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Mar 12, 2019 15:56:23   #
tactful (a regular here)
 
greetings,in the interest of sharing and caring,if folks have a slow or jammed up computer it is recommended to use the link below to download a lite cleaner that will improve any machines performance.
it is a manual ,please do use the RUN when prompted. do this now and again to keep junk out.
It puts an icon on screen you need to open to run once in awhile ,after RUN ... You'll see what I mean.
https://www.ccleaner.com/
AND it's FREE.

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Mar 12, 2019 16:26:17   #
CarryOn (a regular here)
 
tactful wrote:
greetings,in the interest of sharing and caring,if folks have a slow or jammed up computer it is recommended to use the link below to download a lite cleaner that will improve any machines performance.
it is a manual ,please do use the RUN when prompted. do this now and again to keep junk out.
It puts an icon on screen you need to open to run once in awhile ,after RUN ... You'll see what I mean.
https://www.ccleaner.com/
AND it's FREE.


I second that … I've used CCleaner for a long time. Works well.

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Mar 12, 2019 18:28:45   #
slatten49 (a regular here)
 
CarryOn wrote:
I second that … I've used CCleaner for a long time. Works well.

As I've also used it, I'll third the use of CCleaner.

Again, thanks, Tactful

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Mar 12, 2019 22:26:28   #
tactful (a regular here)
 
slatten49 wrote:
As I've also used it, I'll third the use of CCleaner.

Again, thanks, Tactful


sharing good things that work come natural to me.

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Mar 13, 2019 01:24:31   #
Common_Sense_Matters (a regular here)
 
tactful wrote:
greetings,in the interest of sharing and caring,if folks have a slow or jammed up computer it is recommended to use the link below to download a lite cleaner that will improve any machines performance.
it is a manual ,please do use the RUN when prompted. do this now and again to keep junk out.
It puts an icon on screen you need to open to run once in awhile ,after RUN ... You'll see what I mean.
https://www.ccleaner.com/
AND it's FREE.


I personally have never used the program though I had heard of it, couldn't recall what I may have heard about it so I decided to check it out.


Wikipedia wrote:
Security issues
Trojan in distributed program
After Piriform was acquired by Avast, in September 2017 CCleaner v5.33 (32-bit Windows) was compromised by the incorporation into the distributed program of the Floxif trojan malware that could install a backdoor, enabling remote access to 2.27 million[26] infected machines.[27][28] Forty of the infected machines received a second-stage payload that appears to have targeted technology companies Samsung, Sony, Asus, Intel, VMWare, O2, Singtel, Gauselmann, Dyn, Chunghwa and Fujitsu.[29][30] On 13 September, Piriform released CCleaner 5.34 and CCleaner Cloud 1.07.3191, without the malicious code.[31] On July 24, 2018, the US National Counterintelligence and Security Center (NCSC) released a report titled "Foreign Economic Espionage in Cyberspace" in which it reported a link between China and the Floxif backdoor used to target US companies.[30]

Data harvesting
Ccleaner v5.45 introduced "features aimed at providing [Piriform] with better aggregated, anonymous usage data that we can use to spot trends to improve our software, fix bugs more quickly and deliver a better user experience", adding "CCleaner does not report any personally identifiable information".[32] After criticism[33] later versions allowed reporting of anonymous usage data to be controlled separately by the user.[34]

Installing bundled software without user permission
In December 2018, it was reported that users installing CCleaner would also have Avast antivirus installed without their permission, with TechSpot claiming this arguably made CCleaner no better than the malware it was supposed to defend against, but this was denied by CCleaner staff.[35] On the 20th of January users on social media website Reddit posted screenshots that illustrated the issue had not been resolved, contrary to claims by CCleaner staff.[36]
Security issues br Trojan in distributed program b... (show quote)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCleaner



Edit: Posted only as FYI.

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Mar 13, 2019 11:32:40   #
tactful (a regular here)
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCleaner



Edit: Posted only as FYI.


Very interesting observations.
With that said I've never heard of a machine that got more than was asked for from pinform.the program author. ( where i get all programs from, when possible). I knew it was avast related.
Nor has any technician met
or worked with had anything bad to say about it. Being anti junk and security minded it can do little else except improve a machines mechanics so cc remains on machines along with a list of other productive programs. I get alerts from IT experts that keep me updated on a number of issues.
Bottom line: it stays put.
The adage if it ain't broke don't fix it comes to mind.
It does work. Thanks for the insight I'll be questioning a few contacts. But until then it stays.
I have not heard anything about it yielding what the info relayed suggests.

