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Mar 16, 2019 00:37:22   #
rumitoid
 
padremike wrote:
You best stick to things you know more about than this subject.


Pretty familiar with the Ten Commandments, had 16 years of religious training.

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Mar 16, 2019 00:41:19   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
rumitoid wrote:
The definition of discipline is "encourage to grow."


No it's not. The root word is disciple - one who follows a teacher or philosopher it involves training and sometimes punishment. The best form, of course, is to raise those in training to become self disciplined.

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Mar 16, 2019 00:49:39   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
rumitoid wrote:
Pretty familiar with the Ten Commandments, had 16 years of religious training.


I've had over 30 years as an Orthodox Priest and previous to that 20 years in the military from 1959 - 1979 not in the priesthood. My understanding here is better than your own. Let's leave it at that.

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Mar 16, 2019 01:33:26   #
rumitoid
 
padremike wrote:
No it's not. The root word is disciple - one who follows a teacher or philosopher it involves training and sometimes punishment. The best form, of course, is to raise those in training to become self disciplined.


Self-discipline is not Christian, do you know that fact. No matter. How can you disagree with discipline being "encourage to grow." What is it then, the encouragement to kowtow?

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Mar 16, 2019 01:35:50   #
rumitoid
 
padremike wrote:
I've had over 30 years as an Orthodox Priest and previous to that 20 years in the military from 1959 - 1979 not in the priesthood. My understanding here is better than your own. Let's leave it at that.


Maybe. I am not saying that I am right, just what I see as true. We can both be blind by numerous reasons.

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Mar 16, 2019 02:30:21   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
rumitoid wrote:
Maybe. I am not saying that I am right, just what I see as true. We can both be blind by numerous reasons.


Progressives are very adapt at moral relativism, your t***h and my t***h and both are equally right! Stupid! You insist on pushing this "k*****g" v."murder" to the limit. One question/example of many I could use: when Moses came down from the Mountain carrying the Ten Words (Ten Commandments) his face still radiant, fresh from his encounter with God, how many of his people did he "murder" as opposed to how many Jewish idolators did he k**l as required by the Law?

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Mar 16, 2019 02:34:39   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
rumitoid wrote:
Self-discipline is not Christian, do you know that fact. No matter. How can you disagree with discipline being "encourage to grow." What is it then, the encouragement to kowtow?


You're going to make discipline into what you want it to be, regardless of what it actually is, so do the Progressive presto changeo and verbicide it to death. Me? I'll stick with the original!

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Mar 16, 2019 02:57:41   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
padremike wrote:
Progressives are very adapt at moral relativism, your t***h and my t***h and both are equally right! Stupid! You insist on pushing this "k*****g" v."murder" to the limit. One question/example of many I could use: when Moses came down from the Mountain carrying the Ten Words (Ten Commandments) his face still radiant, fresh from his encounter with God, how many of his people did he "murder" as opposed to how many Jewish idolators did he k**l as required by the Law?
Progressives are very adapt at moral relativism, y... (show quote)


Moses came down from the mountain and punished individuals who engaged in unlawful activities....

He didn't decide to 'firebomb' entire populations because they were at war with the Jews... Although the Jews later actions in Canaan were along that line....

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Mar 16, 2019 03:37:55   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
rumitoid wrote:
Yes. Or maybe not. Hard to say. What about the fire bombing of Dresden in WWII, where the those pilots "cogent and sane"? Is visiting such horror on innocent civilians, knowing it is horror, "cogent and sane"? Just doing their duty? Yes, it was war, yet it was still mass murder.


What does that have to do with a mass shooting? Did Australia declare war on New Zealand and I missed it?

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Mar 16, 2019 06:55:52   #
eden
 
Seth wrote:
Seems to me that you are reallllly reaching on this one, hemmhor -- sorry, rumitoid -- this is some homicidal crackpot extremist on the other side of the world, who really gives a flying #&€% what he is blathering about?

Besides you, that is...


Trump is not to blame for this atrocity. But it is not insignificant that right wing h**e groups see him as their champion based on his insensitively reckless rhetoric.

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Mar 16, 2019 07:32:10   #
Seth
 
eden wrote:
Trump is not to blame for this atrocity. But it is not insignificant that right wing h**e groups see him as their champion based on his insensitively reckless rhetoric.


They are crackpots. President Trump is not responsible for how they interpret anything he says.

Despite the "it takes a village" idiocy embraced by the left, the fact of the matter is that no one is to blame for the messages received by others based on what those people want to hear -- except them. Trump is not in any way responsible for their perceptions. Only they are.

The fact that you and others can even hint otherwise is nothing less than despicable, but most of us who love our country and are happy with our current POTUS have become accustomed to seeing his every nuance besmirched by creatures who should be grateful they are in a country wherein they can voice anti-government opinion without being prosecuted...or worse, as would happen in the kind of country you people are dead set on morphing America into.

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Mar 16, 2019 09:47:28   #
Kevyn
 
Seth wrote:
Your input here is highly relevant only because it demonstrates why the children of so-called "progressives" grow up the way they do, so ready to blame others for their screw-ups rather than take responsibility for themselves and their actions.

Children raised by conservatives, punishments and all, grow up much more likely to take responsibility for themselves and their actions, as well as much more likely to weigh the possible consequences of their actions before committing themselves.

I've seen "progressive" parents walking with severely misbehaving preadolescent children and, instead of laying down the law, were quite literally pleading with the children to behave.

These children will grow up having absolutely no respect for authority, whereas the children of conservative parents will have that respect.

Given the differences between what you purport to recommend and the likely product of a conservative upbringing, I'll take the latter, thank you, and best of luck to anyone raised according to your beliefs.
Your input here is highly relevant only because it... (show quote)


It starts at the top we have an i***t Pumpkinfuhrer playing president who lies through his teeth, and refuses to take responsibility for his failures and denies his lies when caught and blames others for calling him out. If you are the kid of one of trumps cult members every time you are caught lying, c***ting, stealing, bullying or cursing and insulting your answer is simple. It must be OK the president does it all the time. Bad report card or call from the principal? Just insist its “f**e news”.

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Mar 16, 2019 10:11:09   #
Seth
 
Kevyn wrote:
It starts at the top we have an i***t Pumpkinfuhrer playing president who lies through his teeth, and refuses to take responsibility for his failures and denies his lies when caught and blames others for calling him out. If you are the kid of one of trumps cult members every time you are caught lying, c***ting, stealing, bullying or cursing and insulting your answer is simple. It must be OK the president does it all the time. Bad report card or call from the principal? Just insist its “f**e news”.
It starts at the top we have an i***t Pumpkinfuhre... (show quote)


If the mainstream media would start reporting honest, fair, properly researched, balanced, accurate information instead of f**e news, it wouldn't be called "f**e news."

As long as they insist on supplying f**e news, they have no right to complain when the president and other real Americans call it what it is.

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Mar 16, 2019 10:11:37   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
You'll have to excuse me if I don't put much stock into the views of a deranged psycho..


Which one? The psycho or the PM?

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Mar 16, 2019 10:12:01   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Kevyn wrote:
It starts at the top we have an i***t Pumpkinfuhrer playing president who lies through his teeth, and refuses to take responsibility for his failures and denies his lies when caught and blames others for calling him out. If you are the kid of one of trumps cult members every time you are caught lying, c***ting, stealing, bullying or cursing and insulting your answer is simple. It must be OK the president does it all the time. Bad report card or call from the principal? Just insist its “f**e news”.
It starts at the top we have an i***t Pumpkinfuhre... (show quote)


We all miss the days before Trump when such attacks were unthinkable and never occurred...


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