Lonewolf wrote:
and the state that city is located in should no longer send tax monies to the feds those states would be income tax free
Fine..... I am sure that the off set would be acceptable. Consider the last earthquake that hit SF cost the tax payer over 6.6 BILLION DOLLARS and statistically another quake will hit the area very soon. Also, considering that California receives 368-billion dollars each year from the Federal Government (US citizen tax payers)........ stacking up the numbers..... let them keep their tax money...... San Francisco millennial earning median income will pay about $12,536 in federal income taxes.... of course you will need to subtract the unemployed (4 percent) and those who are too young or too old to work (34 percent), and the 6.1 percent that are on disability.... (so do the math, according to US census San Francisco has a population (2017) of 884,363 leaving a few paying federal taxes). What they pay do not off set what they receive.....
dear old mitch blocks us from doing anything
Pennylynn wrote:
Fine..... I am sure that the off set would be acceptable. Consider the last earthquake that hit SF cost the tax payer over 6.6 BILLION DOLLARS and statistically another quake will hit the area very soon. Also, considering that California receives 368-billion dollars each year from the Federal Government (US citizen tax payers)........ stacking up the numbers..... let them keep their tax money...... San Francisco millennial earning median income will pay about $12,536 in federal income taxes.... of course you will need to subtract the unemployed (4 percent) and those who are too young or too old to work (34 percent), and the 6.1 percent that are on disability.... (so do the math, according to US census San Francisco has a population (2017) of 884,363 leaving a few paying federal taxes). What they pay do not off set what they receive.....
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You are talking to rats,Pennylynn...Their brains cant comprehend any logic that you are talking about...They need more simple explanation so their brains wont blow up from thinking so hard!!!
Lonewolf wrote:
dear old mitch blocks us from doing anything
You have House,and you havent anything about it,have you???
Lonewolf wrote:
the fact that republicans put forward no i*********n l*w that would penalize employers from hiring them should tell you republicans realy don't care its politics .
you had nearly 2 years with complete control and did nothing so just how important is it!
How many employers do you think are hiring i******s in the sanctuary cities? How many
legal citizens in those cities are happy about i******s being hired? And how many legal citizens do you think are leaving those cities because they don't like one bit what is happening to them?
How many times did Democrats v**e against Trump's attempts to pass a bill? (Answer, in case you don't "remember" is
four times!).
It's not that the President didn't try - he tried and tried and tried and tried. And he got shot down every single time he tried to take care of the border crisis.
proud republican wrote:
You are talking to rats,Pennylynn...Their brains cant comprehend any logic that you are talking about...They need more simple explanation so their brains wont blow up from thinking so hard!!!
In 2017 a list was made of the sanctuary cities... the list is long, but there is a pattern....see if you can spot it. If you are in the market to buy a home or just relocate.... keep these places in mind. When they declare themselves as sanctuary cities.... it is not just for those coming from Latin America. Just saying:
California
Alameda County
Berkley
Contra Costa County
Los Angeles County
Los Angeles
Monterey County
Napa County
Oakland
Riverside County
Sacramento County
San Bernardino County
San Diego County
San Francisco
San Francisco County
San Mateo County
Santa Ana
Santa Clara County
Santa Cruz County
Sonoma County
Watsonville
Colorado
Arapahoe County
Aurora
Boulder County
Denver
Denver County
Garfield County
Grand County
Jefferson County
Larimer County
Mesa County
Pitkin County
Pueblo County
Routt County
San Miguel County
Weld County
Connecticut
East Haven
Hartford
Florida
Alachua County
Clay County
Georgia
Clayton County
DeKalb County
Iowa
Benton County
Cass County
Franklin County
Fremont County
Greene County
Ida County
Iowa City
Iowa City, Johnson County
Jefferson County
Marion County
Monona County
Montgomery County
Pottawattamie County
Sioux County
Illinois
Chicago
Cook County
Kansas
Butler County
Harvey County
Louisiana
New Orleans
Massachusetts
Amherst
Boston
Cambridge
Concord
Lawrence
Newton
Northhampton
Somerville
Maryland
Baltimore
Montgomery County
Prince George's County
Michigan
Ingham County
Kalamazoo County
Kent County
Wayne County
Minnesota
Hennepin County
Mississippi
Jackson
Nebraska
Hall County
Sarpy County
New Jersey
Middlesex County
Newark
Ocean County
Union County
New Mexico
Bernalillo County
New Mexico County Jails
San Miguel
Nevada
Washoe County
New York
Albany
Franklin County
Ithaca
Nassau County
New York City
Omondaga County
St. Lawrence County
Wayne County
North Carolina
Buncombe County
Durham County
Forsyth County
Mecklenburg County
Orange County
Wake County
Ohio
Franklin County
Oregon
Baker County
Clackamas County
Clatsop County
Coos County
Crook County
Curry County
Deschutes County
Douglas County
Gilliam County
Grant County
Hood River County
Jackson County
Jefferson County
Josephine County
Lane Countyn
Lincoln County
Linn County
Malheur County
Marion County
Marlon County
Multnomah County
Polk County
Sherman County
Springfield
Tillamok County
Umatilla County
Union County
Wallowa County
Wasco County
Washington County
Wheeler County
Yamhill County
Pennsylvania
Bradford County
Bucks County
Butler County
Chester County
Clarion County
Delaware County
Eerie County
Franklin County
Lebanon County
Lehigh County
Lycoming County
Montgomery County
Montour County
Perry County
Philadelphia
Pike County
Westmoreland County
Rhode Island
Providence, Rhode Island
Rhode Island Department of Corrections This is no joke!
