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Mar 14, 2019 16:35:37   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
Dems will spend tens of billions when the plan is well structured and defines what technologies should be used where appropriate.


Border Patrol Agents already told Dems many times what they need,,,You people just dont want to listen because its coming from Trump Administration!!!....

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Mar 14, 2019 16:47:58   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
proud republican wrote:
Border Patrol Agents already told Dems many times what they need,,,You people just dont want to listen because its coming from Trump Administration!!!....


That is it, and that is all.

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Mar 14, 2019 16:52:43   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Airforceone wrote:
Over the last few weeks it has become obvious Trump is loosing Republican support in the house and senate. It’s a slow withdrawal but it’s beginning to happen and it will now be difficult for Trump to forfill his promises. After all he had total control over Congress and was only able to get one piece of major legislation passed. He has used the Executive orders to repeal certain issues but most are in the court system and have not taken effect to date.

Republicans have stepped up in the senate by approving a resolution sponsored by Democrats to cut off funding for the Saudi-Led coalition in Yemans bloody civil war.
Republicans joined Democrats to build a bipartisan majority which senators viewed as a chance to rebuke Trump for his response to the murder of a US journalist

It appears that Democrats now have Enough v**es in the senate to v**e down Trumps emergency declaration to use $5.8 billion in defense funds to build his border wall. 5 republicans have gone public to v**e with democrats, possibly more republicans will v**e to overturn Trumps veto.

Democrats in the house have v**ed to make the Muellar report public. Trump is trying to bury this report. It also appears at this time there are a number of republicans that appear supporting this legislation. Why would any American approve of Trump burying this report.

But Trumps slump is ongoing.
Trump lost the shutdown fight to Pelosi, so he invokes Emergency action and circumvents Congress. Trumps promise to build a wall from sea to shining sea and Mexico will pay. We ended with a government shutdown and Trumps EO creating national emergency in an attempt to circumvent congress.

Trump after two Summits has lost the fight to North Korea. Satellite photos clearly show North Korea did not stop but are clearly expanding there capabilities.

Looks like he will loose in the senate over the emergency declaration he will veto this bill.

Trumps had a lot of bold promises during his campaign from infrastructure to deficit spending reduction that he has failed to deliver on.

I was doing some reseach on Trump and found an interview with a Question that was asked to Trump

Question: Mr Trump do you believe in raising taxes on the wealthy.

Trumps answer: (I DO) ( I DO) believe in raising taxes even on myself. My tax cut plan will lower taxes for all middle class families. We all know that his tax cut plan came no where close to lowering middle class taxes when 85% of his tax plan went to the upper 1% of wage earners in this country. And it accomplished just the opposite to cut the deficit and his tax plan became deficit financed by $2.4 trillion.

I also found where he promised legislation to administer block grants to all states. Which I thought was a good idea. Give block grants to states and let the states administer there priorities as there needs for Medicaid.

Create Healthcare legislation for all Americans at an affordable price. His promise was repeal and replace. Trump has offered no replacement legislation other than to repeal Obamacare. (TRUMP QUOTE I NEVER REALIZED THAT HEALTHCARE WAS SO DIFFICULT)

Trump promised to propose legislation to invest over ten years a $1.4 trillion infrastructure bill. Trump for over two never mentioned infrastructure but he is now beginning to talk about infrastructure again.

Trump promised to break up Americans largest banks. That was totally forgotten and after the e******n there has been no talk about breaking up banks other than Trumps slow move to break up the consumer protection agency which he promised to keep and expand on consumer protection. Consumer protection actions are down by 80% since Trump took office.

Trump promised legislation, price control on Drugs. Cost of drugs have been rising and Trump has not proposed any legislation on cost of drugs.

Trump also promised to release his taxes. Not a chance of that happening but it appears the democratic controlled house will be able to get his tax returns. This could clear up a lot of aligations that have been lodged against Trump from using foreign money with his businesses, money laundering, Bank fraud, Insurance fraud, tax fraud which Trump calls f**e news. Why would Trump not release his taxes if he has done nothing wrong. All these problems go away.

