Brenton Tarrant: Christchurch shootings suspect said Trump is 'symbol of w***e s*******y' (Page 5): Podesta was in NZ a week before the shooting. I blame him. (kidding, sort of) We...

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Podesta was in NZ a week before the shooting. I blame him. (kidding, sort of) We need to check this guy's background, family, internet usage, and if he was using mind-altering meds, or seeing a shrink.

vernon

rumitoid wrote:

Yes. Or maybe not. Hard to say. What about the fire bombing of Dresden in WWII, where the those pilots "cogent and sane"? Is visiting such horror on innocent civilians, knowing it is horror, "cogent and sane"? Just doing their duty? Yes, it was war, yet it was still mass murder.

Oh now who is supporting the n**is.You have nothing but sympathy for Americas enemies.

vernon

rumitoid wrote:

Pretty familiar with the Ten Commandments, had 16 years of religious training.

well it didn't do much good. hoe did you become a satanist ?

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Moses came down from the mountain and punished individuals who engaged in unlawful activities....

He didn't decide to 'firebomb' entire populations because they were at war with the Jews... Although the Jews later actions in Canaan were along that line....

Moses still k**led thousands. Those who believe k*****g and murder are synonymous will be left scratching some part of their anatomy.

Even in a just war understand that the innocent on both sides suffer. Today, the West is fully engaged in a secular cultural war, as deadly as any hot war we've ever fought. Which war is the most dangerous, the one that k**ls the body or the one that murders the soul? A man who possesses an informed conscience has no difficulty answering that question.

The Jews are fully justified in their response, in fact they've been judicious in their response to the Palestinian people who have taken up arms against them as well as using terrorism. From the very beginning in 1946 Jews offered Palestinians land and they refused every attempt at peace because they don't want peace. The civilian population has attacked Jews so how do you differentiate between combatant and noncombatant? You can't! Jews have been very limited in responding to attacks and have not engaged in "carpet bombing" to purposely k**l innocent civilians but go after targeted objectives. Do innocent suffer? Of course but the "intent" is not to k**l the innocent so the moral Law of Double Effect applies.

A soldier can both k**l or murder his enemy. If, for example he h**es his enemy and wants to k**l as many Japs or r*****ds, etc, because he h**es them beyond reason, he has committed murder. However fear for his own life can (and does) mask itself as hatred. Every combatant needs to spend time with their Creator to sort out their actions and emotions after every combat action. Here I must add that Vietnam was the first war in which a large segment of our military had no religious background. The culture war had already begun in America. Many soldiers experienced PTSD because they had no God to reconcile their actions and behavior and to confess their sins and seek forgiveness. But they had more psychologist giving them behavior modifying drugs for "life" than they had chaplains leading them to "Zoe Christos." As Christ diminishes in our military and culture what takes His place?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

padremike wrote:

Moses still k**led thousands. Those who believe k*****g and murder are synonymous will be left scratching some part of their anatomy.

Even in a just war understand that the innocent on both sides suffer. Today, the West is fully engaged in a secular cultural war, as deadly as any hot war we've ever fought. Which war is the most dangerous, the one that k**ls the body or the one that murders the soul? A man who possesses an informed conscience has no difficulty answering that question.

The Jews are fully justified in their response, in fact they've been judicious in their response to the Palestinian people who have taken up arms against them as well as using terrorism. From the very beginning in 1946 Jews offered Palestinians land and they refused every attempt at peace because they don't want peace. The civilian population has attacked Jews so how do you differentiate between combatant and noncombatant? You can't! Jews have been very limited in responding to attacks and have not engaged in "carpet bombing" to purposely k**l innocent civilians but go after targeted objectives. Do innocent suffer? Of course but the "intent" is not to k**l the innocent so the moral Law of Double Effect applies.

A soldier can both k**l or murder his enemy. If, for example he h**es his enemy and wants to k**l as many Japs or r*****ds, etc, because he h**es them beyond reason, he has committed murder. However fear for his own life can (and does) mask itself as hatred. Every combatant needs to spend time with their Creator to sort out their actions and emotions after every combat action. Here I must add that Vietnam was the first war in which a large segment of our military had no religious background. The culture war had already begun in America. Many soldiers experienced PTSD because they had no God to reconcile their actions and behavior and to confess their sins and seek forgiveness. But they had more psychologist giving them behavior modifying drugs for "life" than they had chaplains leading them to "Zoe Christos." As Christ diminishes in our military and culture what takes His place?

Moses still k**led thousands. Those who believe k... (show quote)

Morning Padre...

I was referencing the Jews of the OT...

Israel and the palestinians is a completely different matter...

While I can understand the Reality of collateral damage in war, I still feel that it should not be condoned...

And you have a valid point concerning the Military and its distance from God...

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Seth wrote:

If the mainstream media would start reporting honest, fair, properly researched, balanced, accurate information instead of f**e news, it wouldn't be called "f**e news."

As long as they insist on supplying f**e news, they have no right to complain when the president and other real Americans call it what it is.

If the MSM came out and all admitted that they are bought and paid for, to besmirch, slander, taint, contaminate, and pollute everything that President Trump does, says or even outright make up falsehoods.

People like the troll you're trying to reason with, would just go on to some other bullbiden, on and on...he's brain crunched into lies now, and will always lie and disrespect a man who is and always will be his better.

vernon

eden wrote:

Trump is not to blame for this atrocity. But it is not insignificant that right wing h**e groups see him as their champion based on his insensitively reckless rhetoric.

