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Mar 20, 2019 14:38:15   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Why E*******l College?.....16 yr olds given the right to v**e in "P**********l"? ? ? ? ?

1. Californication, has the highest %, of i*****l a***ns, next to NYC......{ Here, is where Hillary exceeded the v**e numbers}....{ Only American citizens, are constitutionally allowed to v**e!}....except if you are a demoncrat.

2. "LEAVE THE SUPREME COURT ALONE!"

3. Allowing 16 yr old "pubescent" "kiddies", to v**e in the P**********l e******n, is "INSANITY"!

4. I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE I***T LIBERALS, GET THE "MILLIONS OF $'S, IN DONATIONS...{BOZO O'ROURKE, "OCRAZIO CORTEZ", GILLIBRAND, CARAMEL HARRIS, SPARTACUS BOOKER, BERNIE THE SOCIALIST, & POCAHONTAS.....NOW COMES "CRAZY UNCLE JOE"?}...ARE THERE "REALLY" THAT MANY STUPID PEOPLE IN AMERICA ready to give up their hard {?}, earned money.....MUST BE "UNCLE GEORGIE PORGIE SOROS", IS DEALING OUT MONEY LIKE CANASTA CARDS???





From: John Porter
To: Americans Everywhere
March, 2019

Please, I urge you to take a couple of minutes to read this and forward it far and wide in every way you can, please!

I have been urged by many to explain the e*******l college vs. popular v**e provision of our Constitution and the reasoning behind it (U.S. Constitution Article 2, section 1, clause 3 and the 12th amendment). Closely analyzed, without bias political party thinking, it shows the brilliance of the people we call the founding fathers in establishing this type of v****g system for selecting a president. It is for that one Federal Government position only, because it is the only government job for which we hire someone with a nation wide e******n.

We must remind ourselves, that when these men met to draft our constitution, there was no Federal Government, only states with their individual laws. Writing a Constitution was part of the process of forming the Federal government. It was done in order to, by Constitutional law, set the powers the states were willing to allow the Federal Government to have and the ones they would retain, and protect the rights of the people which could not be infringed upon by either.

The original proposal was to have the two branches of Congress together elect the president. However, it was not adopted because that would be conceding power to the Federal Government to elect the president. It being the only elected position in the Federal Government representing all Americans, the states rightfully and successfully argued that they would have no voice in electing the president, and initiated the process at the state and local levels by choosing e*****rs from each state to v**e for president. Well known leading citizenswere chosen, originally by state legislatures, now by the v**ers for the special purpose of selecting the president. The e*****rs would assemble and cast the v**es allotted to that state. The number of v**es allotted were the state's number of Representatives and Senators combined. Their model for this was the very structure of the Constitutional Convention itself, where each state had a number of delegates representing that state.

Even though it does not function exactly as the Founders originally intended, the E*******l College remains today an essential Constitutional safeguard of not only American Individual Liberty, but of the liberty of the states from the Federal Government. As stated, each state is allotted as many e*******l v**es as it has senators and members of the House of Representatives. To become president of the United States of America, a person must, even today, win the national e******n state by state. We speak of "the p**********l e******n" when, including Washington D. C., there are actually 51 separate e******ns for president. The United States is a nation of 50 separate and sovereign states. The e*******l college gives your state a voice in electing the president.

There is much talk to eliminate the e*******l college and elect the president by popular v**e. One group is headed up by Eric Holder with the financial support of other Liberal Progressives, many running for president in 2020, and they are determined to do it. If successful, it would completely t***sform the office. The person elected to it would in effect become the president of the big cities of America, and the last trace of independent self government guaranteed the individual states by the Constitution's e*******l college system would be lost forever. We must preserve and protect the E*******l College at any cost.

I here give you an example of what could, and would in fact have happened on November 8, 2016 if we had a national popular e******n instead of the E*******l College. This, I hope, will help one understand the true wisdom of the writers of our constitution. These numbers are from the official v**e count records tabulated from every v****g precinct in America.

