Rose42

It seems you can interpret the bible to conform to what you'd like it to say. In a sense he is right because everyone will face God no matter what they do. Where people end up is another matter entirely. This is a growing trend among professed Christians.


One of my personal mantras is “One God. Many paths.”

I’ve been surprised by the number of fellow Christians who not only disagree with me, but who are offended that a Christian (let alone a minister) might “legitimize” other religions.

I recently had this very discussion with a conservative Christian friend at our neighborhood bar. Yep, you read that correctly, conservative Christian at a bar.

His response to the idea that God may love and include people from other religions? “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to God, but by me.”

It’s a frequently quoted scripture in discussions like this. Not infrequently, it is also accompanied by a look similar to one you might see on the face of a person who just victoriously squashed a spider.

I’m often stymied by this response. Not so much because it is a 2×4 across the forehead of Christian inclusivity, but because it is an interpretation of John 14:6 which requires such a compartmentalized, untextualized understanding of the verse that I hardly know where to begin in responding.

If I’m in a hurry, I sometimes take their own inclination for an “it says it right there” style of biblical interpretation and quote John 10:16 to them, “I have other sheep that do not belong to this fold.” Not infrequently, I also accompany it with a mirrored victorious look on my face similar to one you might see on the face of a person who just victoriously squashed a spider. If I am extremely fortunate, on that note, I can also victoriously rotate on my heel and walk away.

That’s actually how I handle it on a bad day.

On a good day, I’m more apt to take a little time and invite them into some thoughtful reflection on the text.

Here’s the thing: it turns out some Christians think that thoughtful reflection is hazardous to their faith – or maybe they simply believe thoughtful reflection is the opposite of faith?

My point here is this: if you choose route of thoughtful engagement, I might suggest some small degree of fear and trepidation in doing so – or, at least, informed caution.

One of the things I mention to them about the “I am the way” quote is that this particular statement from Jesus is meant for a specific person, in response to a specific question, within a specific setting in the Bible.

I then give that a minute to sink in. If the person no longer has the “I squashed a spider!” look on their face, I continue.

Jesus was talking to Thomas. On a somewhat related note, this is the poor guy who is frequently called “doubting” simply for doing the most reasonable thing when a dead person says they are not dead. He asked for proof. Basically, he was investigating. I actually prefer to call him “Inquisitive Thomas.” Which brings us back to thoughtfully investigating the text.

Jesus was talking to Thomas who, in an act of thoughtful investigation, had asked the question, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?”

Shame on you Doubting Thomas! How dare you question Jesus! You faithless little… wait. Actually, good question. Yeah Jesus, how do we know the way?

Those who were there listening were Jesus followers, people of “The Way.” At some point, they became known as Christians. For Inquisitive Thomas and for all Christians, Jesus was saying, “Don’t worry. Everything is going to be alright. For you, I am the way. So, when I’m gone just do the things I’ve been doing and teaching you.”

It is simply impossible for me to read the rest of Jesus’ teachings about love and inclusiveness, and then read John 14:6 and conclude it is about excluding folks.

It just doesn’t fit.

I can’t hear the guy who picked someone outside the faith, a hated Samaritan, to show us what caring for our neighbor looks like saying, “Samaritans and anyone else who don’t worship me can’t know God.”

It just doesn’t add up.

A few verses prior to this, Jesus tells us that there are many, many rooms in God’s house. Taken within the larger teachings of Jesus, it sounds like there is literally room for everyone.

One God. Many rooms. Many paths.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thegodarticle/2015/10/how-to-respond-to-other-christians-who-quote-i-am-the-way/

rumitoid

Speaking of the "hated Samaritan," you have unshakable biblical support for your belief in that story: "Behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested him, saying, 'Teacher, what shall I do to INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?'

"He said to him, 'What is written in the law? How do you read it?'

"He answered, 'You shall love the Lord YOUR God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself.'

"He said to him, 'You have answered correctly. Do this, AND YOU WILL LIVE.'

I have more on this topic in agreement with you but no time now.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Humans are adept at rationalizing and justifying whatever behaviors they choose to engage in, using the Bible, the Constitution, or a combination of the two.

We choose what we want do FIRST.................then search the scriptures for corroboration. That's what I call "directed research", where you know the answer before you even begin looking for answers.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

An interesting take...

I'm glad you are putting thought into this topic and researching the various arguments...

Also somewhat surprised... That reflects poorly on me... I apologize...

Hope you are well today...

Your friend, Kyle

Rose42

I only posted this as a heads up on how some try to change the meaning of verses to suit themselves. I'm well aware of various arguments people - and some pastors - use to try and justify various unbiblical beliefs. I read them often.

I am well thanks. Hope you are too.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Actually my cold is back...
All stuffed up again... Throat raw...
Not happy...
Have along afternoon... Classes from 2-8...
Gonna make some ginger tea and maybe go to the sauna...

May I ask what interpretations in the above article you take exception to?

He certainly comes across as a smarmy feller, don't he?

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

That Is How A Self-Absorbed Fraud Does Things
God Knows Our Hearts
He Knows A Fraud When It's There

How About Us Sinners That Know We Are Sinners
That Read Scripture
To Teach Us How To Un-Sin

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Un-sin...

I like that...

Going to steal it....

Hope you are well... And enjoying the Easter season...

Rose42

This guy is way off.

In John 14:6 Christ is answering Thomas’s question ‘how can we know the way?’. He’s not saying ‘I’m the way for you Thomas’. The meaning is unmistakeable.

John 10:16 refers to Gentiles who will respond to his voice and be part of the church. He didn’t die for the Jews only but for all.

Christianity is inclusive in the sense that the truth is for everyone and we can all be saved. But it is exclusive in that its truth can’t be reconciled with any other belief system.

“And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12

This guy’s message is not biblical.

rumitoid

What also gave it away, Rose, was using "other sheep" as an argument against needing Jesus as lord and savior. He was speaking to ethnic Jews; the other sheep are not other paths but Christians. A little disappointed that you did not see my parody in your "support" of many paths.

Rose42

I can be a little slow. What else can I say.