Trump promised to put his wealth and businesses into a blind trust. He put it into a trust fund but not a blind trust and also put his son’s Eric and Don Jr in charge of the trust.

Trump promised the American people that he would be happy to sit down and testify under oath with Muellar to clear up all this f**e news about his campaign staff. Yes Mr Trump sit down with Muellar and clear up all these investigations.

So Trump has been in office over two years, with 100% control of the House and Senate and had only one piece of legislation to his accomplishments. His tax cut bill that during his campaigned was to raise the taxes on the wealthy and create a massive tax cut for the middle class. A colossal failure

He made promises to balance our trade agreements. Trade imbalance has done nothing but increase to the highest rate in the history of the country to $854 billion and this country is now in a world trade war. His tariff agenda a colossal failure.


There were many Americans that v**ed for Trump based on these promises. So his campaign is gearing up for 2020 what will he promise the American people because he has failed on all his promises during his 2016 campaign.

I listened to a speech by Trump yesterday where he quoted if you v**e for Hilliary Clinton we will spend the next 4 years of Clinton being investigation for many Scandels. Well we all know over the last 2 years Trump and his campaign staff have been investigated and there all headed to jail. (TRUMP QUOTE I WILL ONLY HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE) MANAFORT, Carter Page, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Roger Stone, are these the best he could find, also Trump has fired anybody that disagrees with him, unprecedented in American history Trump has fired more administration officials.

But the right wing points to one thing and the only piece of major legislation his tax cut bill that was promised to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans and cut taxes for the middle class.

But in fairness to the Trump supporters that Trump created our great economy. Could you please tell the OPP bloggers what legislation has President Trump passed to create this economy.
Over the last few weeks it has become obvious Trum... (show quote)


"""There were many Americans that v**ed for Trump based on these promises. """

Considering his relentless opposition and the betrayal of many republicans, Trump has done remarkably well in keeping many of his promises or working to keep them. Sometimes it takes a little time and it's only been two years of him against not only you l*****ts, but 95% of the MSM, most of those who are head as in the entertainment industry, all of the night time talk shows who are now very vocal and well heard pundits and yes, many of his own members of the republican party.

http://www.npr.org/2019/01/20/686531523/progress-report-president-trumps-campaign-promises-2-years-later

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Mar 14, 2019 17:16:06   #
steve66613
 
woodguru wrote:
Don't worry about what you aren't seeing because your head is buried in rhetoric...

progs are looking at healthcare for all
fixing e******n f***d in red states that refuse to get with upgraded systems and controls
repealing tax cuts and eliminating special interest loopholes


You’re absolutely correct! I am worried about “what I don’t see”....and that is: there is virtually nothing coming from the dems. They remain totally absorbed with destroying Trump.

You’re still locked-in on Russia, right? AOC IS sucking the air out of D.C. Good luck with that! Wow! You progs have got some real p**********l hopeful winners so far!

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Mar 14, 2019 17:46:55   #
Airforceone
 
steve66613 wrote:
In your post, I see a WHOLE LOT of “Trump this; Trump that” and more b!tching and complaining.

You reference VERY LITTLE regarding how the progs would do anything positive to benefit our nation. Just whining and groveling.

That’s the essence of the problem isn’t it? Your party doesn’t have the power, so, this is what you’re left with.

Your treatise seams to be a cry for help, or to be believed, and to convince others to join your “pain”. Okay. Here’s the best I’ve got:
GET OVER IT! This is the way things are going to be for the next six years!
In your post, I see a WHOLE LOT of “Trump this; Tr... (show quote)


Not sure what your trying to say. Trumps name was used because the topic was about what Trump promised during his campaign. I could use person 2 like they did in the court documents.

But the idea of this topic was to get your opinion as to Trumps promises during his campaign and while Trump did have control over Congress he only passed one major piece of legislation.

