James Comey: What I Want From the Mueller Report: This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterday’s New York Times. Take a minute to read it and see if there is much of anything...

Kevyn

This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterday’s New York Times. Take a minute to read it and see if there is much of anything you can honestly disagree with.

I am rooting for a demonstration to the world that the United States justice system works.
The country is eagerly awaiting the special counsel Robert Mueller’s report. Many people know what they want it to say — what they feel it simply must say — namely, that Donald Trump is a criminal who should be removed from office. Or that he is completely innocent of all wrongdoing.
But not everyone knows what it “must” say. Even though I believe Mr. Trump is morally unfit to be president of the United States, I’m not rooting for Mr. Mueller to demonstrate that he is a criminal. I’m also not rooting for Mr. Mueller to “clear” the president. I’m not rooting for anything at all, except that the special counsel be permitted to finish his work, charge wh**ever cases warrant charging and report on his work.
President Trump’s constant attacks on the special counsel, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Justice Department over the past two years raised the prospect that he would interfere to stop the special counsel’s work. It is deeply concerning that the president of the United States would try to protect himself by torching the institutions of justice. But he hasn’t used his authority to end Mr. Mueller’s work. (That would have been a crisis of a different order — shutting down the investigation, rather than just trying to undermine its credibility.) So we are in a position to wonder and hope about the report’s content.
Wondering is fine. But hoping for a particular answer is not. The rule of law depends upon fair administration of justice, which is rooted in complete and unbiased investigation. We are best served when an investigation finds all relevant facts and illuminates the fullest possible view of the t***h.
I have no idea whether the special counsel will conclude that Mr. Trump knowingly conspired with the Russians in connection with the 2016 e******n or that he obstructed justice with the required corrupt intent. I also don’t care. I care only that the work be done, well and completely. If it is, justice will have prevailed and core American values will have been protected at a time when so much of our national leadership has abandoned its commitment to t***h and the rule of law.
I am rooting for a demonstration to the world — and maybe most of all to our president and his enablers — that the United States has a justice system that works because there are people who believe in it and rise above personal interest and tribalism. That system may reach conclusions they like or it may not, but the apolitical administration of justice is the beating heart of this country. I hope we all get to see that.
The interests of justice will also be best served by maximum t***sparency about the special counsel’s work. I don’t know all the considerations that will go into deciding precisely what to say about the completion of that work and when to say it. But because the Department of Justice is guided first and always by the public interest, it should provide details about finished investigations when the public needs to know them, as it traditionally has.
I do have one hope that I should confess. I hope that Mr. Trump is not impeached and removed from office before the end of his term. I don’t mean that Congress shouldn’t move ahead with the process of impeachment governed by our Constitution, if Congress thinks the provable facts are there. I just hope it doesn’t. Because if Mr. Trump were removed from office by Congress, a significant portion of this country would see this as a c**p, and it would drive those people farther from the common center of American life, more deeply fracturing our country.
Critics of Mr. Trump should hope for something much harder to distort, or to nurse as a grievance, than an impeachment. We need a resounding e******n result in 2020, where Americans of all stripes, divided as they may be about important policy issues — immigration, guns, a******n, c*****e c****e, regulation, taxes — take a moment from their busy lives to show that they are united by something even more important: the belief that the president of the United States cannot be a chronic liar who repeatedly attacks the rule of law. Then we can get back to policy disagreements.
I just hope we are up to it.
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Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Plenty...

There is plenty that I disagree with....

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Kevyn wrote:

This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterday’s New York Times. Take a minute to read it and see if there is much of anything you can honestly disagree with.