The total popular v**e count shows Donald T***p w*n the popular v**e in 30 states and Hillary Clinton won the popular v**e in 20 states plus D.C.. The total count for all states, Trump was 62,979,879------Clinton was 65,844,954. the difference is Clinton winning by 2,865,075. However, totaling all states excluding California, Donald T***p w*n the popular v**e. In California the v**e count was Clinton...8,753,788----Trump...4,483,810. Now, let's deduct Clinton's California v**e from her national v**e..65,844,954 - 8,753,788 = 57,091,166. Now let's deduct Trump's California v**e from his national v**e..62,979,879 - 4,483,810 = 58,496,069. The difference is Trump winning by 1,404,903.

So, in effect, Hillary Clinton was elected president of California and Donald Trump was elected president of the rest of the country by a substantial margin. This is the finest example I can relate to you of the wisdom of the E*******l College system of electing the American President. It prevents the v**e of any one densely populated state from overriding the v**e of all the others. Ask yourself, "Do I really want California, or any other state, electing the president for the rest of us?" Without the E*******l College that is exactly what will happen.

Thank you until next time.
John Porter
118 Approach Drive
Harrison, Arkansas 72601
870-741-4119

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Mar 20, 2019 14:50:31   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
I was talking to one of my professors at Hillsdale U. He asked me what I thought was the most important issue during the 2016 e******n. My first thought was why did he ask me, but I answered 'economics.' It has been in almost every e******n, all that weren't defrauded. Where are they getting $$$$? Mostly you're right, Soros and sons. However, who have we seen backing Biden?

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Mar 20, 2019 15:05:58   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Why E*******l College?.....16 yr olds given the right to v**e in "P**********l"? ? ? ? ?

1. Californication, has the highest %, of i*****l a***ns, next to NYC......{ Here, is where Hillary exceeded the v**e numbers}....{ Only American citizens, are constitutionally allowed to v**e!}....except if you are a demoncrat.

2. "LEAVE THE SUPREME COURT ALONE!"

3. Allowing 16 yr old "pubescent" "kiddies", to v**e in the P**********l e******n, is "INSANITY"!

4. I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE I***T LIBERALS, GET THE "MILLIONS OF $'S, IN DONATIONS...{BOZO O'ROURKE, "OCRAZIO CORTEZ", GILLIBRAND, CARAMEL HARRIS, SPARTACUS BOOKER, BERNIE THE SOCIALIST, & POCAHONTAS.....NOW COMES "CRAZY UNCLE JOE"?}...ARE THERE "REALLY" THAT MANY STUPID PEOPLE IN AMERICA ready to give up their hard {?}, earned money.....MUST BE "UNCLE GEORGIE PORGIE SOROS", IS DEALING OUT MONEY LIKE CANASTA CARDS???





From: John Porter
To: Americans Everywhere
March, 2019

Please, I urge you to take a couple of minutes to read this and forward it far and wide in every way you can, please!

I have been urged by many to explain the e*******l college vs. popular v**e provision of our Constitution and the reasoning behind it (U.S. Constitution Article 2, section 1, clause 3 and the 12th amendment). Closely analyzed, without bias political party thinking, it shows the brilliance of the people we call the founding fathers in establishing this type of v****g system for selecting a president. It is for that one Federal Government position only, because it is the only government job for which we hire someone with a nation wide e******n.

We must remind ourselves, that when these men met to draft our constitution, there was no Federal Government, only states with their individual laws. Writing a Constitution was part of the process of forming the Federal government. It was done in order to, by Constitutional law, set the powers the states were willing to allow the Federal Government to have and the ones they would retain, and protect the rights of the people which could not be infringed upon by either.

