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Mar 14, 2019 08:57:38   #
MR Mister (a regular here)
 
Every year, many thousands of American parents find that the son or daughter they sent to college has been transformed by college into a leftist. For left-wing parents, this may be a blessing, but for parents who are not leftist—not to mention conservative—it is often painfully jolting.

It is jolting because their beloved child now holds America in contempt; prefers socialism to capitalism; regards all white people and police as racist; believes the Bible, Christianity, and Judaism are not only nonsense but dangerous nonsense; no longer believes men and women are inherently different—or even that male and female objectively exist; is disinterested in getting married and having children; believes the president of the United States is a fascist—as are all those who voted for him, and supports the suppression of speech that he or she regards as “hate speech.”

While this is music to the ears of left-wing parents, most traditionally liberal parents will not be all that happy with this transformation.

Unlike leftists, most liberals do love America and think that, despite its flaws, it is worthy of respect. They do not believe male and female are subjective categories, and they believe in free speech—even for “hate speech.”

For conservative parents, the transformation is far worse. “Nightmare” is not too strong a description. Not only does their child hold everything they cherish in contempt, their child, who loved and respected them a year or two before, now holds them in contempt.

It is a nightmare for another reason: Young people who are transformed into leftists almost always become less kind, less happy, and angrier.

It’s hard to imagine the opposite could occur—that is, that a young person could buy into all the left-wing views described above and become a sweeter human being.

It is a sad rule of life that whatever the left touches, it ruins; music, art, literature, religion, late-night TV, the Academy Awards, sports, economics, the family structure, the Boy Scouts, and race relations are just a few examples. It also ruins people—their character and their happiness.

How could it not?

One of the prerequisites of good character—as well as of happiness—is gratitude, and leftism is rooted in ingratitude. If you are grateful to be an American, you are, by definition, not a leftist.

If you are, for example, a black who is grateful to be an American, you are a “traitor to your race,” an “Uncle Tom.”

If you are a woman who is grateful to be an American, you are a “traitor to your gender.” Feminist icon Gloria Steinem once called female Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison a “female impersonator” because a real woman cannot be a conservative.

In addition, the left drills into every nonwhite and every woman the idea that they are victims, and people who see themselves as victims are ungrateful and angry, two traits that always make a person meaner.

Every parent whose child came home from college (or, increasingly, high school) a leftist should be asked: “Is your daughter or son happier as a result of becoming a leftist? Is he or she kinder? More tolerant? More respectful?”

So it is not only institutions that the left ruins, but also the character of its adherents.

Where are the prominent conservative equivalents of Robert De Niro shouting “F— Trump” at awards ceremonies?

Of Sarah Silverman tweeting to the president of the United States: “I’m just gonna go with F— YOU, and also add that you are a smelly penis hole with balls that touch the water. Eat s—, you greedy t—“?

Of Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., telling supporters, among whom were children, “We’re gonna impeach the motherf—er”?

Every American should watch how a group of 10-year-old girls recently treated 85-year-old California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. Being indoctrinated into leftism apparently permitted them to treat a U.S. senator, not to mention a woman 75 years older than them, with contempt.

It is inconceivable that a group of 10-year-old conservative kids, accompanied by their teachers, would ever treat an 85-year-old, senator or not, so condescendingly.

When you send your child to college, you are not only playing Russian roulette with their values. You are playing Russian roulette with their character and the way they will treat you.

Left-wing parents do not have a similar worry. If their child somehow returns home from college a Christian or a religious Jew, not only will they not be treated with contempt, they will probably be treated with even more respect than before.

Leftism makes you worse. Judeo-Christian religions make you better. That might not be a fashionable view, but it just happens to be true.

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Mar 14, 2019 10:06:21   #
Kevyn (a regular here)
 
MR Mister wrote:
Every year, many thousands of American parents find that the son or daughter they sent to college has been transformed by college into a leftist. For left-wing parents, this may be a blessing, but for parents who are not leftist—not to mention conservative—it is often painfully jolting.

It is jolting because their beloved child now holds America in contempt; prefers socialism to capitalism; regards all white people and police as racist; believes the Bible, Christianity, and Judaism are not only nonsense but dangerous nonsense; no longer believes men and women are inherently different—or even that male and female objectively exist; is disinterested in getting married and having children; believes the president of the United States is a fascist—as are all those who voted for him, and supports the suppression of speech that he or she regards as “hate speech.”