I am rooting for a demonstration to the world that the United States justice system works.
The country is eagerly awaiting the special counsel Robert Mueller’s report. Many people know what they want it to say — what they feel it simply must say — namely, that Donald Trump is a criminal who should be removed from office. Or that he is completely innocent of all wrongdoing.
But not everyone knows what it “must” say. Even though I believe Mr. Trump is morally unfit to be president of the United States, I’m not rooting for Mr. Mueller to demonstrate that he is a criminal. I’m also not rooting for Mr. Mueller to “clear” the president. I’m not rooting for anything at all, except that the special counsel be permitted to finish his work, charge wh**ever cases warrant charging and report on his work.
President Trump’s constant attacks on the special counsel, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Justice Department over the past two years raised the prospect that he would interfere to stop the special counsel’s work. It is deeply concerning that the president of the United States would try to protect himself by torching the institutions of justice. But he hasn’t used his authority to end Mr. Mueller’s work. (That would have been a crisis of a different order — shutting down the investigation, rather than just trying to undermine its credibility.) So we are in a position to wonder and hope about the report’s content.
Wondering is fine. But hoping for a particular answer is not. The rule of law depends upon fair administration of justice, which is rooted in complete and unbiased investigation. We are best served when an investigation finds all relevant facts and illuminates the fullest possible view of the t***h.
I have no idea whether the special counsel will conclude that Mr. Trump knowingly conspired with the Russians in connection with the 2016 e******n or that he obstructed justice with the required corrupt intent. I also don’t care. I care only that the work be done, well and completely. If it is, justice will have prevailed and core American values will have been protected at a time when so much of our national leadership has abandoned its commitment to t***h and the rule of law.
I am rooting for a demonstration to the world — and maybe most of all to our president and his enablers — that the United States has a justice system that works because there are people who believe in it and rise above personal interest and tribalism. That system may reach conclusions they like or it may not, but the apolitical administration of justice is the beating heart of this country. I hope we all get to see that.
The interests of justice will also be best served by maximum t***sparency about the special counsel’s work. I don’t know all the considerations that will go into deciding precisely what to say about the completion of that work and when to say it. But because the Department of Justice is guided first and always by the public interest, it should provide details about finished investigations when the public needs to know them, as it traditionally has.
I do have one hope that I should confess. I hope that Mr. Trump is not impeached and removed from office before the end of his term. I don’t mean that Congress shouldn’t move ahead with the process of impeachment governed by our Constitution, if Congress thinks the provable facts are there. I just hope it doesn’t. Because if Mr. Trump were removed from office by Congress, a significant portion of this country would see this as a c**p, and it would drive those people farther from the common center of American life, more deeply fracturing our country.
Critics of Mr. Trump should hope for something much harder to distort, or to nurse as a grievance, than an impeachment. We need a resounding e******n result in 2020, where Americans of all stripes, divided as they may be about important policy issues — immigration, guns, a******n, c*****e c****e, regulation, taxes — take a moment from their busy lives to show that they are united by something even more important: the belief that the president of the United States cannot be a chronic liar who repeatedly attacks the rule of law. Then we can get back to policy disagreements.
I just hope we are up to it.
.

This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterd... (show quote)

I can see Mr. Comeys' writing only asks that the investigation be unhindered and facts be displayed accuratly. His assertion that impeachment could lead to people thinking it was a c**p is merely conjecture and Mr. Comeys personal thoughts. It is clear that he personally has animosity toward Trump and may have been a factor of his investigation. I do not know. In closing I do agree that justice is best served when only true and proven facts are uncovered in any investigation. Weather it is to convict or exonerate an individual is not as important as the absolute t***h.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

I can see Mr. Comeys' writing only asks that the i... (show quote)

Yep... Can't argue with that

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Kevyn wrote:

This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterday’s New York Times. Take a minute to read it and see if there is much of anything you can honestly disagree with.