The original proposal was to have the two branches of Congress together elect the president. However, it was not adopted because that would be conceding power to the Federal Government to elect the president. It being the only elected position in the Federal Government representing all Americans, the states rightfully and successfully argued that they would have no voice in electing the president, and initiated the process at the state and local levels by choosing e*****rs from each state to v**e for president. Well known leading citizenswere chosen, originally by state legislatures, now by the v**ers for the special purpose of selecting the president. The e*****rs would assemble and cast the v**es allotted to that state. The number of v**es allotted were the state's number of Representatives and Senators combined. Their model for this was the very structure of the Constitutional Convention itself, where each state had a number of delegates representing that state.

Even though it does not function exactly as the Founders originally intended, the E*******l College remains today an essential Constitutional safeguard of not only American Individual Liberty, but of the liberty of the states from the Federal Government. As stated, each state is allotted as many e*******l v**es as it has senators and members of the House of Representatives. To become president of the United States of America, a person must, even today, win the national e******n state by state. We speak of "the p**********l e******n" when, including Washington D. C., there are actually 51 separate e******ns for president. The United States is a nation of 50 separate and sovereign states. The e*******l college gives your state a voice in electing the president.

There is much talk to eliminate the e*******l college and elect the president by popular v**e. One group is headed up by Eric Holder with the financial support of other Liberal Progressives, many running for president in 2020, and they are determined to do it. If successful, it would completely t***sform the office. The person elected to it would in effect become the president of the big cities of America, and the last trace of independent self government guaranteed the individual states by the Constitution's e*******l college system would be lost forever. We must preserve and protect the E*******l College at any cost.

I here give you an example of what could, and would in fact have happened on November 8, 2016 if we had a national popular e******n instead of the E*******l College. This, I hope, will help one understand the true wisdom of the writers of our constitution. These numbers are from the official v**e count records tabulated from every v****g precinct in America.

The total popular v**e count shows Donald T***p w*n the popular v**e in 30 states and Hillary Clinton won the popular v**e in 20 states plus D.C.. The total count for all states, Trump was 62,979,879------Clinton was 65,844,954. the difference is Clinton winning by 2,865,075. However, totaling all states excluding California, Donald T***p w*n the popular v**e. In California the v**e count was Clinton...8,753,788----Trump...4,483,810. Now, let's deduct Clinton's California v**e from her national v**e..65,844,954 - 8,753,788 = 57,091,166. Now let's deduct Trump's California v**e from his national v**e..62,979,879 - 4,483,810 = 58,496,069. The difference is Trump winning by 1,404,903.

So, in effect, Hillary Clinton was elected president of California and Donald Trump was elected president of the rest of the country by a substantial margin. This is the finest example I can relate to you of the wisdom of the E*******l College system of electing the American President. It prevents the v**e of any one densely populated state from overriding the v**e of all the others. Ask yourself, "Do I really want California, or any other state, electing the president for the rest of us?" Without the E*******l College that is exactly what will happen.

Thank you until next time.
John Porter
118 Approach Drive
Harrison, Arkansas 72601
870-741-4119
Why E*******l College?.....16 yr olds given the ri... (show quote)


Tomi Lahren explained the Progressive reasoning and tactics well. She said if the Progressives can't win using the rules, "change the rules." I don't anticipate being around to see it, but if it comes to war, a real shoot-em up civil war then implement all your lusted for changes. The one thing that should be crystal clear to all progressives is something all conservatives well know. Progressives care only about unrestricted power and a Marxist agenda. (I know they cringe being called Marxist because often the T***h hurts like blazes.)

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Mar 21, 2019 12:04:15   #
Curmudgeon
 
A very nice explanation of how the e*******l college came to be, but the rest of it is bulls**t. All that nonsense about how California would elect Clinton and the rest of America Trump is just more of Trump's big lie. The fact is, the standard for this entire country is one man-one v**e, not one acre- one v**e or one cow one v**e. The fact is that 3 million more Americans v**ed for Clinton than did for Trump. The fact is, Clinton should be president or our v**es mean nothing.