While this is music to the ears of left-wing parents, most traditionally liberal parents will not be all that happy with this transformation.

Unlike leftists, most liberals do love America and think that, despite its flaws, it is worthy of respect. They do not believe male and female are subjective categories, and they believe in free speech—even for “hate speech.”

For conservative parents, the transformation is far worse. “Nightmare” is not too strong a description. Not only does their child hold everything they cherish in contempt, their child, who loved and respected them a year or two before, now holds them in contempt.

It is a nightmare for another reason: Young people who are transformed into leftists almost always become less kind, less happy, and angrier.

It’s hard to imagine the opposite could occur—that is, that a young person could buy into all the left-wing views described above and become a sweeter human being.

It is a sad rule of life that whatever the left touches, it ruins; music, art, literature, religion, late-night TV, the Academy Awards, sports, economics, the family structure, the Boy Scouts, and race relations are just a few examples. It also ruins people—their character and their happiness.

How could it not?

One of the prerequisites of good character—as well as of happiness—is gratitude, and leftism is rooted in ingratitude. If you are grateful to be an American, you are, by definition, not a leftist.

If you are, for example, a black who is grateful to be an American, you are a “traitor to your race,” an “Uncle Tom.”

If you are a woman who is grateful to be an American, you are a “traitor to your gender.” Feminist icon Gloria Steinem once called female Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison a “female impersonator” because a real woman cannot be a conservative.

In addition, the left drills into every nonwhite and every woman the idea that they are victims, and people who see themselves as victims are ungrateful and angry, two traits that always make a person meaner.

Every parent whose child came home from college (or, increasingly, high school) a leftist should be asked: “Is your daughter or son happier as a result of becoming a leftist? Is he or she kinder? More tolerant? More respectful?”

So it is not only institutions that the left ruins, but also the character of its adherents.

Where are the prominent conservative equivalents of Robert De Niro shouting “F— Trump” at awards ceremonies?

Of Sarah Silverman tweeting to the president of the United States: “I’m just gonna go with F— YOU, and also add that you are a smelly penis hole with balls that touch the water. Eat s—, you greedy t—“?

Of Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., telling supporters, among whom were children, “We’re gonna impeach the motherf—er”?

Every American should watch how a group of 10-year-old girls recently treated 85-year-old California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. Being indoctrinated into leftism apparently permitted them to treat a U.S. senator, not to mention a woman 75 years older than them, with contempt.

It is inconceivable that a group of 10-year-old conservative kids, accompanied by their teachers, would ever treat an 85-year-old, senator or not, so condescendingly.

When you send your child to college, you are not only playing Russian roulette with their values. You are playing Russian roulette with their character and the way they will treat you.

Left-wing parents do not have a similar worry. If their child somehow returns home from college a Christian or a religious Jew, not only will they not be treated with contempt, they will probably be treated with even more respect than before.

Leftism makes you worse. Judeo-Christian religions make you better. That might not be a fashionable view, but it just happens to be true.
Every year, many thousands of American parents fin... (show quote)


In simple terms professing to make America great again is the right saying our nation is not good. Progressives love and admire our nation while recognizing past and current wrongs and understanding they can be corrected and our great nation can become better and better.

I too find the insults and profanity that is common these days undesirable. Sadly this has been embraced by none other than the president who refers to other nations as shitholes, legitimate inquiries as bullshit and uses schoolyard insults against his political opponents.

A university education for good reason gives students knowledge beyond the bubble of home. They learn about different cultures, religions and ideas than they knew growing up. Hand wringing right wing parents don’t like it when their kids come home and go to yoga class, read the work of beat authors or have friends of a different race, religion or nationality. The university dosn’t teach people to become gay, if doing its job it teaches them to be kind and decent to others. If your kid comes home from the university and comes out, it isn’t that school made them that way; they were already secretly gay and miserable under your roof.

As far as your question when your daughter comes home from school is she more kind tolerant happier and more respectful as a progressive? The answer is likely mixed. She will be kinder to those different to her that she was raised to dislike and distrust, she will be more tolerant of gay people or people of different religious beliefs and atheists but likely less tolerant of bigots. The same is true with respect. She will have learned the difference between courtesy and respect. Respect is something a person gains through their actions and deeds it is not something that is automatically gained through age or financial accomplishment.