I am rooting for a demonstration to the world that the United States justice system works.
The country is eagerly awaiting the special counsel Robert Mueller’s report. Many people know what they want it to say — what they feel it simply must say — namely, that Donald Trump is a criminal who should be removed from office. Or that he is completely innocent of all wrongdoing.
But not everyone knows what it “must” say. Even though I believe Mr. Trump is morally unfit to be president of the United States, I’m not rooting for Mr. Mueller to demonstrate that he is a criminal. I’m also not rooting for Mr. Mueller to “clear” the president. I’m not rooting for anything at all, except that the special counsel be permitted to finish his work, charge wh**ever cases warrant charging and report on his work.
President Trump’s constant attacks on the special counsel, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Justice Department over the past two years raised the prospect that he would interfere to stop the special counsel’s work. It is deeply concerning that the president of the United States would try to protect himself by torching the institutions of justice. But he hasn’t used his authority to end Mr. Mueller’s work. (That would have been a crisis of a different order — shutting down the investigation, rather than just trying to undermine its credibility.) So we are in a position to wonder and hope about the report’s content.
Wondering is fine. But hoping for a particular answer is not. The rule of law depends upon fair administration of justice, which is rooted in complete and unbiased investigation. We are best served when an investigation finds all relevant facts and illuminates the fullest possible view of the t***h.
I have no idea whether the special counsel will conclude that Mr. Trump knowingly conspired with the Russians in connection with the 2016 e******n or that he obstructed justice with the required corrupt intent. I also don’t care. I care only that the work be done, well and completely. If it is, justice will have prevailed and core American values will have been protected at a time when so much of our national leadership has abandoned its commitment to t***h and the rule of law.
I am rooting for a demonstration to the world — and maybe most of all to our president and his enablers — that the United States has a justice system that works because there are people who believe in it and rise above personal interest and tribalism. That system may reach conclusions they like or it may not, but the apolitical administration of justice is the beating heart of this country. I hope we all get to see that.
The interests of justice will also be best served by maximum t***sparency about the special counsel’s work. I don’t know all the considerations that will go into deciding precisely what to say about the completion of that work and when to say it. But because the Department of Justice is guided first and always by the public interest, it should provide details about finished investigations when the public needs to know them, as it traditionally has.
I do have one hope that I should confess. I hope that Mr. Trump is not impeached and removed from office before the end of his term. I don’t mean that Congress shouldn’t move ahead with the process of impeachment governed by our Constitution, if Congress thinks the provable facts are there. I just hope it doesn’t. Because if Mr. Trump were removed from office by Congress, a significant portion of this country would see this as a c**p, and it would drive those people farther from the common center of American life, more deeply fracturing our country.
Critics of Mr. Trump should hope for something much harder to distort, or to nurse as a grievance, than an impeachment. We need a resounding e******n result in 2020, where Americans of all stripes, divided as they may be about important policy issues — immigration, guns, a******n, c*****e c****e, regulation, taxes — take a moment from their busy lives to show that they are united by something even more important: the belief that the president of the United States cannot be a chronic liar who repeatedly attacks the rule of law. Then we can get back to policy disagreements.
I just hope we are up to it.
.

This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterd... (show quote)

Comey is being disingenuous for obvious reasons.

Liberty Tree

Kevyn wrote:

This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterday’s New York Times. Take a minute to read it and see if there is much of anything you can honestly disagree with.