I'm a so called right winger and i find it peculiar that you see right wing when all the violence and h**e
seems to come from the left.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Morning Padre...

I was referencing the Jews of the OT...

Israel and the palestinians is a completely different matter...

While I can understand the Reality of collateral damage in war, I still feel that it should not be condoned...

And you have a valid point concerning the Military and its distance from God...

One of the sad t***hs of modern war is that they cannot be fought and won (or lost) without k*****g the innocent.

So far as the military and their distance from God, they are but a microcosm of our society.

eden

padremike wrote:

Moses still k**led thousands. Those who believe k*****g and murder are synonymous will be left scratching some part of their anatomy.

Even in a just war understand that the innocent on both sides suffer. Today, the West is fully engaged in a secular cultural war, as deadly as any hot war we've ever fought. Which war is the most dangerous, the one that k**ls the body or the one that murders the soul? A man who possesses an informed conscience has no difficulty answering that question.

The Jews are fully justified in their response, in fact they've been judicious in their response to the Palestinian people who have taken up arms against them as well as using terrorism. From the very beginning in 1946 Jews offered Palestinians land and they refused every attempt at peace because they don't want peace. The civilian population has attacked Jews so how do you differentiate between combatant and noncombatant? You can't! Jews have been very limited in responding to attacks and have not engaged in "carpet bombing" to purposely k**l innocent civilians but go after targeted objectives. Do innocent suffer? Of course but the "intent" is not to k**l the innocent so the moral Law of Double Effect applies.

A soldier can both k**l or murder his enemy. If, for example he h**es his enemy and wants to k**l as many Japs or r*****ds, etc, because he h**es them beyond reason, he has committed murder. However fear for his own life can (and does) mask itself as hatred. Every combatant needs to spend time with their Creator to sort out their actions and emotions after every combat action. Here I must add that Vietnam was the first war in which a large segment of our military had no religious background. The culture war had already begun in America. Many soldiers experienced PTSD because they had no God to reconcile their actions and behavior and to confess their sins and seek forgiveness. But they had more psychologist giving them behavior modifying drugs for "life" than they had chaplains leading them to "Zoe Christos." As Christ diminishes in our military and culture what takes His place?

Moses still k**led thousands. Those who believe k... (show quote)

“Onward Christian Soldiers”?
This kind of religious jingoism is mirrored by Muslim extremists too. You are in good company.

eden

vernon wrote:

I'm a so called right winger and i find it peculiar that you see right wing when all the violence and h**e
seems to come from the left.

Like Charlottesville?

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

eden wrote:

Like Charlottesville?

Like the D******c T*******ts who fly a banner of A****a..who you thoroughly support.

The FBI has declared that l*****t organization as a terrorist group.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

eden wrote:

“Onward Christian Soldiers”?
This kind of religious jingoism is mirrored by Muslim extremists too. You are in good company.

Yes! However Christians, for the greatest majority, are not extremist except to atheists and hedonist . Furthermore, the Christian Church on earth is called the Church Militant. These Christian Soldiers are called to fight against sin, the world, and Satan but we don't k**l them like radical Islam does; we resist them and teach against them like here on the OPP......like we do to you!

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

rumitoid wrote:

The suspected gunman who k**led dozens of people i... (show quote)

Oh MERCY!!! Now we are using the acts of maniacs that "inspired" another maniac to k**l dozens of innocents who heralded from a gun controlled country. I wonder who inspired Jeffery Dahmer to eat people? I've said this many times, but I'll say it again....

Under Trump's administration...

more b****s are working than ever before,

more Hispanics are working than ever before,

more women are working than ever before.

If fact, ALL minorities are enjoying employment in record numbers.

So, please explain, rumitoid, where is the extreme right wing w***e s*******y? Are you really using the words of a maniac to condemn a president that has produced this kind of financial success for people who never had it before? Just because you don't like him?
Although you made no comment of your own, we all know you h**e Trump. So, what is your point in posting this report? Are you condemning Trump? Are you condemning gun owners? It doen't seem like you are condemning murdering maniacs. Please explain.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

eden wrote:

“Onward Christian Soldiers”?
This kind of religious jingoism is mirrored by Muslim extremists too. You are in good company.

Curious that you use the word eden as your screen name, when you obviously don't have knowledge of Christian war. padremike started but I will add to his statements. Islam fights a war here, on earth, against other religions, a war of the flesh. They k**l their enemies in this life by spilling blood. On the other hand, Christians fight a spiritual war against sin and satan and eternal death. The only blood spilled was that of Jesus Christ. Our fight is for the souls of men to be spared...or saved...from eternal damnation. The sword of Islam is metal...our sword is the Word of God, sharper than ANY two edged sword.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

rumitoid wrote:

Yes. Or maybe not. Hard to say. What about the fire bombing of Dresden in WWII, where the those pilots "cogent and sane"? Is visiting such horror on innocent civilians, knowing it is horror, "cogent and sane"? Just doing their duty? Yes, it was war, yet it was still mass murder.

Soldiers do their duty whether they like it or not. All deaths are not murder...war produces k*****g, not necessarily murder.
When a news caster says 200 children were k**led in a bomb blast, people don't like it but they can't connect with 200 children, but when the news caster shows a picture of one little girl running down the road, naked and skin burned off, then people become enraged because they CAN connect to one little girl. It becomes one on one.
Those pilots knew what they were doing, but from their altitude, or perspective, they couldn't connect to the people dying down below as they could have done while watching them burn, as a flamethrower user would have experienced.
Many were still bothered. Check out what happened to the crew of the Enola Gay.