Regardless of why the e*******l college was established over two hundred years ago, the reality is that the only reason to keep it is to allow the GOP to elect the President and to give power to rural states where cows outnumber people. Yes, more people live along the coasts than in the middle or the south of the country but that's because they are better places to live and work for a larger number of people. There's a reason why only 30 people live in North Dakota.

We have already given our nod to States Rights in the Senate where Idaho has, lubriciously, the same number of Senators as New York. AS the gentleman from Arkansas so enlightened points out the p**********l e******n is a national e******n so in reality it should only be based on one man one v**e and the e*******l college should go the way of the wagon tongue.

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Mar 22, 2019 00:48:12   #
GmanTerry
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
A very nice explanation of how the e*******l college came to be, but the rest of it is bulls**t. All that nonsense about how California would elect Clinton and the rest of America Trump is just more of Trump's big lie. The fact is, the standard for this entire country is one man-one v**e, not one acre- one v**e or one cow one v**e. The fact is that 3 million more Americans v**ed for Clinton than did for Trump. The fact is, Clinton should be president or our v**es mean nothing.

Regardless of why the e*******l college was established over two hundred years ago, the reality is that the only reason to keep it is to allow the GOP to elect the President and to give power to rural states where cows outnumber people. Yes, more people live along the coasts than in the middle or the south of the country but that's because they are better places to live and work for a larger number of people. There's a reason why only 30 people live in North Dakota.

We have already given our nod to States Rights in the Senate where Idaho has, lubriciously, the same number of Senators as New York. AS the gentleman from Arkansas so enlightened points out the p**********l e******n is a national e******n so in reality it should only be based on one man one v**e and the e*******l college should go the way of the wagon tongue.
A very nice explanation of how the e*******l colle... (show quote)


You, sir, obviously slept through civics. Without the E*******l College, the big cities would elect our President. The wisdom of our forefathers gave a voice to all 50 States. The reason you l*****ts want to ignore the Constitution is you want to s**m the system like Hillary did. She came up with so many "Super Duper Delegates" that she r****d the e******n so she was sure she would win. Her mistake was that people like me didn't want a criminal in the Whitehouse. We elected President Trump. If there had been popular v**e for President, President Hillary would be our leader. You lefties will do ANYTHING to subvert the Constitution including giving the v**e to pre-pubescent children, getting i******s to v**e in California, packing the Supreme Court with leftest judges and even changing the number of Senators so that large population States will have more E*****rs in the E*******l College. Do you C****es EVER play by the rules?

Semper Fi

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Mar 22, 2019 02:11:03   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
A very nice explanation of how the e*******l college came to be, but the rest of it is bulls**t. All that nonsense about how California would elect Clinton and the rest of America Trump is just more of Trump's big lie. The fact is, the standard for this entire country is one man-one v**e, not one acre- one v**e or one cow one v**e. The fact is that 3 million more Americans v**ed for Clinton than did for Trump. The fact is, Clinton should be president or our v**es mean nothing.

Regardless of why the e*******l college was established over two hundred years ago, the reality is that the only reason to keep it is to allow the GOP to elect the President and to give power to rural states where cows outnumber people. Yes, more people live along the coasts than in the middle or the south of the country but that's because they are better places to live and work for a larger number of people. There's a reason why only 30 people live in North Dakota.

We have already given our nod to States Rights in the Senate where Idaho has, lubriciously, the same number of Senators as New York. AS the gentleman from Arkansas so enlightened points out the p**********l e******n is a national e******n so in reality it should only be based on one man one v**e and the e*******l college should go the way of the wagon tongue.
A very nice explanation of how the e*******l colle... (show quote)




Actually, it's to keep California and New York from electing every president from now on. As far as the coasts being better places to live, why when they retire they come to the south? I'll tell you why...cheaper housing...cheaper groceries,...cheaper taxes...warmer weather...a laid back way to live...hey! wait a minute! The south must be a better place to "live" and the coasts must be a better place to work, huh?

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