I am rooting for a demonstration to the world that the United States justice system works.
The country is eagerly awaiting the special counsel Robert Mueller’s report. Many people know what they want it to say — what they feel it simply must say — namely, that Donald Trump is a criminal who should be removed from office. Or that he is completely innocent of all wrongdoing.
But not everyone knows what it “must” say. Even though I believe Mr. Trump is morally unfit to be president of the United States, I’m not rooting for Mr. Mueller to demonstrate that he is a criminal. I’m also not rooting for Mr. Mueller to “clear” the president. I’m not rooting for anything at all, except that the special counsel be permitted to finish his work, charge wh**ever cases warrant charging and report on his work.
President Trump’s constant attacks on the special counsel, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Justice Department over the past two years raised the prospect that he would interfere to stop the special counsel’s work. It is deeply concerning that the president of the United States would try to protect himself by torching the institutions of justice. But he hasn’t used his authority to end Mr. Mueller’s work. (That would have been a crisis of a different order — shutting down the investigation, rather than just trying to undermine its credibility.) So we are in a position to wonder and hope about the report’s content.
Wondering is fine. But hoping for a particular answer is not. The rule of law depends upon fair administration of justice, which is rooted in complete and unbiased investigation. We are best served when an investigation finds all relevant facts and illuminates the fullest possible view of the t***h.
I have no idea whether the special counsel will conclude that Mr. Trump knowingly conspired with the Russians in connection with the 2016 e******n or that he obstructed justice with the required corrupt intent. I also don’t care. I care only that the work be done, well and completely. If it is, justice will have prevailed and core American values will have been protected at a time when so much of our national leadership has abandoned its commitment to t***h and the rule of law.
I am rooting for a demonstration to the world — and maybe most of all to our president and his enablers — that the United States has a justice system that works because there are people who believe in it and rise above personal interest and tribalism. That system may reach conclusions they like or it may not, but the apolitical administration of justice is the beating heart of this country. I hope we all get to see that.
The interests of justice will also be best served by maximum t***sparency about the special counsel’s work. I don’t know all the considerations that will go into deciding precisely what to say about the completion of that work and when to say it. But because the Department of Justice is guided first and always by the public interest, it should provide details about finished investigations when the public needs to know them, as it traditionally has.
I do have one hope that I should confess. I hope that Mr. Trump is not impeached and removed from office before the end of his term. I don’t mean that Congress shouldn’t move ahead with the process of impeachment governed by our Constitution, if Congress thinks the provable facts are there. I just hope it doesn’t. Because if Mr. Trump were removed from office by Congress, a significant portion of this country would see this as a c**p, and it would drive those people farther from the common center of American life, more deeply fracturing our country.
Critics of Mr. Trump should hope for something much harder to distort, or to nurse as a grievance, than an impeachment. We need a resounding e******n result in 2020, where Americans of all stripes, divided as they may be about important policy issues — immigration, guns, a******n, c*****e c****e, regulation, taxes — take a moment from their busy lives to show that they are united by something even more important: the belief that the president of the United States cannot be a chronic liar who repeatedly attacks the rule of law. Then we can get back to policy disagreements.
I just hope we are up to it.
.

This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterd... (show quote)

The t***h is that liberals and Democrats like you don't want t***h. You will be satisfied with nothing less than Trump be branded a criminal and driven from office. The rest of us are waiting to see what the report presents before making a decision.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Liberty Tree wrote:

The t***h is that liberals and Democrats like you don't want t***h. You will be satisfied with nothing less than Trump be branded a criminal and driven from office. The rest of us are waiting to see what the report presents before making a decision.

I can say that conservatives will not believe the t***h also. As a Democrat I am waiting for the t***h and nothing but the t***h so I respectfully resent your remark.

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

Liberty Tree wrote:

The t***h is that liberals and Democrats like you don't want t***h. You will be satisfied with nothing less than Trump be branded a criminal and driven from office. The rest of us are waiting to see what the report presents before making a decision.

I lean Democrat I don't want Trump tossed from office however I do want all of the report to come out so the American v**ers can decide in Nov. of 2020

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

With all we heard and witnessed do any of you believe the t***h will be told??
Really??

The t***h would lead back to the previous administration all the way into this admin and the domino effect of high ranking all the way down would leave half of DC headed to jail in both supposed parties...
There’s your t***h..

Liberty Tree

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

I can say that conservatives will not believe the t***h also. As a Democrat I am waiting for the t***h and nothing but the t***h so I respectfully resent your remark.

We will see how much you Democrats respect t***h if the report does not condemn Trump. You will then tear Mueller and his report to shreds.

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

lindajoy wrote:

With all we heard and witnessed do any of you believe the t***h will be told??
Really??

The t***h would lead back to the previous administration all the way into this admin and the domino effect of high ranking all the way down would leave half of DC headed to jail in both supposed parties...
There’s your t***h..

agreed lol

Kevyn

Liberty Tree wrote:

We will see how much you Democrats respect t***h if the report does not condemn Trump. You will then tear Mueller and his report to shreds.

Even in the event the Mueller report doesn’t contain proof beyond doubt that the Pumpkinfuhrer was in bed with Putin it has unearthed a multitude of crimes including the likelihood that Trump committed bank fraud when applying for loans at Deutsche Bank. The bank is fighting record requests tooth and nail and the Supreme Court is holding a rare closed door hearing today to decide if an order by a federal court forcing the record release will stand. Trump is obviously dirty as are his adult kids and they will soon pay the piper.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Kevyn wrote:

This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterday’s New York Times. Take a minute to read it and see if there is much of anything you can honestly disagree with.

