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Apr 6, 2019 00:17:27   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
My wife and I had a bit of a discussion (argument) over taxpayer money being used to aid refugees...

She believes that I am a hypocrite because, while I am vehemently against governments using taxpayer dollars to support non-citizens, I also freely donate to a couple of charities...

She doesn't see the difference between voluntarily providing money I believe I can spare to organizations that I believe provide useful help to individuals in need and the government using taxes to support individuals that I believe are not deserving of aid...

What say my fellow members of the OPP?

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Apr 6, 2019 00:59:03   #
JW
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
My wife and I had a bit of a discussion (argument) over taxpayer money being used to aid refugees...

She believes that I am a hypocrite because, while I am vehemently against governments using taxpayer dollars to support non-citizens, I also freely donate to a couple of charities...

She doesn't see the difference between voluntarily providing money I believe I can spare to organizations that I believe provide useful help to individuals in need and the government using taxes to support individuals that I believe are not deserving of aid...

What say my fellow members of the OPP?
My wife and I had a bit of a discussion (argument)... (show quote)


I am more or less with you on this one with one question, how do you determine who deserves help and who does not?

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Apr 6, 2019 01:18:17   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
My wife and I had a bit of a discussion (argument) over taxpayer money being used to aid refugees...

She believes that I am a hypocrite because, while I am vehemently against governments using taxpayer dollars to support non-citizens, I also freely donate to a couple of charities...

She doesn't see the difference between voluntarily providing money I believe I can spare to organizations that I believe provide useful help to individuals in need and the government using taxes to support individuals that I believe are not deserving of aid...

What say my fellow members of the OPP?
My wife and I had a bit of a discussion (argument)... (show quote)


In the distant past I have given to charities and churches.

Then it donned on me that every time I gave money to a church or a charity, there was someone I personally knew that could have made good use of that money in a way that would have proven beneficial.

So I just began paying closer attention to friends, family members and co workers and when a situation arises and I can assist, I do what is within my means to do.

As for tax dollars to refugees ?

I'm sure everyone knows my thoughts on that subject.

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Apr 6, 2019 02:51:15   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JW wrote:
I am more or less with you on this one with one question, how do you determine who deserves help and who does not?


Personal judgement...

I donate to educational charities...

Also a scholarship fund at the university where I work...

Sometimes to the Christian or Muslim student union if the cause is one I support... Individual members throughout China in need of aid...

Gave a chunk of change to an old classmate of my wife's a couple years ago... His kid was diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia... Poor fellow... But the kid is doing well now... Quite a few of us chipped in on that one...

Each of us needs to determine what we are willing to support...

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Apr 6, 2019 02:55:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
In the distant past I have given to charities and churches.

Then it donned on me that every time I gave money to a church or a charity, there was someone I personally knew that could have made good use of that money in a way that would have proven beneficial.

So I just began paying closer attention to friends, family members and co workers and when a situation arises and I can assist, I do what is within my means to do.

As for tax dollars to refugees ?

I'm sure everyone knows my thoughts on that subject.
In the distant past I have given to charities and ... (show quote)


That sounds quite right...

Community first... If we all spent more time looking out for one another there would be fewer in need...

Course it depends on the community... Guessing not too many slackers in yours...

Churches can make a difference... But I am wary of donating to them... Read too much about unscrupulous individuals misusing funds...

Cheers to decent people building decent communities...

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Apr 7, 2019 10:44:50   #
bahmer
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
In the distant past I have given to charities and churches.

Then it donned on me that every time I gave money to a church or a charity, there was someone I personally knew that could have made good use of that money in a way that would have proven beneficial.

So I just began paying closer attention to friends, family members and co workers and when a situation arises and I can assist, I do what is within my means to do.

As for tax dollars to refugees ?

I'm sure everyone knows my thoughts on that subject.
In the distant past I have given to charities and ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen and they are the same thoughts that most conservatives have and that is send the refugees home.

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Apr 7, 2019 11:46:51   #
TrueAmerican
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
My wife and I had a bit of a discussion (argument) over taxpayer money being used to aid refugees...

She believes that I am a hypocrite because, while I am vehemently against governments using taxpayer dollars to support non-citizens, I also freely donate to a couple of charities...

She doesn't see the difference between voluntarily providing money I believe I can spare to organizations that I believe provide useful help to individuals in need and the government using taxes to support individuals that I believe are not deserving of aid...

What say my fellow members of the OPP?
My wife and I had a bit of a discussion (argument)... (show quote)



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Apr 7, 2019 13:28:24   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
My wife and I had a bit of a discussion (argument) over taxpayer money being used to aid refugees...

She believes that I am a hypocrite because, while I am vehemently against governments using taxpayer dollars to support non-citizens, I also freely donate to a couple of charities...

She doesn't see the difference between voluntarily providing money I believe I can spare to organizations that I believe provide useful help to individuals in need and the government using taxes to support individuals that I believe are not deserving of aid...

What say my fellow members of the OPP?
My wife and I had a bit of a discussion (argument)... (show quote)

sadly Canuck
all my donations are now to greedy(needy?) grand and great grand kids

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Apr 7, 2019 19:22:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
badbobby wrote:
sadly Canuck
all my donations are now to greedy(needy?) grand and great grand kids


Worst charrity there is....

Hope they do chores and keep up their grades

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Apr 7, 2019 19:34:22   #
Morgan
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Worst charrity there is....

Hope they do chores and keep up their grades



Hello Kyle hope you're doing well and good question.

That sounds nice until it is not enough and people would be starving over some form of disaster, then what? Not to mention that with giving you will find the same people giving while others never do and usually that is not based on income but rather peoples empathy.

The hard reality question is, do you think all the people who went through hurricanes, flooding and fires, losing homes and all their belongs that it would be enough and that they would be OK if we depended solely on donations?

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Apr 7, 2019 20:03:05   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Morgan wrote:
Hello Kyle hope you're doing well and good question.

That sounds nice until it is not enough and people would be starving over some form of disaster, then what? Not to mention that with giving you will find the same people giving while others never do and usually that is not based on income but rather peoples empathy.

The hard reality question is, do you think all the people who went through hurricanes, flooding and fires, losing homes and all their belongs that it would be enough and that they would be OK if we depended solely on donations?
Hello Kyle hope you're doing well and good questio... (show quote)


Hi Morgan...

Hope you are well..

I was refering more to welfare and refugee funds...And money sent to other countries as aid...

Disaster relief is fine...

Sorry... Will write a longer reply later...

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