Virginia
Arlington County
Chesterfield County
Fairfax County
Vermont
Burlington
Montpelier
Winooski
Washington
Chelan County
Clallam County
Clark County
Cowlitz County
Franklin County
Jefferson County
King County
Kitsap County
Pierce County
San Juan County
Skagit County
Snohomish County
Spokane County
Seattle
Thurston County
Walla Walla County
Wallowa County
Whatcom County
Yakima County
EmilyD wrote:
How many employers do you think are hiring i******s in the sanctuary cities? How many legal citizens in those cities are happy about i******s being hired? And how many legal citizens do you think are leaving those cities because they don't like one bit what is happening to them?
How many times did Democrats v**e against Trump's attempts to pass a bill? (Answer, in case you don't "remember" is four times!).
It's not that the President didn't try - he tried and tried and tried and tried. And he got shot down every single time he tried to take care of the border crisis.
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Trump himself has hired them
Lonewolf wrote:
Trump himself has hired them
True, but there was a time (pre obama) when you could ask a person if they were citizens and they would tell the t***h.
Lone Wolf.
Of course we need a wall. Sending i******s to sanctuary cities and states is smart. That involves apprehended i******s, etc.
It won't upset the balance in sanctuary areas.
Those who fade into red states...it will upset that balance.
maximus
Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Hold up a minute. Aren't you the guys that said you welcome the immigrants, that they are just trying to make a better life and you had NO problem with them. MSM and the democrats are saying that Trump wants to dump immigrants on the sanctuary cities WHAT??? One dumps garbage, right? Are you now saying that those poor immigrants you once welcomed are garbage? Not to be welcomed and help?
If so, then I do believe that it's called...hypocrisy. Either it's AOK for the immigrants to be sent into the cities that love them, or yu need to stand with us, to build Trumps wall.
maximus wrote:
Hold up a minute. Aren't you the guys that said you welcome the immigrants, that they are just trying to make a better life and you had NO problem with them. MSM and the democrats are saying that Trump wants to dump immigrants on the sanctuary cities WHAT??? One dumps garbage, right? Are you now saying that those poor immigrants you once welcomed are garbage? Not to be welcomed and help?
If so, then I do believe that it's called...hypocrisy. Either it's AOK for the immigrants to be sent into the cities that love them, or yu need to stand with us, to build Trumps wall.
Hold up a minute. Aren't you the guys that said yo... (
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we can stop the flow at the border by enacting i*********n l*w that severely punishes employers so when you get caught hiring one to do your landscaping and are fined 10,000 believe me it will stop.
but the republicans will never do that
Lonewolf wrote:
we can stop the flow at the border by enacting i*********n l*w that severely punishes employers so when you get caught hiring one to do your landscaping and are fined 10,000 believe me it will stop.
but the republicans will never do that
Outline for us just how an employer is supposed to do this? I******s buy or steal documents... so how are employers supposed to verify the potential employee is here legally? Sanctuary cities do not track or arrest i******s nor do they turn them over to ICE. How could you get those employers to adhere to any laws made that would identify an illegal? Profiling is illegal (this even protects i******s as we saw in Arizona)...... How would you sort it all out? I am not being sarcastic, I really want to know how you think your idea is feasible. I like the idea and think it should be employed nation-wide... but, the devil is in the details and logistically I do not know how it could be accomplished.
I've been advocating exactly that for months. And lonewolf. lpnmajor, PeterS, Kevyn, Adam Schiff, Richard Blumenthal etc. should each take at least one into his home.
Pennylynn wrote:
Outline for us just how an employer is supposed to do this? I******s buy or steal documents... so how are employers supposed to verify the potential employee is here legally? Sanctuary cities do not track or arrest i******s nor do they turn them over to ICE. How could you get those employers to adhere to any laws made that would identify an illegal? Profiling is illegal (this even protects i******s as we saw in Arizona)...... How would you sort it all out? I am not being sarcastic, I really want to know how you think your idea is feasible. I like the idea and think it should be employed nation-wide... but, the devil is in the details and logistically I do not know how it could be accomplished.
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you raid employers and the government can tell good id from f**e. The e-verify system works pretty good
there are certain jobs we know ware we can find them 1 meat processing plants. hog and dairy farms
it doesn't have to be perfect once employers see other employers going to jail and paying huge fines it will stop, offer rewards to report employers . no jobs no i******s, I'M sure you can come up with some also
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