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Apr 13, 2019 23:00:52   #
teabag09
 
Lonewolf wrote:
To trump and all those whose selective memory, that wont allow them to hear why we investigated!



https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/trump-russia/?utm_term=.76d9e3f38970


For your information it actually started in 2015 when DJT announced that he was throwing his hat in the ring. The klinton clan knew they didn't have to worry about the Republican cast opposing her. They had enough or could make up enough dirt on them as they had all been public figures for a long time. They also knew they had the msm in their pocket. DJT on the other hand was a known but unknown. An outsider who neither side trusted or really knew. Both sides were forming against DJT being the nominee and trying to amass dirty laundry against him. To their dismay he didn't give a rat's ass and just barged ahead. For what ever reason Hillary made a sorry effort believing she had the e******n in the bag. But the effort to discredit DJT started before he was elected and I hope people from both sides of the aisle go to prison behind it. Mike

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Apr 13, 2019 23:02:08   #
debeda
 
teabag09 wrote:
For your information it actually started in 2015 when DJT announced that he was throwing his hat in the ring. The klinton clan knew they didn't have to worry about the Republican cast opposing her. They had enough or could make up enough dirt on them as they had all been public figures for a long time. They also knew they had the msm in their pocket. DJT on the other hand was a known but unknown. An outsider who neither side trusted or really knew. Both sides were forming against DJT being the nominee and trying to amass dirty laundry against him. To their dismay he didn't give a rat's ass and just barged ahead. For what ever reason Hillary made a sorry effort believing she had the e******n in the bag. But the effort to discredit DJT started before he was elected and I hope people from both sides of the aisle go to prison behind it. Mike
For your information it actually started in 2015 w... (show quote)



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Apr 13, 2019 23:18:14   #
teabag09
 
Lonewolf wrote:
It started long befor the dossier whuch has proven true


I'll give you credit for not giving up when you've been beaten to a pulp. Are you even reading anything that's being presented and has and can be validated? The dossier(Steele Report0 was written about someone else ten years earlier and the names and dates were changed. Do you do any research on your own or do you just take the liberal talking heads spin and just repeat? I ask that because THEY don't do research, they just spout wh**ever and you i***ts are supposed to swallow, and that you do. Tastes good I suppose! Mike

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Apr 13, 2019 23:25:34   #
teabag09
 
Lonewolf wrote:
if you contact anyone in the Russian government you will find out


I contact someone from Russia on occasion. Her name is Lori and I find her to be a lovely woman and lady. I suppose because of this connection I should expect to be surveilled. If that's the case, kind of like SJD's case, BRING IT ON! Mike

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Apr 13, 2019 23:27:46   #
teabag09
 
emarine wrote:
And I wonder what Trump has spent in lawyers to subvert our laws?...


What ever he's spent is his money and not the taxpayers. Nice try dumbo. Mike

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Apr 13, 2019 23:31:31   #
teabag09
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I feel for you, laddie buck, I really do, you are not only way behind the curve on this issue, you're not even on the right road. The Steele dossier is a complete fabrication.

The Steele Dossier Is F**e -- And Here Are The Reasons Why

It is understandable why you are so ignorant of geo-politics and the complex world of international relations.

Why do we have a Department of State? Why do we have embassies and consulates in nations all over the world? Why does every administration establish foreign policies? Why do presidents, prime ministers, parliamentarians, monarchs, kings, ambassadors, emissaries, envoys, diplomats, intelligence agents, military commanders, senators, congressmen, and other government officials from nearly all nations on earth TALK TO EACH OTHER?

And, what about international businesses?

How could the governments and businesses of the world develop relations, negotiate policies, seek agreements, set up coalitions, make deals, and in critical times seek alliances to prevent or prosecute a war if none of them TALKED TO EACH OTHER?

If you think members of Trump's administration committed an act of treason in talking with Russians, then you will have to go back through our history and start picking out the culprits in every administration who had the gall to speak with or meet with a representative or counterpart from a foreign government.

Go back to just to the 1940s. Did the Roosevelt administration, and the man himself, talk to Russians? Do the conferences at Malta, Yalta, Potsdam and Casablanca ring any bells? Did Truman, Ike, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, the Bushes, Clinton, or Obama ever talk to Russians, or any other foreign government?

As I recall, Obama and his SecState Kerry worked one hell of deal with a foreign government that is a mortal enemy of the United States. And, they didn't do that with a few phone calls.

I reckon the most scandalous violation of constitutional authority by a single US senator was when, in 1984, Ted Kennedy, the Lion of the Senate, acting on his own, sent his personal representative John Tunney to Moscow to deliver a proposal to Yuri Andropov the head of the Russian government. The memorandum was delivered to Victor Chebrikov, head of the Russian KGB.

Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit
By Peter Robinson

Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times, came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy.

"On 9-10 May of this year," the May 14 memorandum explained, "Sen. Edward Kennedy's close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow." (Tunney was Kennedy's law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) "The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the C*******t Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov."

Kennedy's message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 p**********l e******n. "The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations," the memorandum stated. "These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the e******n campaign."

Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers.

First he offered to visit Moscow. "The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA." Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda.

Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. "A direct appeal ... to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. ... If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. ... The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side."

Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time--and that they r****d the arrangement to look like honest journalism.

Kennedy's motives? "Like other rational people," the memorandum explained, "[Kennedy] is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations." But that high-minded concern represented only one of Kennedy's motives.

"Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988," the memorandum continued. "Kennedy does not discount that during the 1984 campaign, the Democratic Party may officially turn to him to lead the fight against the Republicans and elect their candidate president."

Kennedy proved eager to deal with Andropov--the leader of the Soviet Union, a former director of the KGB and a principal mover in both the crushing of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and the suppression of the 1968 Prague Spring--at least in part to advance his own political prospects.

In 1992, Tim Sebastian published a story about the memorandum in the London Times. Here in the U.S., Sebastian's story received no attention. In his 2006 book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of C*******m, historian Paul Kengor reprinted the memorandum in full. "The media," Kengor says, "ignored the revelation."

"The document," Kengor continues, "has stood the test of time. I scrutinized it more carefully than anything I've ever dealt with as a scholar. I showed the document to numerous authorities who deal with Soviet archival material. No one has debunked the memorandum or shown it to be a forgery. Kennedy's office did not deny it."

Why bring all this up now? No evidence exists that Andropov ever acted on the memorandum--within eight months, the Soviet leader would be dead--and now that Kennedy himself has died even many of the former senator's opponents find themselves grieving. Yet precisely because Kennedy represented such a commanding figure--perhaps the most compelling liberal of our day--we need to consider his record in full.

Doing so, it turns out, requires pondering a document in the archives of the politburo.

When President Reagan chose to confront the Soviet Union, calling it the evil empire that it was, Sen. Edward Kennedy chose to offer aid and comfort to General Secretary Andropov. On the Cold War, the greatest issue of his lifetime, Kennedy got it wrong.


But Kennedy's Soviet Gambit is small potatoes compared to Obama's unconstitutional and illegal weaponization of government agencies in his effort to destroy a political opponent. Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the DNC were in cahoots on this. The infamous meeting on the tarmac at Sky Harbor between Bill Clinton and Obama's AG, Loretta Lynch, wasn't just to say "hi" and talk about their grandkids. They were "colluding" to protect Hillary from the FBI email investigation.
I feel for you, laddie buck, I really do, you are ... (show quote)


Great post, he/they, either won't read and if they do won't understand. Mike

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Apr 13, 2019 23:33:53   #
teabag09
 
Lonewolf wrote:
why so many in trumps campaign had contact and LIED about it trump himself lied by saying he had no business till he did and we know Russia helped trump


DA, DJT works through lawyers for the most part with his business deals. Catch up. Mike

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Apr 13, 2019 23:35:17   #
teabag09
 
Lonewolf wrote:
A new indictment was served today


To a democrat. Mike

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Apr 13, 2019 23:42:28   #
teabag09
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Uh no, the Whitewater Witch got the germ of the idea (I can still remember her smiling during the second debate when Trump used sarcasm (over her head). So I guess she thought 'Russia, yeah.'


The Whitewater Witch was right when she told Donna Brassall to fix this or we'll all hangwhen DJT was elected. I'm totally surprised these people haven't fled to Lolita's island. Mike

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Apr 14, 2019 08:29:33   #
Mikeyavelli
 
teabag09 wrote:
The Whitewater Witch was right when she told Donna Brassall to fix this or we'll all hangwhen DJT was elected. I'm totally surprised these people haven't fled to Lolita's island. Mike


Loved all your posts above.
Hilliar and obama are so above the law that they are celebrating the convictions of Comey and McCabe for treason. That's the deal they made and it won't go any higher. Hillary still doesn't know anything, anything, I tell you, and, of course, obama saw it all on TV just like we did. He also had no idea, no idea I tell you that those evil guys Comey and McCabe could do such a thing.
Deal's already made.

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Apr 14, 2019 08:35:11   #
debeda
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Loved all your posts above.
Hilliar and obama are so above the law that they are celebrating the convictions of Comey and McCabe for treason. That's the deal they made and it won't go any higher. Hillary still doesn't know anything, anything, I tell you, and, of course, obama saw it all on TV just like we did. He also had no idea, no idea I tell you that those evil guys Comey and McCabe could do such a thing.
Deal's already made.


I agree, was just talking to a friend about something similar yesterday!!!

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Apr 14, 2019 08:41:41   #
Mikeyavelli
 
debeda wrote:
I agree, was just talking to a friend about something similar yesterday!!!


Sad that America has to go through a failed c**p and the c**p leaders get off to start another one.
Eh, Trump might still light a fire and push higher, but I think that if obama and hilliar are indicted, some military loyalists will split and organize a military force to protect them.

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Apr 14, 2019 08:48:23   #
debeda
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Sad that America has to go through a failed c**p and the c**p leaders get off to start another one.
Eh, Trump might still light a fire and push higher, but I think that if obama and hilliar are indicted, some military loyalists will split and organize a military force to protect them.


I can't imagine the military wanting to protect Obama. Hillary, maybe. Just cuz she's been around so long and has longer tentacles. But even so.....

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Apr 14, 2019 09:29:06   #
TrueAmerican
 
byronglimish wrote:
If you rely on the Wapo, you'll never be any smarter than rachell maddows membership goon proselytes.

I like ya son, so I'm trying to get ya a little sharper than a bowling ball.



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Apr 14, 2019 10:26:32   #
Mikeyavelli
 
debeda wrote:
I can't imagine the military wanting to protect Obama. Hillary, maybe. Just cuz she's been around so long and has longer tentacles. But even so.....


Oh my yes! The obama army is still in place, with loyal generals who would splinter to protect him. If obama gets his due, the years of progress made by the anti American International left would instantly stop in total defeat.
As in chess, game over when the king is k**led.

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