This entire thread is r****ded. To blame a television network for family division is a stupid premise at best. I have family members who won't speak to me, and some who I won't speak to myself. It has nothing to do with a television station. It is pure disagreement.

I believe in personal responsibility, and consequences. You work for what you have.
Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Nobody owes you a damn thing once you are grown.
Life is not fair.
If you wanna be a dirtbag, go do it on your own. I won't enable you, or make excuses for you.

Live, and let live.

This entire thread is r****ded. To blame a television network for family division is a stupid premise at best. I have family members who won't speak to me, and some who I won't speak to myself. It has nothing to do with a television station. It is pure disagreement.

I believe in personal responsibility, and consequences. You work for what you have.
Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Nobody owes you a damn thing once you are grown.
Life is not fair.
If you wanna be a dirtbag, go do it on your own. I won't enable you, or make excuses for you.

Live, and let live.

I think that people who have disagreements with the content of Fox are usually the problem themselves.
In your own post you say your parents "rail against a raise in minimum wage, Medicare for all..."
IMHO, there's nothing wrong with being against raising the minimum wage nor being against Medicare for all. Elementary economics tells us that someone should earn what they're worth. Not an arbitrarily decided figure. The laws of economics apply just as does the law of gravity. Artificially raising a minimum wage doesn't mean that the employees being affected are worth the new minimum wage, merely because the government decreed it. More often than not it means they'll be terminated because the business owner can't afford it.
As an aside, AOC recently visited the old coffee shop where she had worked before being elected to Congress. The place was closing and she wanted to say one last goodbye to her former fellow workers. It was forced to close because the owners couldn't afford the new minimum wage - which AOC had strongly supported. Merely another example of the laws of economics visibly demonstrated.
Ditto for Medicare for all. Medicare for all isn't a right. Rights as defined in the constitution don't take from others. My right to speak freely doesn't diminish anyone else's right. Same with all other constitutional rights. Medicare for all is a lefty talking point that should be soundly defeated.

From this mornings Guardian Luke O’Neil

The following 8 pieces are from an article describing what is being called FOX news brain, and the damage it is doing to American families. Read this and don’t make your family one of the victims.

I love my mother. She is one of the kindest and sweetest people you will ever meet and I would be nothing without her. I’ve never heard her say a bad word about anyone, never mind anything overtly terrible, like the type of thing, for example, you might hear from Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity. But I do know, much to my dismay, that she has watched them on TV a lot over the years. As such, my mom and I have agreed to not talk about politics anymore. The cognitive dissonance between this lovely woman finding something appealing in the most xenophobic pundits on TV is too hard for me to reconcile. I don’t want to think about it.

It turns out there are a lot of families across the country who have a similar arrangement, or worse, in which people have stopped talking altogether to relatives they feel have been stolen from them by Fox News.


To be clear, Fox News didn’t invent the w***e s*******y and r****m at the heart of America, but the channel has definitely supercharged it. It’s also important to point out that “My parents watched the bad TV and got r****t off it” is clearly a much less serious problem than being someone whose life is put at risk by the type of stuff Fox News promotes. That doesn’t make seeing someone you care about slide into the myopic bubble of right wing propaganda any easier.


I mentioned the idea of losing family to Fox News brain on Twitter the other day, and unsurprisingly, a lot of people had their own similar stories. I asked some of them to share how it felt.

Here’s a collection of the stories people shared.

From this mornings Guardian Luke O’Neil

The following 8 pieces are from an article describing what is being called FOX news brain, and the damage it is doing to American families. Read this and don’t make your family one of the victims.

I love my mother. She is one of the kindest and sweetest people you will ever meet and I would be nothing without her. I’ve never heard her say a bad word about anyone, never mind anything overtly terrible, like the type of thing, for example, you might hear from Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity. But I do know, much to my dismay, that she has watched them on TV a lot over the years. As such, my mom and I have agreed to not talk about politics anymore. The cognitive dissonance between this lovely woman finding something appealing in the most xenophobic pundits on TV is too hard for me to reconcile. I don’t want to think about it.

It turns out there are a lot of families across the country who have a similar arrangement, or worse, in which people have stopped talking altogether to relatives they feel have been stolen from them by Fox News.


To be clear, Fox News didn’t invent the w***e s*******y and r****m at the heart of America, but the channel has definitely supercharged it. It’s also important to point out that “My parents watched the bad TV and got r****t off it” is clearly a much less serious problem than being someone whose life is put at risk by the type of stuff Fox News promotes. That doesn’t make seeing someone you care about slide into the myopic bubble of right wing propaganda any easier.


I mentioned the idea of losing family to Fox News brain on Twitter the other day, and unsurprisingly, a lot of people had their own similar stories. I asked some of them to share how it felt.

Here’s a collection of the stories people shared.

I was raised by a strong pro-choice feminist mother, who now tells me “cute stories” that happen on The Five (the Fox daytime show), loves Trump, and thinks a******n should be illegal after six weeks.

I grew up in a house where we openly talked politics. Now, it’s noticeably absent from our conversations. She actually said that she hopes my daughter, who is four, grows up to be conservative. When I said “absolutely not”, she seemed truly baffled.

I will say that whenever she spends time with my minority friends she seems to temporarily soften on the r****t stuff, then she goes back to Texas and watches a few hours of Fox and it’s back to “normal”

I pretty much don’t go home anymore – twice in the last three years, only at Christmas – because my family and friends all have broken Fox Brain. I called at Thanksgiving to say hi, which was when my dad called Obama the n-word during the call, apropos of nothing.

I’m not totally sure when it started since I haven’t lived at home since 2002. It slowly built, but the rift probably started around 2008, when I was volunteering for Obama. It got the most heated when my mom went to a Trump rally in Phoenix ahead of the 2016 e******n.

We’ve pretty much agreed not to talk politics anymore, but occasionally my mom tells me things like “Brett Kavanaugh is innocent because women always lie about getting raped.” Eventually, I just stopped calling and answering texts.

I can’t necessarily say it all stems from Fox News, but it’s on in the house pretty much 24/7 and I can’t imagine that doesn’t play a factor. But I probably had MSNBC brain while I was there, as I had it on eight hours a day at work and then watched Maddow and Hayes when I got home.