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Mar 13, 2019 16:48:55   #
Common_Sense_Matters (a regular here)
 
tactful wrote:
Very interesting observations.
With that said I've never heard of a machine that got more than was asked for from pinform.the program author. ( where i get all programs from, when possible). I knew it was avast related.
Nor has any technician met
or worked with had anything bad to say about it. Being anti junk and security minded it can do little else except improve a machines mechanics so cc remains on machines along with a list of other productive programs. I get alerts from IT experts that keep me updated on a number of issues.
Bottom line: it stays put.
The adage if it ain't broke don't fix it comes to mind.
It does work. Thanks for the insight I'll be questioning a few contacts. But until then it stays.
I have not heard anything about it yielding what the info relayed suggests.
Very interesting observations. br With that s... (show quote)


Piriform was sold to Avast, it was since that sale that the concerns have been rising. If you still have the Piriform version, keep it. If you don't have the Piriform version, install at own risk.

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Mar 14, 2019 00:15:52   #
tactful (a regular here)
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Piriform was sold to Avast, it was since that sale that the concerns have been rising. If you still have the Piriform version, keep it. If you don't have the Piriform version, install at own risk.


Look, I ran links through a sandbox on a forum for a forum as moderator,if any didnt pass or didn't sanitize it didn't reach the Forum, add to that the video + audio uplink. I think I have a tad better idea of how things work. sorry CSM we differ here.
1. the same link given to slatten was in fact sandboxed.in short it is the same link sent him.
2. let me run this link of yours by the Major Geek Forum I belong to for kicks,if anything as suggested could or would happen it takes place instantly not after program install.if it has not done damage the last decade + or so it's not going to. MGF is a good one,worldwide in fact.

I use it among others discussed on the MGF ... if there was a problem slats and company would be aware Now not later, it's not how things work in a digital environment.it IS safe.
You'll be the only at risk one.im about to give up.sharing apparently doesn't work here,why should caring be exempted? one cannot even attempt good it seems.it won't happen again sorry;need of wet rag is present. ☹️
oh and Pinform and avast are just fine,if they pass worldwide it works for me.
My once government AV changed hands too only changes for the better noticed.

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Mar 14, 2019 00:48:49   #
Common_Sense_Matters (a regular here)
 
tactful wrote:
Look, I ran links through a sandbox on a forum for a forum as moderator,if any didnt pass or didn't sanitize it didn't reach the Forum, add to that the video + audio uplink. I think I have a tad better idea of how things work. sorry CSM we differ here.
1. the same link given to slatten was in fact sandboxed.in short it is the same link the sent him.
2. let me run this link of yours by the Major Geek Forum I belong to for kicks,if anything as suggested could or would happen it takes place instantly not after program install.if it has not done damage the last decade + or so it's not going to. MGF is a good one,worldwide in fact.

I use it among others discussed on the MGF ... if there was a problem slats and company would be aware Now not later, it's not how things work in a digital environment.it IS safe.
You'll be the only at risk one.im about to give up.sharing apparently doesn't work here,why should caring be exempted? one cannot even attempt good it seems.it won't happen again sorry;need of wet rag is present. ☹️
oh and Pinform and avast are just fine,if they pass worldwide it works for me.
Look, I ran links through a sandbox on a forum for... (show quote)


I don't know why you are taking offense, I am only passing along a warning, and for your information, I am not at much risk. Linux has very good security, I have added security software installed and I am aware of where the dangers are most prevalent on the internet.

When I first began using the internet, I ran Windows, I ran NO anti-virus, NO anti-malware, NO anti-spyware and I typically only had an issue with any of those when I deliberately contracted one in order to find it, study it and be able to instruct others how to rid themselves of it.

Since that point, things have changed, dangers increased, difficulty in finding, disabling and eliminating these forms of malware has gotten more difficult, I started resorting to protections to protect myself, I still rely on these protections though I need them far less running Linux. In fact, I typically use my Linux machines to "venture" into the danger zones on the internet to retrieve that which resides at places that others running windows should not "venture".

While it is possible for one to find a chink in the armor of ANY OS, rarely do any try with Linux, partially due to Linux's security, partially due to the fact that Windows being used by the majority, they can inflict much more harm with much less effort. Why target such a secure OS with limited users when there is a much easier target with far more users.

I meant no offense in offering the warning, I only wanted to make people aware of what I had found, If you took offense, I apologize, but it is only your safety and the safety of others I was concerned over.





Edit: Here is proof straight from Avast of what I said, https://blog.avast.com/update-to-the-ccleaner-5.33.6162-security-incident. If you do not wish to believe me, fine, I would suggest believing them though.

Edit #2: This also https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/avast-clarifies-details-surrounding-ccleaner-malware-incident/, this is where I found the above link. It also gives further information regarding fixing the issue.

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Mar 14, 2019 01:21:07   #
tactful (a regular here)
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
I don't know why you are taking offense, I am only passing along a warning, and for your information, I am not at much risk. Linux has very good security, I have added security software installed and I am aware of where the dangers are most prevalent on the internet.

When I first began using the internet, I ran Windows, I ran NO anti-virus, NO anti-malware, NO anti-spyware and I typically only had an issue with any of those when I deliberately contracted one in order to find it, study it and be able to instruct others how to rid themselves of it.

