Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

I'm all American! No Ruskie collusion here.

Are you Russian??

Lonewolf

no

tommsteyer

and in 2020 Trump can cite the Democrats wasting 25 million dollars on a witch hunt!

emarine

And I wonder what Trump has spent in lawyers to subvert our laws?...

Lonewolf

and we can brag of the 40 million we took from Manafort.

In case you forgot tray gowdy spent 20 million and got nothing

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I feel for you, laddie buck, I really do, you are not only way behind the curve on this issue, you're not even on the right road. The Steele dossier is a complete fabrication.

The Steele Dossier Is F**e -- And Here Are The Reasons Why

It is understandable why you are so ignorant of geo-politics and the complex world of international relations.

Why do we have a Department of State? Why do we have embassies and consulates in nations all over the world? Why does every administration establish foreign policies? Why do presidents, prime ministers, parliamentarians, monarchs, kings, ambassadors, emissaries, envoys, diplomats, intelligence agents, military commanders, senators, congressmen, and other government officials from nearly all nations on earth TALK TO EACH OTHER?

And, what about international businesses?

How could the governments and businesses of the world develop relations, negotiate policies, seek agreements, set up coalitions, make deals, and in critical times seek alliances to prevent or prosecute a war if none of them TALKED TO EACH OTHER?

If you think members of Trump's administration committed an act of treason in talking with Russians, then you will have to go back through our history and start picking out the culprits in every administration who had the gall to speak with or meet with a representative or counterpart from a foreign government.

Go back to just to the 1940s. Did the Roosevelt administration, and the man himself, talk to Russians? Do the conferences at Malta, Yalta, Potsdam and Casablanca ring any bells? Did Truman, Ike, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, the Bushes, Clinton, or Obama ever talk to Russians, or any other foreign government?

As I recall, Obama and his SecState Kerry worked one hell of deal with a foreign government that is a mortal enemy of the United States. And, they didn't do that with a few phone calls.

I reckon the most scandalous violation of constitutional authority by a single US senator was when, in 1984, Ted Kennedy, the Lion of the Senate, acting on his own, sent his personal representative John Tunney to Moscow to deliver a proposal to Yuri Andropov the head of the Russian government. The memorandum was delivered to Victor Chebrikov, head of the Russian KGB.

Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit
By Peter Robinson

Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times, came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy.

"On 9-10 May of this year," the May 14 memorandum explained, "Sen. Edward Kennedy's close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow." (Tunney was Kennedy's law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) "The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the C*******t Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov."

Kennedy's message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 p**********l e******n. "The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations," the memorandum stated. "These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the e******n campaign."

Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers.

First he offered to visit Moscow. "The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA." Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda.

Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. "A direct appeal ... to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. ... If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. ... The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side."

Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time--and that they r****d the arrangement to look like honest journalism.

Kennedy's motives? "Like other rational people," the memorandum explained, "[Kennedy] is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations." But that high-minded concern represented only one of Kennedy's motives.

"Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988," the memorandum continued. "Kennedy does not discount that during the 1984 campaign, the Democratic Party may officially turn to him to lead the fight against the Republicans and elect their candidate president."

Kennedy proved eager to deal with Andropov--the leader of the Soviet Union, a former director of the KGB and a principal mover in both the crushing of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and the suppression of the 1968 Prague Spring--at least in part to advance his own political prospects.

In 1992, Tim Sebastian published a story about the memorandum in the London Times. Here in the U.S., Sebastian's story received no attention. In his 2006 book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of C*******m, historian Paul Kengor reprinted the memorandum in full. "The media," Kengor says, "ignored the revelation."

"The document," Kengor continues, "has stood the test of time. I scrutinized it more carefully than anything I've ever dealt with as a scholar. I showed the document to numerous authorities who deal with Soviet archival material. No one has debunked the memorandum or shown it to be a forgery. Kennedy's office did not deny it."

Why bring all this up now? No evidence exists that Andropov ever acted on the memorandum--within eight months, the Soviet leader would be dead--and now that Kennedy himself has died even many of the former senator's opponents find themselves grieving. Yet precisely because Kennedy represented such a commanding figure--perhaps the most compelling liberal of our day--we need to consider his record in full.

Doing so, it turns out, requires pondering a document in the archives of the politburo.

When President Reagan chose to confront the Soviet Union, calling it the evil empire that it was, Sen. Edward Kennedy chose to offer aid and comfort to General Secretary Andropov. On the Cold War, the greatest issue of his lifetime, Kennedy got it wrong.

But Kennedy's Soviet Gambit is small potatoes compared to Obama's unconstitutional and illegal weaponization of government agencies in his effort to destroy a political opponent. Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the DNC were in cahoots on this. The infamous meeting on the tarmac at Sky Harbor between Bill Clinton and Obama's AG, Loretta Lynch, wasn't just to say "hi" and talk about their grandkids. They were "colluding" to protect Hillary from the FBI email investigation.

Lonewolf

why so many in trumps campaign had contact and LIED about it trump himself lied by saying he had no business till he did and we know Russia helped trump

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

No, you don't know Russia helped Trump. Like I said, you are on the wrong road. You l*****t progs spent the last two years cheering Mueller as the most honorable and uncorrupted prosecutor in American history, but now that his final report reveals that president Trump DID NOT collude with Russians, DID NOT obstruct justice, and that Mueller would issue no further indictments, you don't believe a word he has said.

Any business Trump may have conducted with Russians BEFORE he became POTUS is irrelevant.

Lonewolf

A new indictment was served today

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Who got indicted???..Ooops,might that person be Greg Craig...Obama's WH Council????

Lonewolf

Yes but his crime was 2 years after he left Obama and met manafort so he is now connected to trump!

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Huh???....Nope it was during obama yrs..And even if it wasn't what difference does it make...He is looking at some jail time..And President Trump does NOT!!!!

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

2012 and 2013..when was your gay Kenyan agitator President??

You just post Bullbiden like a troll.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Right now I bet obama and all his cabal are s**tting their pants waiting for the AG Barr investigation.....

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

They've been trying to scare Barr, I hope that bear don't scare. I hope they're loading their drawers in guilty fear.