wrong too. Hungry children? We always took care of them through private charity quite well. Ditto the disabled. The elderly were always take care of by their children.

Your solution? Insanity & tyranny.

As usual, like all liberals, you resort to the old left wing hysterical lie that if government didn't provide it. it wouldn't get done.

fullspinzoo

The cost of a F-35 fighter jet is 89.5 MILLION $$$$ not $1.5 trillion, but we're used to you pulling numbers so far fetched out of your ass. So once again, you're full of s**t. That's why nobody takes anything you say as credible or serious. At least I provide a link. You don't know what a link is. (your math is almost as bad as your spelling!!!).

SkptkSumthin

Rumi, let's not forget which party it was that fought to keep the s***es, passed the Jim Crow laws, fought to keep segregation, and helped Margaret Sanger in her efforts to commit genocide against black people.
Native Americans were included in the Constitution until Jackson's democrats passed the Indian Removal Acts, found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, which ruling was ignored by the democrats. The founders recognized that future generations would find imperfections in the original body, and wisely included the provisions for amending it.
Thus we have the 14th Amendment for former s***es, and the 19th Amendment for women. Todays conservatives seek to preserve the good that went before, while the progressives seek to mock and belittle by conflating the good with the bad that went before as an excuse to ignore the Constitution that was meant to preserve the God-given rights of all of us. If you can temper your anger (and hatred?), it will do wonders for the conversation.

SkptkSumthin

And the Interstate Highway System is authorized by the Commerce clause.

The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island

Infrastructure is covered in the Constitution. But yes, states would be better equipped to handle such things, when a dispute arises the feds and SCOTUS can settle it.

Again, covered. The limitations are set upon the general government, not the state, like most, you seem to have it backwards.

What does this have to do with your original post? Do you often time travel from century to century... btw, amended. Welcome back to the 21st century.

When you’re done time traveling, bring this up to democrats, they own it. But once again, nothing to do with the original post. You may be intellectually frustrated and just want to yell .... R****T!!! (Yawn)

For someone with heart issues, you should be careful about how much it bleeds.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

You have gotten that right. Keep posting the t***h maybe some of the socialists might someday actually understand the t***h.