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Mar 14, 2019 17:54:43   #
steve66613
 
Airforceone wrote:
Not sure what your trying to say. Trumps name was used because the topic was about what Trump promised during his campaign. I could use person 2 like they did in the court documents.

But the idea of this topic was to get your opinion as to Trumps promises during his campaign and while Trump did have control over Congress he only passed one major piece of legislation.


Alrighty.....Mr. Trump has done a remarkable job! Got us out of some absurd “deals” with Iran and the carbon debacle.

Has reduced the “reigns” on small business and natural resources. Will get some constitutionalists in the Supreme Court. Got a whole bunch more people working. Got Li’l Kim mind-fk’d. All this while the MSM, Hollywood and about half of the v**ers attack and trash him 24/7.

I’d say: pretty close to super-human for a guy who is rude, crude and unattractive!

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Mar 14, 2019 21:57:28   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Airforceone wrote:
Over the last few weeks it has become obvious Trump is loosing Republican support in the house and senate. It’s a slow withdrawal but it’s beginning to happen and it will now be difficult for Trump to forfill his promises. After all he had total control over Congress and was only able to get one piece of major legislation passed. He has used the Executive orders to repeal certain issues but most are in the court system and have not taken effect to date.

Republicans have stepped up in the senate by approving a resolution sponsored by Democrats to cut off funding for the Saudi-Led coalition in Yemans bloody civil war.
Republicans joined Democrats to build a bipartisan majority which senators viewed as a chance to rebuke Trump for his response to the murder of a US journalist

It appears that Democrats now have Enough v**es in the senate to v**e down Trumps emergency declaration to use $5.8 billion in defense funds to build his border wall. 5 republicans have gone public to v**e with democrats, possibly more republicans will v**e to overturn Trumps veto.

Democrats in the house have v**ed to make the Muellar report public. Trump is trying to bury this report. It also appears at this time there are a number of republicans that appear supporting this legislation. Why would any American approve of Trump burying this report.

But Trumps slump is ongoing.
Trump lost the shutdown fight to Pelosi, so he invokes Emergency action and circumvents Congress. Trumps promise to build a wall from sea to shining sea and Mexico will pay. We ended with a government shutdown and Trumps EO creating national emergency in an attempt to circumvent congress.

Trump after two Summits has lost the fight to North Korea. Satellite photos clearly show North Korea did not stop but are clearly expanding there capabilities.

Looks like he will loose in the senate over the emergency declaration he will veto this bill.

Trumps had a lot of bold promises during his campaign from infrastructure to deficit spending reduction that he has failed to deliver on.

I was doing some reseach on Trump and found an interview with a Question that was asked to Trump

Question: Mr Trump do you believe in raising taxes on the wealthy.

Trumps answer: (I DO) ( I DO) believe in raising taxes even on myself. My tax cut plan will lower taxes for all middle class families. We all know that his tax cut plan came no where close to lowering middle class taxes when 85% of his tax plan went to the upper 1% of wage earners in this country. And it accomplished just the opposite to cut the deficit and his tax plan became deficit financed by $2.4 trillion.

I also found where he promised legislation to administer block grants to all states. Which I thought was a good idea. Give block grants to states and let the states administer there priorities as there needs for Medicaid.

Create Healthcare legislation for all Americans at an affordable price. His promise was repeal and replace. Trump has offered no replacement legislation other than to repeal Obamacare. (TRUMP QUOTE I NEVER REALIZED THAT HEALTHCARE WAS SO DIFFICULT)

Trump promised to propose legislation to invest over ten years a $1.4 trillion infrastructure bill. Trump for over two never mentioned infrastructure but he is now beginning to talk about infrastructure again.

Trump promised to break up Americans largest banks. That was totally forgotten and after the e******n there has been no talk about breaking up banks other than Trumps slow move to break up the consumer protection agency which he promised to keep and expand on consumer protection. Consumer protection actions are down by 80% since Trump took office.

