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Mar 14, 2019 20:57:26   #
Sicilianthing
 
Rose42 wrote:
Sent to me, I'd give credit if I knew where it came from.

A couple years ago I was working security at a bar in northern Virginia. I overheard a table of college kids arguing about gun rights and gun control and it was getting far too emotional so I did what any sane combat veteran would do and attempted to exfiltrate. I must not have withdrawn as surreptitiously as I intended, because I was stopped in my tracks when a 5-foot-nothing brunette seemingly leapt in front of me and blurted out "excuse me, can you help us?"

I'm sure I must have looked irritated as I cycled through the possible quips and excuses I considered available to me but being uncertain that she wasn't some Senator's daughter, I caved: "What's up?"

She basically leads me to this table of 2 other females (probably both named Karen) and a very soft looking male.

Becky: "So, we were just talking about current events and, you know. So, you look like you're probably in the military, right? Like the Army?"

(When you accuse someone of being in the military you probably don't need to give an example)

Me: "Similar.. yea"

Becky: "Right. Okay. So, do you think civilians should be allowed to own guns?"

Me: "Most of us. Yes."

Becky: (clearly not happy with my answer) "Okay, so, why do you think you need a gun?"

(At this point it's almost 2am and I've just given up on patience. Hold my beer)

(With intentionally overt condescension): "Oh, honey, I don't. I don't need a gun."

Becky stares at me blankly, so I continue, but with a more serious tone:

"I could follow you home, walk up your driveway, and beat you to death with the daily newspaper.

I could choke you to death with that purse.

I could take a credit card, break it in half, and cut your throat open with it.

With enough time and effort I could beat your boyfriend here with a rolled up pair of socks.

I could probably dream up six dozen other ways I could easily end your life if you gave me an hour or so.

If I wanted to, I could wrap my hand around that beer mug and k**l all four of you before you could make it to the exit. The worst part is, in your utopian little fantasyland, there ain't a thing any of you could do about it.

I don't need a gun.

You need a gun.

You need a gun because of men like me."

Call me a jerk, but if you want to keep your guns, these are the conversations we all need to start having.
Sent to me, I'd give credit if I knew where it cam... (show quote)


>>>

Yep get a little raven for your size and buy plenty of ammo, go take the classes and learn how to use it.
Go to the range and fire away... get handy with it.
Everyone else is.

time to take our Country back from all the Illegal, Muslim and foreign Scumbags on our land.

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Mar 15, 2019 07:59:42   #
Big dog
 
Rose42 wrote:
Sent to me, I'd give credit if I knew where it came from.

A couple years ago I was working security at a bar in northern Virginia. I overheard a table of college kids arguing about gun rights and gun control and it was getting far too emotional so I did what any sane combat veteran would do and attempted to exfiltrate. I must not have withdrawn as surreptitiously as I intended, because I was stopped in my tracks when a 5-foot-nothing brunette seemingly leapt in front of me and blurted out "excuse me, can you help us?"

I'm sure I must have looked irritated as I cycled through the possible quips and excuses I considered available to me but being uncertain that she wasn't some Senator's daughter, I caved: "What's up?"

She basically leads me to this table of 2 other females (probably both named Karen) and a very soft looking male.

Becky: "So, we were just talking about current events and, you know. So, you look like you're probably in the military, right? Like the Army?"

(When you accuse someone of being in the military you probably don't need to give an example)

Me: "Similar.. yea"

Becky: "Right. Okay. So, do you think civilians should be allowed to own guns?"

Me: "Most of us. Yes."

Becky: (clearly not happy with my answer) "Okay, so, why do you think you need a gun?"

(At this point it's almost 2am and I've just given up on patience. Hold my beer)

(With intentionally overt condescension): "Oh, honey, I don't. I don't need a gun."

Becky stares at me blankly, so I continue, but with a more serious tone:

"I could follow you home, walk up your driveway, and beat you to death with the daily newspaper.

I could choke you to death with that purse.

I could take a credit card, break it in half, and cut your throat open with it.

With enough time and effort I could beat your boyfriend here with a rolled up pair of socks.

I could probably dream up six dozen other ways I could easily end your life if you gave me an hour or so.