There are plenty of old fools who if they behave decently deserve courtesy but have earned no respect. There are also many people who are “successful” financially but have gotten that way through unethical means they too deserve no respect. As far as being happier, to a certain extent the old adage that ignorance is bliss holds some water. Learning that our environment is being fouled, corporate money controls our elected officals more than our votes and that our president is a criminal and compulsive liar is not happy news. But being aware of these things allows young people to focus on changing them and making our nation even greater, which is exactly what we need.

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Mar 14, 2019 10:17:08   #
Floyd Brown
 
Kevyn wrote:
In simple terms professing to make America great again is the right saying our nation is not good. Progressives love and admire our nation while recognizing past and current wrongs and understanding they can be corrected and our great nation can become better and better.

I too find the insults and profanity that is common these days undesirable. Sadly this has been embraced by none other than the president who refers to other nations as shitholes, legitimate inquiries as bullshit and uses schoolyard insults against his political opponents.

A university education for good reason gives students knowledge beyond the bubble of home. They learn about different cultures, religions and ideas than they knew growing up. Hand wringing right wing parents don’t like it when there kids come home and go to yoga class, read the work of beat authors or have friends of a different race, religion or nationality. The university dosn’t teach people to become gay, if doing its job it teaches them to be kind and decent to others. If your kid comes home from the university and comes out, it isn’t that school made them that way; they were already secretly gay and miserable under your roof.

As far as your question when your daughter comes home from school is she more kind tolerant happier and more respectful as a progressive? The answer is likely mixed. She will be kinder to those different to her that she was raised to dislike and distrust, she will be more tolerant of gay people or people of different religious beliefs and atheists but likely less tolerant of bigots. The same is true with respect. She will have learned the difference between courtesy and respect. Respect is something a person gains through their actions and deeds it is not something that is automatically gained through age or financial accomplishment.

There are plenty of old fools who if they behave decently deserve courtesy but have earned no respect. There are also many people who are “successful” financially but have gotten that way through unethical means they too deserve no respect. As far as being happier, to a certain extent the old adage that ignorance is bliss holds some water. Learning that our environment is being fouled, corporate money controls our elected officals more than our votes and that our president is a criminal and compulsive liar is not happy news. But being aware of these things allows young people to focus on changing them and making our nation even greater, which is exactly what we need.
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As always a good out look on life.

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Mar 14, 2019 11:09:20   #
Lonewolf (a regular here)
 
Kevyn wrote:
In simple terms professing to make America great again is the right saying our nation is not good. Progressives love and admire our nation while recognizing past and current wrongs and understanding they can be corrected and our great nation can become better and better.

I too find the insults and profanity that is common these days undesirable. Sadly this has been embraced by none other than the president who refers to other nations as shitholes, legitimate inquiries as bullshit and uses schoolyard insults against his political opponents.

A university education for good reason gives students knowledge beyond the bubble of home. They learn about different cultures, religions and ideas than they knew growing up. Hand wringing right wing parents don’t like it when their kids come home and go to yoga class, read the work of beat authors or have friends of a different race, religion or nationality. The university dosn’t teach people to become gay, if doing its job it teaches them to be kind and decent to others. If your kid comes home from the university and comes out, it isn’t that school made them that way; they were already secretly gay and miserable under your roof.

As far as your question when your daughter comes home from school is she more kind tolerant happier and more respectful as a progressive? The answer is likely mixed. She will be kinder to those different to her that she was raised to dislike and distrust, she will be more tolerant of gay people or people of different religious beliefs and atheists but likely less tolerant of bigots. The same is true with respect. She will have learned the difference between courtesy and respect. Respect is something a person gains through their actions and deeds it is not something that is automatically gained through age or financial accomplishment.

There are plenty of old fools who if they behave decently deserve courtesy but have earned no respect. There are also many people who are “successful” financially but have gotten that way through unethical means they too deserve no respect. As far as being happier, to a certain extent the old adage that ignorance is bliss holds some water. Learning that our environment is being fouled, corporate money controls our elected officals more than our votes and that our president is a criminal and compulsive liar is not happy news. But being aware of these things allows young people to focus on changing them and making our nation even greater, which is exactly what we need.
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Mar 15, 2019 19:57:51   #
Highlander66
 
MR Mister wrote:
Every year, many thousands of American parents find that the son or daughter they sent to college has been transformed by college into a leftist. For left-wing parents, this may be a blessing, but for parents who are not leftist—not to mention conservative—it is often painfully jolting.