Trump promised legislation, price control on Drugs. Cost of drugs have been rising and Trump has not proposed any legislation on cost of drugs.

Trump also promised to release his taxes. Not a chance of that happening but it appears the democratic controlled house will be able to get his tax returns. This could clear up a lot of aligations that have been lodged against Trump from using foreign money with his businesses, money laundering, Bank fraud, Insurance fraud, tax fraud which Trump calls f**e news. Why would Trump not release his taxes if he has done nothing wrong. All these problems go away.

Trump promised to put his wealth and businesses into a blind trust. He put it into a trust fund but not a blind trust and also put his son’s Eric and Don Jr in charge of the trust.

Trump promised the American people that he would be happy to sit down and testify under oath with Muellar to clear up all this f**e news about his campaign staff. Yes Mr Trump sit down with Muellar and clear up all these investigations.

So Trump has been in office over two years, with 100% control of the House and Senate and had only one piece of legislation to his accomplishments. His tax cut bill that during his campaigned was to raise the taxes on the wealthy and create a massive tax cut for the middle class. A colossal failure

He made promises to balance our trade agreements. Trade imbalance has done nothing but increase to the highest rate in the history of the country to $854 billion and this country is now in a world trade war. His tariff agenda a colossal failure.


There were many Americans that v**ed for Trump based on these promises. So his campaign is gearing up for 2020 what will he promise the American people because he has failed on all his promises during his 2016 campaign.

I listened to a speech by Trump yesterday where he quoted if you v**e for Hilliary Clinton we will spend the next 4 years of Clinton being investigation for many Scandels. Well we all know over the last 2 years Trump and his campaign staff have been investigated and there all headed to jail. (TRUMP QUOTE I WILL ONLY HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE) MANAFORT, Carter Page, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Roger Stone, are these the best he could find, also Trump has fired anybody that disagrees with him, unprecedented in American history Trump has fired more administration officials.

But the right wing points to one thing and the only piece of major legislation his tax cut bill that was promised to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans and cut taxes for the middle class.

But in fairness to the Trump supporters that Trump created our great economy. Could you please tell the OPP bloggers what legislation has President Trump passed to create this economy.
Over the last few weeks it has become obvious Trum... (show quote)


Excellent post...
I hope this is the first of many civil posts...
Let's agree to disagree on politics as gentlemen

I will not respond to the issues in the post this time... But in the future watch out

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Mar 14, 2019 22:08:11   #
Airforceone
 
proud republican wrote:
The issue that we need Border Wall in some places...Not from sea to shining sea!!!


Let’s just begin with Trumps campaign promise of a Great Wall from sea to shining sea and Mexico will pay. That’s not the issue with me anymore. But I have studied every immigration bill dating back to Ronald Reagan and it was not difficult to understand because it’s not that I just stated researching. Like I said before for many years I studied legislation. So I did follow this legislation when when it was first proposed and enacted.

Since we are debating barriers along the southern border let’s take a look. The First of the barriers was proposed under Bush 43. ( THE BORDER AND FENCING ACT) of 2006 labeled H. R. 6061. Prior to this bill being signed into law there was about 200 miles of existing fencing and steel slats. Around heavily trafficked areas mostly near the ports of entry. But this legislation authorized construction of an addition 700 miles of fencing on the southern border. Approximately 500 miles of barriers have been completed With sections not installed due to on going litigation on eminent domain. Over the last few years the CBP as litigation has been finalized construction continued and that’s where Trump is taking the credit when he says (I AM BUILDING FENCING NOW) But this was approved in 2006.

Now think about Trumps proposal of an additional 200 miles of fencing that he is looking for under his national emergency act. That money is already available and the only reason these areas are still open is due to litigation.