I am rooting for a demonstration to the world that the United States justice system works.
The country is eagerly awaiting the special counsel Robert Mueller’s report. Many people know what they want it to say — what they feel it simply must say — namely, that Donald Trump is a criminal who should be removed from office. Or that he is completely innocent of all wrongdoing.
But not everyone knows what it “must” say. Even though I believe Mr. Trump is morally unfit to be president of the United States, I’m not rooting for Mr. Mueller to demonstrate that he is a criminal. I’m also not rooting for Mr. Mueller to “clear” the president. I’m not rooting for anything at all, except that the special counsel be permitted to finish his work, charge wh**ever cases warrant charging and report on his work.
President Trump’s constant attacks on the special counsel, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Justice Department over the past two years raised the prospect that he would interfere to stop the special counsel’s work. It is deeply concerning that the president of the United States would try to protect himself by torching the institutions of justice. But he hasn’t used his authority to end Mr. Mueller’s work. (That would have been a crisis of a different order — shutting down the investigation, rather than just trying to undermine its credibility.) So we are in a position to wonder and hope about the report’s content.
Wondering is fine. But hoping for a particular answer is not. The rule of law depends upon fair administration of justice, which is rooted in complete and unbiased investigation. We are best served when an investigation finds all relevant facts and illuminates the fullest possible view of the t***h.
I have no idea whether the special counsel will conclude that Mr. Trump knowingly conspired with the Russians in connection with the 2016 e******n or that he obstructed justice with the required corrupt intent. I also don’t care. I care only that the work be done, well and completely. If it is, justice will have prevailed and core American values will have been protected at a time when so much of our national leadership has abandoned its commitment to t***h and the rule of law.
I am rooting for a demonstration to the world — and maybe most of all to our president and his enablers — that the United States has a justice system that works because there are people who believe in it and rise above personal interest and tribalism. That system may reach conclusions they like or it may not, but the apolitical administration of justice is the beating heart of this country. I hope we all get to see that.
The interests of justice will also be best served by maximum t***sparency about the special counsel’s work. I don’t know all the considerations that will go into deciding precisely what to say about the completion of that work and when to say it. But because the Department of Justice is guided first and always by the public interest, it should provide details about finished investigations when the public needs to know them, as it traditionally has.
I do have one hope that I should confess. I hope that Mr. Trump is not impeached and removed from office before the end of his term. I don’t mean that Congress shouldn’t move ahead with the process of impeachment governed by our Constitution, if Congress thinks the provable facts are there. I just hope it doesn’t. Because if Mr. Trump were removed from office by Congress, a significant portion of this country would see this as a c**p, and it would drive those people farther from the common center of American life, more deeply fracturing our country.
Critics of Mr. Trump should hope for something much harder to distort, or to nurse as a grievance, than an impeachment. We need a resounding e******n result in 2020, where Americans of all stripes, divided as they may be about important policy issues — immigration, guns, a******n, c*****e c****e, regulation, taxes — take a moment from their busy lives to show that they are united by something even more important: the belief that the president of the United States cannot be a chronic liar who repeatedly attacks the rule of law. Then we can get back to policy disagreements.
I just hope we are up to it.
.

This is an editorial James Comey wrote for yesterd... (show quote)

What a crock! This guy conspired with top FBI officials to get Hillary Clinton elected and cont after she lost to bring down an acting president. Comey is an utter disgrace; there is not one bit of anything coming out of his mouth that can be believed. He is as reliable a 'witness" as Cohen.

He hopes to demonstrate to the world that our justice system works. What a laugh. Convicting Comey of treason, fraud, lying to Congress, politicizing the FBI, obstructing the investigation into Hillary Clinton's crimes, etc, etc would demonstrate justice.

It is, literally, insulting that this would be posted on this forum with a claim that one shouldn't disagree with what Comey is blathering about.

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

Kevyn wrote:

Even in the event the Mueller report doesn’t conta... (show quote)

nothing will happen to Trump unless it goes though New York After he leaves office either in 2021 or 2025 the next POTUS will pardon him saying that for the good ogf the country we should put it behind us

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

jimpack123 wrote:

agreed lol