It is jolting because their beloved child now holds America in contempt; prefers socialism to capitalism; regards all white people and police as racist; believes the Bible, Christianity, and Judaism are not only nonsense but dangerous nonsense; no longer believes men and women are inherently different—or even that male and female objectively exist; is disinterested in getting married and having children; believes the president of the United States is a fascist—as are all those who voted for him, and supports the suppression of speech that he or she regards as “hate speech.”

While this is music to the ears of left-wing parents, most traditionally liberal parents will not be all that happy with this transformation.

Unlike leftists, most liberals do love America and think that, despite its flaws, it is worthy of respect. They do not believe male and female are subjective categories, and they believe in free speech—even for “hate speech.”

For conservative parents, the transformation is far worse. “Nightmare” is not too strong a description. Not only does their child hold everything they cherish in contempt, their child, who loved and respected them a year or two before, now holds them in contempt.

It is a nightmare for another reason: Young people who are transformed into leftists almost always become less kind, less happy, and angrier.

It’s hard to imagine the opposite could occur—that is, that a young person could buy into all the left-wing views described above and become a sweeter human being.

It is a sad rule of life that whatever the left touches, it ruins; music, art, literature, religion, late-night TV, the Academy Awards, sports, economics, the family structure, the Boy Scouts, and race relations are just a few examples. It also ruins people—their character and their happiness.

How could it not?

One of the prerequisites of good character—as well as of happiness—is gratitude, and leftism is rooted in ingratitude. If you are grateful to be an American, you are, by definition, not a leftist.

If you are, for example, a black who is grateful to be an American, you are a “traitor to your race,” an “Uncle Tom.”

If you are a woman who is grateful to be an American, you are a “traitor to your gender.” Feminist icon Gloria Steinem once called female Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison a “female impersonator” because a real woman cannot be a conservative.

In addition, the left drills into every nonwhite and every woman the idea that they are victims, and people who see themselves as victims are ungrateful and angry, two traits that always make a person meaner.

Every parent whose child came home from college (or, increasingly, high school) a leftist should be asked: “Is your daughter or son happier as a result of becoming a leftist? Is he or she kinder? More tolerant? More respectful?”

So it is not only institutions that the left ruins, but also the character of its adherents.

Where are the prominent conservative equivalents of Robert De Niro shouting “F— Trump” at awards ceremonies?

Of Sarah Silverman tweeting to the president of the United States: “I’m just gonna go with F— YOU, and also add that you are a smelly penis hole with balls that touch the water. Eat s—, you greedy t—“?

Of Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., telling supporters, among whom were children, “We’re gonna impeach the motherf—er”?

Every American should watch how a group of 10-year-old girls recently treated 85-year-old California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. Being indoctrinated into leftism apparently permitted them to treat a U.S. senator, not to mention a woman 75 years older than them, with contempt.

It is inconceivable that a group of 10-year-old conservative kids, accompanied by their teachers, would ever treat an 85-year-old, senator or not, so condescendingly.

When you send your child to college, you are not only playing Russian roulette with their values. You are playing Russian roulette with their character and the way they will treat you.

Left-wing parents do not have a similar worry. If their child somehow returns home from college a Christian or a religious Jew, not only will they not be treated with contempt, they will probably be treated with even more respect than before.

Leftism makes you worse. Judeo-Christian religions make you better. That might not be a fashionable view, but it just happens to be true.
Every year, many thousands of American parents fin... (show quote)


I’m sadly a member of this group. My daughter went to college and is now one of the classic snowflake leftist socialist idiots. I love her completely as my daughter and not only accepted her when she came out to me as lesbian but told her I wasn’t surprised and had known for awhile but didn’t think it was that big of deal. What I don’t like is her telling me what she thinks that I believe based on what she is told that old straight white guys are like. She won’t have a conversation about virtually anything and is depressed and angry most of the time. She has started going to therapy for her depression which is good. I gues part of my problem is that she hates capitalism and the patriarchy and straight white males, but doesn’t have a problem with the fact that my brother, her uncle who is a conservative straight white male that makes a lot of money via capitalism has funded her college for her to the tune of $60k and her old fashioned straight conservative grandparents bought her a nice car when the one I gave her a few years ago finally quit and she has got nothing but encouragement and support from her sister and I but screw us because of reasons. I get “I hate everything you stand for, but by the way can you send me this stuff I need for this anime convention I’m attending in Omaha?” I love her but I miss my daughter.