If I wanted to, I could wrap my hand around that beer mug and k**l all four of you before you could make it to the exit. The worst part is, in your utopian little fantasyland, there ain't a thing any of you could do about it.

I don't need a gun.

You need a gun.

You need a gun because of men like me."

Call me a jerk, but if you want to keep your guns, these are the conversations we all need to start having.
Sent to me, I'd give credit if I knew where it cam... (show quote)


Absolutely Great.

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Mar 15, 2019 08:46:06   #
okie don
 
Kevyn wrote:
There is no shortage of right wing i***ts.


You can protect yourself with a club.
I'll select the hand gun.
Oklahoma just passed Constitutiomal Carry effective November.
We are the 14th State now.
Good luck protecting yourself and property .

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Mar 15, 2019 09:56:04   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Kevyn wrote:
The US murder rate last year was 18 times higher than in the UK the firearm murder rate was 138 times higher in the US than in the UK. Flooding the UK with firearms and allowing people to carry them might cut down on knife attacks but only because the criminals, drunks, dope fiends and lunatics would have access to much deadlier weapons and would trade knives for guns. Last year there were 18 firearm murders in the UK here we had ten thousand.


H**e to bust your bubble Kevyn; (well, now THAT'S a fib, I LOVE doing it), but in the year 1900, England had no gun control laws. Their murder rate was lower than it is today. Explain that. England has never had a gun problem.
It is almost impossible for the average person to own a gun in Mexico, yet their murder rate is five times as high as ours, and with one third of our population they had twice as many murders last year.
London, England had a higher murder rate than New York City last year.
Tell me, oh intelligent one; do you think someone k**led with a knife is somehow less dead?

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Mar 15, 2019 09:57:50   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

Yep get a little raven for your size and buy plenty of ammo, go take the classes and learn how to use it.
Go to the range and fire away... get handy with it.
Everyone else is.

time to take our Country back from all the Illegal, Muslim and foreign Scumbags on our land.


A while back there was a rather large man in Chattanooga, TN who was shot several time with one of those little Raven pop guns. He took the gun away from the shooter, beat the s**t out of him and drove himself to the hospital.

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Mar 15, 2019 11:06:40   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Kevyn wrote:
That’s why I used actual statistics to show how misguided 4430 was in his crazy assertion. I would not call him ignorant just misinformed.

Ah, 'statistics'. That explains it.

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Mar 15, 2019 11:19:04   #
Sicilianthing
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
A while back there was a rather large man in Chattanooga, TN who was shot several time with one of those little Raven pop guns. He took the gun away from the shooter, beat the s**t out of him and drove himself to the hospital.


>>>

Noted but I hold .25hp in mine and no one is walking away from that, trust me.

But at least grandma can use it as a deterrent.

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Mar 15, 2019 11:30:04   #
Rose42
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
A while back there was a rather large man in Chattanooga, TN who was shot several time with one of those little Raven pop guns. He took the gun away from the shooter, beat the s**t out of him and drove himself to the hospital.


That's why its good to have a dog. Isn't it the Navy Seals who say 'two is one and one is none'. Always have a backup.

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Mar 15, 2019 11:46:57   #
fullspinzoo
 
Kevyn wrote:
The US murder rate last year was 18 times higher than in the UK the firearm murder rate was 138 times higher in the US than in the UK. Flooding the UK with firearms and allowing people to carry them might cut down on knife attacks but only because the criminals, drunks, dope fiends and lunatics would have access to much deadlier weapons and would trade knives for guns. Last year there were 18 firearm murders in the UK here we had ten thousand.


We're tired of you pulling absurd numbers out of your ass without a "link". Have you heard of it?

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Mar 15, 2019 14:22:21   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

Noted but I hold .25hp in mine and no one is walking away from that, trust me.

But at least grandma can use it as a deterrent.


A 22 is more effective, use CCI stingers...

I was talking with a big big man... I would have guessed 6'8 and big.

He worked as a security guard in West Sacramento..(s**thole!).

He told me of the night that a Mexican gang member shot him with a 22.

I asked him, "what did you do??"


This big gentleman said "I fell down and hurt like hell, I'm not John Wayne!"