Prior to the Bush fencing act the illegal (REFORM AND IMMIGRATION RESPONSIBILITY ACT OF 1996) was inacted under Bill Clinton which enacted the process to apply legally for entrance to the US. This legislation is very extensive. I have posted a few snap shots for you to look at and if you have the time you can just look it up. This will give you an idea of our existing laws that over the years are not being enforced due to the lack of personal. But Obama enacted legislation to add 15,000 more border agents. Just look at the forms that need to be filed.

The Border And Fencing Act enacted under Bush covered the area called the melting points. Where i******s could just run across the border and melt into the communities along the border.

Lets look at Reagan who signed sweeping immigration into law. Reagan’s legislation created tighter security at our ports of entry. Also US employers would face strict fines and penalties for hiring i******s but the law was not funded properly and no way for employers to verify if these i******s with phony SS numbers and f**e drivers licenses so how do you levy fines. Bill Clinton recognized this problem so he was able to pass legislation on the evarify system. Which was a great idea a national system where employers had an agency to varify if an illegal was applying for a job and if they hired an illegal there was no excuses when they got fined. Also under the Reagan also had legislation any i*****l i*******t that entered this country before 1982 would be eligible for amnesty. Today that’s a toxic word you can only imagine if Reagan was running today and proposing amnesty for 3 million i*****l i*******ts

Bill Clinton’s was really good expecially when he inacted the evarify system and if Clintons legislation was enforced correctly why would an illegal come to this country if he could not get a job. And if you read Clinton’s legislation the laws that are required to gain access for work.

All democrats and republicans are calling for existing laws to be funded properly to enforce the laws we already have. That’s why in the December legislation that Trump shut down the government that legislation had funding to not only upgrade and expand our training facilities to Accommodate hiring 15,000 new employees it also had new and advanced technology funding.

Now Trump wanted $5.8 billion for additional spending for fencing that’s already funded but held up in litigation. If you use the chart that I posted it shows over the years as new legislation was passed the i******s crossing has gone down. We are at a point now Of 40,000 i******s are entering this country but that number included i******s that enter legally thru our ports of entry and they stay. It’s estimated that 80% enter use our ports of entry. But the legislation in Dec and Jan addresses all these issues expecially proper funding to enforce our i*********n l*ws.

So from Reagan to Clinton to Bush to Obama to Trump all democrats and republicans working together passing bi partisan legislation to shut down our borders that’s why I use to get angry when republicans expecially Trump use the talking points that democrats are for open borders.

This legislation passed over the last 40 years is massive I could be typing for days explaining it. All I can say is read all this legislation that has been enacted over 40 years and if properly enforced there is no problem. Two pieces of legislation I wish you would read is the Obama comprehensive immigration reform bill and the legislation passed almost unanimously in January is a carbon copy of of the Obama Comprehensive Immigration bill that was passed on a bi-Partisan v**e in the senate and they Republican held house refused to v**e on the bill.

That’s why after all this legislation passed over 40 years was passed by democratic and republican presidents and passed with bipartisan v**es in the house and senate.

But I hope that you will take the time to read all these immigration reform bills passed over 40 years.

That’s why Trumps emergency act is crazy there is no emergency on our southern borders.















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Mar 15, 2019 02:02:33   #
woodguru
 
steve66613 wrote:
You’re absolutely correct! I am worried about “what I don’t see”....and that is: there is virtually nothing coming from the dems. They remain totally absorbed with destroying Trump.

You’re still locked-in on Russia, right? AOC IS sucking the air out of D.C. Good luck with that! Wow! You progs have got some real p**********l hopeful winners so far!


I just pointed out things that dems will be doing

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Mar 15, 2019 09:02:05   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Keep on dreaming lefties! Support from the people for a conservative government is rising to the point of war! Ur pushing to far and will assure much prayer and a large push for 2nd term!!!! Keep it up!

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Mar 15, 2019 20:51:08   #
Airforceone
 
proud republican wrote:
Border Patrol Agents already told Dems many times what they need,,,You people just dont want to listen because its coming from Trump Administration!!!....