Since that point, things have changed, dangers increased, difficulty in finding, disabling and eliminating these forms of malware has gotten more difficult, I started resorting to protections to protect myself, I still rely on these protections though I need them far less running Linux. In fact, I typically use my Linux machines to "venture" into the danger zones on the internet to retrieve that which resides at places that others running windows should not "venture".

While it is possible for one to find a chink in the armor of ANY OS, rarely do any try with Linux, partially due to Linux's security, partially due to the fact that Windows being used by the majority, they can inflict much more harm with much less effort. Why target such a secure OS with limited users when there is a much easier target with far more users.

I meant no offense in offering the warning, I only wanted to make people aware of what I had found, If you took offense, I apologize, but it is only your safety and the safety of others I was concerned over.
I don't know why you are taking offense, I am only... (show quote)


No offense taken or apology needed.I've heard nothing but good about Linux,you are the first user on here met. I get what you're driving at .. codes like locks are made to be broken but like many out there as mentioned all have armour chinks although as relayed Linux,Apple and others have less interest to the deep or dark web.
Windows on the other hand is tried to be avoided even though these programs are geared toward them.
I remember cutting my teeth on a Commodore 64,getting into the mechanics and mindset of it was challenging( no I.E. back then).being I.E. is like Swiss cheese information via link could be food for thought.
I too use a Windows machines occasionally for other purposes but as mentioned they have had cc a long long time and link provided is clean. I applaud your diligence in warning 👋🏻👋🏻 it was worth the read like links
no need to bother the MGF - late anyway.
gnight

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Mar 14, 2019 01:37:46   #
Common_Sense_Matters (a regular here)
 
tactful wrote:
No offense taken or apology needed.I've heard nothing but good about Linux,you are the first user on here met. I get what you're driving at .. codes like locks are made to be broken but like many out there as mentioned all have armour chinks although as relayed Linux,Apple and others have less interest to the deep or dark web.
Windows on the other hand is tried to be avoided even though these programs are geared toward them.
I remember cutting my teeth on a Commodore 64,getting into the mechanics and mindset of it was challenging( no I.E. back then).being I.E. is like Swiss cheese information via link could be food for thought.
I too use a Windows machines occasionally for other purposes but as mentioned they have had cc a long long time and link provided is clean. I applaud your diligence in warning 👋🏻👋🏻 it was worth the read like links
no need to bother the MGF - late anyway.
gnight
No offense taken or apology needed.I've heard noth... (show quote)


Good night.

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Mar 14, 2019 07:13:36   #
Rose42 (a regular here)
 
tactful wrote:
No offense taken or apology needed.I've heard nothing but good about Linux,you are the first user on here met. I get what you're driving at .. codes like locks are made to be broken but like many out there as mentioned all have armour chinks although as relayed Linux,Apple and others have less interest to the deep or dark web.
Windows on the other hand is tried to be avoided even though these programs are geared toward them.
I remember cutting my teeth on a Commodore 64,getting into the mechanics and mindset of it was challenging( no I.E. back then).being I.E. is like Swiss cheese information via link could be food for thought.
I too use a Windows machines occasionally for other purposes but as mentioned they have had cc a long long time and link provided is clean. I applaud your diligence in warning 👋🏻👋🏻 it was worth the read like links
no need to bother the MGF - late anyway.
gnight
No offense taken or apology needed.I've heard noth... (show quote)


Another thumbs up for Linux from me. I was using it in the days of the 5 1/4 inch floppy disks. It wasn’t for the faint of heart. Lol. It has really come a long way and is easy for beginners to use too.

Remember the old hard drives? I has a 30mb one encased in iron and the heads had to be parked before shutting down. Its amazing how far technology has advanced and we take it for granted.

Sorry I got off track.

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Mar 14, 2019 11:34:59   #
tactful (a regular here)
 
Rose42 wrote:
Another thumbs up for Linux from me. I was using it in the days of the 5 1/4 inch floppy disks. It wasn’t for the faint of heart. Lol. It has really come a long way and is easy for beginners to use too.

Remember the old hard drives? I has a 30mb one encased in iron and the heads had to be parked before shutting down. Its amazing how far technology has advanced and we take it for granted.

Sorry I got off track.
Another thumbs up for Linux from me. I was using ... (show quote)


It is not completely off track.
Some years back I tried the new Azure OS.while navigation proved no problem. Limitations did, not to mention program and many software application issues. When found so much lost during a lab reformat, thanks to macrium reflect backup files,folders and photos were retrieved ,point being linux
Has yet to not impress end users meantime for the majority
IE seems an only option for most. It is interesting how tech talk goes down varying roads.
Fact is the tech topic alone has a few forums dedicated to it.
Bottom line: original post link is safe and valid.
Appreciate the input Rose.

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