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Mar 15, 2019 15:03:35   #
Sicilianthing
 
byronglimish wrote:
A 22 is more effective, use CCI stingers...

I was talking with a big big man... I would have guessed 6'8 and big.

He worked as a security guard in West Sacramento..(s**thole!).

He told me of the night that a Mexican gang member shot him with a 22.

I asked him, "what did you do??"


This big gentleman said "I fell down and hurt like hell, I'm not John Wayne!"


>>>

Noted let me see what I can find.

And just another Mexican Scumbag on our land.

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Mar 15, 2019 15:39:44   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Rose42 wrote:
Sent to me, I'd give credit if I knew where it came from.

A couple years ago I was working security at a bar in northern Virginia. I overheard a table of college kids arguing about gun rights and gun control and it was getting far too emotional so I did what any sane combat veteran would do and attempted to exfiltrate. I must not have withdrawn as surreptitiously as I intended, because I was stopped in my tracks when a 5-foot-nothing brunette seemingly leapt in front of me and blurted out "excuse me, can you help us?"

I'm sure I must have looked irritated as I cycled through the possible quips and excuses I considered available to me but being uncertain that she wasn't some Senator's daughter, I caved: "What's up?"

She basically leads me to this table of 2 other females (probably both named Karen) and a very soft looking male.

Becky: "So, we were just talking about current events and, you know. So, you look like you're probably in the military, right? Like the Army?"

(When you accuse someone of being in the military you probably don't need to give an example)

Me: "Similar.. yea"

Becky: "Right. Okay. So, do you think civilians should be allowed to own guns?"

Me: "Most of us. Yes."

Becky: (clearly not happy with my answer) "Okay, so, why do you think you need a gun?"

(At this point it's almost 2am and I've just given up on patience. Hold my beer)

(With intentionally overt condescension): "Oh, honey, I don't. I don't need a gun."

Becky stares at me blankly, so I continue, but with a more serious tone:

"I could follow you home, walk up your driveway, and beat you to death with the daily newspaper.

I could choke you to death with that purse.

I could take a credit card, break it in half, and cut your throat open with it.

With enough time and effort I could beat your boyfriend here with a rolled up pair of socks.

I could probably dream up six dozen other ways I could easily end your life if you gave me an hour or so.

If I wanted to, I could wrap my hand around that beer mug and k**l all four of you before you could make it to the exit. The worst part is, in your utopian little fantasyland, there ain't a thing any of you could do about it.

I don't need a gun.

You need a gun.

You need a gun because of men like me."

Call me a jerk, but if you want to keep your guns, these are the conversations we all need to start having.
Sent to me, I'd give credit if I knew where it cam... (show quote)


As Benzle Volts was saying, "A Marine is never outmanned or outgunned." I take it to mean any veteran. When asked to explain he said, "you have a pencil, their eyes aren't safe." Personally if not using one of my guns I prefer a pen to the voicebox. I do agree.

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Mar 15, 2019 19:38:01   #
teabag09
 
Kevyn wrote:
The US murder rate last year was 18 times higher than in the UK the firearm murder rate was 138 times higher in the US than in the UK. Flooding the UK with firearms and allowing people to carry them might cut down on knife attacks but only because the criminals, drunks, dope fiends and lunatics would have access to much deadlier weapons and would trade knives for guns. Last year there were 18 firearm murders in the UK here we had ten thousand.


2016, 65.64 million UK population... 2016, 323.13 million US population. We had 5 times the number of people in this this country as does the UK. Most concentrated on both coasts. Mike

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Mar 15, 2019 19:42:55   #
Carol Kelly
 
byronglimish wrote:
Only our enemies want to disarm law abiding citizens.


Righto!

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Mar 15, 2019 19:47:47   #
Carol Kelly
 
Kevyn wrote:
The US murder rate last year was 18 times higher than in the UK the firearm murder rate was 138 times higher in the US than in the UK. Flooding the UK with firearms and allowing people to carry them might cut down on knife attacks but only because the criminals, drunks, dope fiends and lunatics would have access to much deadlier weapons and would trade knives for guns. Last year there were 18 firearm murders in the UK here we had ten thousand.


Dope “fiends”?

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