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Mar 16, 2019 08:14:37   #
MR Mister (a regular here)
 
Kevyn wrote:
In simple terms professing to make America great again is the right saying our nation is not good. Progressives love and admire our nation while recognizing past and current wrongs and understanding they can be corrected and our great nation can become better and better.

I too find the insults and profanity that is common these days undesirable. Sadly this has been embraced by none other than the president who refers to other nations as shitholes, legitimate inquiries as bullshit and uses schoolyard insults against his political opponents.

A university education for good reason gives students knowledge beyond the bubble of home. They learn about different cultures, religions and ideas than they knew growing up. Hand wringing right wing parents don’t like it when their kids come home and go to yoga class, read the work of beat authors or have friends of a different race, religion or nationality. The university dosn’t teach people to become gay, if doing its job it teaches them to be kind and decent to others. If your kid comes home from the university and comes out, it isn’t that school made them that way; they were already secretly gay and miserable under your roof.

As far as your question when your daughter comes home from school is she more kind tolerant happier and more respectful as a progressive? The answer is likely mixed. She will be kinder to those different to her that she was raised to dislike and distrust, she will be more tolerant of gay people or people of different religious beliefs and atheists but likely less tolerant of bigots. The same is true with respect. She will have learned the difference between courtesy and respect. Respect is something a person gains through their actions and deeds it is not something that is automatically gained through age or financial accomplishment.

There are plenty of old fools who if they behave decently deserve courtesy but have earned no respect. There are also many people who are “successful” financially but have gotten that way through unethical means they too deserve no respect. As far as being happier, to a certain extent the old adage that ignorance is bliss holds some water. Learning that our environment is being fouled, corporate money controls our elected officals more than our votes and that our president is a criminal and compulsive liar is not happy news. But being aware of these things allows young people to focus on changing them and making our nation even greater, which is exactly what we need.
In simple terms professing to make America great a... (show quote)


Seems to me reading some of your past posts you did use profanity in describing my President!

Aside from that, I have been to many countries in the world living there for months some times, and I can say many are shit holes! So if the truth is not a thing you like, well too bad.

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Mar 18, 2019 09:59:12   #
Floyd Brown
 
Highlander66 wrote:
I’m sadly a member of this group. My daughter went to college and is now one of the classic snowflake leftist socialist idiots. I love her completely as my daughter and not only accepted her when she came out to me as lesbian but told her I wasn’t surprised and had known for awhile but didn’t think it was that big of deal. What I don’t like is her telling me what she thinks that I believe based on what she is told that old straight white guys are like. She won’t have a conversation about virtually anything and is depressed and angry most of the time. She has started going to therapy for her depression which is good. I gues part of my problem is that she hates capitalism and the patriarchy and straight white males, but doesn’t have a problem with the fact that my brother, her uncle who is a conservative straight white male that makes a lot of money via capitalism has funded her college for her to the tune of $60k and her old fashioned straight conservative grandparents bought her a nice car when the one I gave her a few years ago finally quit and she has got nothing but encouragement and support from her sister and I but screw us because of reasons. I get “I hate everything you stand for, but by the way can you send me this stuff I need for this anime convention I’m attending in Omaha?” I love her but I miss my daughter.
I’m sadly a member of this group. My daughter went... (show quote)


Did you ever stop for a moment to thing that you might be getting the wrong message of what is truly going on in the world around you?

That just maybe others may have insight on issues that could be better than yours.
In her dealings she seems to see that while she has been treat very well she sees others not having had the advantages she has had?
As an old white male I have seen racism through out my life time.
As that old white male I have come to the conclusion that I need to take a stand on bring fairness for others.

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Mar 18, 2019 11:08:55   #
MR Mister (a regular here)
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Did you ever stop for a moment to thing that you might be getting the wrong message of what is truly going on in the world around you?

That just maybe others may have insight on issues that could be better than yours.
In her dealings she seems to see that while she has been treat very well she sees others not having had the advantages she has had?
As an old white male I have seen racism through out my life time.
As that old white male I have come to the conclusion that I need to take a stand on bring fairness for others.
Did you ever stop for a moment to thing that you m... (show quote)



Did you really read his post?

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