Not sure what your talking about the democrats have followed the advice of the career officials at at CBP, Homeland security, and department of immigration. Not the Trump cronies that just tell Trump what he wants to hear. So what does a career real estate mogul know about protecting our borders.

He fired up the right wing extemist by telling them he would build a Great Wall and Mexico will pay. (HE FAILED) For two years 100% control over Congress he never proposed building that wall. Then he tells his Cronies in Congress he wanted $5.8 billion in the budget for wall construction. Congress said no, (HE FAILED AGAIN) then he shut down the government for 38 days. Congress then after the pressure of the shutdown passed another Bill. He failed again, then he invokes a national emergency and the House and senate v**ed again saying his emergency was a power grab. He smiled again. Now after 12 republicans in the senate v**ed to stop the emergency Trump Vetos. Trump fails on this issue 5 times the will of congress was clear but he needs his base at all cost or he stands no chance of getting re-elected. So he lied and lied and misinformed his base on stats and statistics to convince his base that after ignoring this national emergency it had to be done.

Trump Quote I don’t need to do this

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Mar 15, 2019 20:56:14   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Airforceone wrote:
Not sure what your talking about the democrats have followed the advice of the career officials at at CBP, Homeland security, and department of immigration. Not the Trump cronies that just tell Trump what he wants to hear. So what does a career real estate mogul know about protecting our borders.

He fired up the right wing extemist by telling them he would build a Great Wall and Mexico will pay. (HE FAILED) For two years 100% control over Congress he never proposed building that wall. Then he tells his Cronies in Congress he wanted $5.8 billion in the budget for wall construction. Congress said no, (HE FAILED AGAIN) then he shut down the government for 38 days. Congress then after the pressure of the shutdown passed another Bill. He failed again, then he invokes a national emergency and the House and senate v**ed again saying his emergency was a power grab. He smiled again. Now after 12 republicans in the senate v**ed to stop the emergency Trump Vetos. Trump fails on this issue 5 times the will of congress was clear but he needs his base at all cost or he stands no chance of getting re-elected. So he lied and lied and misinformed his base on stats and statistics to convince his base that after ignoring this national emergency it had to be done.

Trump Quote I don’t need to do this
Not sure what your talking about the democrats hav... (show quote)


You calling Border Patrol Agents that tell President what they need cronies????..Why???Because they are telling the t***h???They are there in front lines 24/7/365...I think they know better then Congress swamp people!!!

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Mar 15, 2019 22:11:54   #
Airforceone
 
proud republican wrote:
You calling Border Patrol Agents that tell President what they need cronies????..Why???Because they are telling the t***h???They are there in front lines 24/7/365...I think they know better then Congress swamp people!!!


That’s not what I said the cronies are the people that are not qualified and Trump puts them in charge of these agencies.

Democrats are listening to the career officials not Trumps cronies.

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Mar 20, 2019 20:07:53   #
Airforceone
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Keep on dreaming lefties! Support from the people for a conservative government is rising to the point of war! Ur pushing to far and will assure much prayer and a large push for 2nd term!!!! Keep it up!


What another civil war is that what you saying.

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Mar 20, 2019 20:11:33   #
Airforceone
 
steve66613 wrote:
Alrighty.....Mr. Trump has done a remarkable job! Got us out of some absurd “deals” with Iran and the carbon debacle.

Has reduced the “reigns” on small business and natural resources. Will get some constitutionalists in the Supreme Court. Got a whole bunch more people working. Got Li’l Kim mind-fk’d. All this while the MSM, Hollywood and about half of the v**ers attack and trash him 24/7.

I’d say: pretty close to super-human for a guy who is rude, crude and unattractive!


There investigating real crimes, not the phony crimes on Clinton. What has all Trumps inner circle pleading guilty is it because there innocent.

Not sure but maybe right wingers plead guilty because there innocent. It’s about time the right wing understands we are a nation of laws and those laws will protect this country from Trump and his crime family.

Sorry Trumps going to jail

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